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Posted by Magnetonium on Oct-23-2003 04:23:

Red face Obsession with the past [music]

I had this thread idea that has been bugging me for a while now, and I decided that I can no longer keep it to myself. I have been a long-time electronica music fan, since about the age of 5 in the 80s, and I have been strongly influenced by the dance and house music of the mid-late90s. Examples:

Nalin & Kane - Beachball
Lustral - Everytime
Sex-O-Sonique - Thought It Was You
CJ Bolland - Sugar Is Sweeter (Armand's Mix)
Daddy's Favourite - I Feel Good Things For You
M1 - Electronic Funk
Billie Ray Martin - Your Loving Arms
Snap - Rhythm Is A Dancer
Dr. Alban - Let The Beat Go On
Captain Hollywood - More and More
Camisra - lET mE sHOW yOU

Honestly, I often dream, sadden about going back and reliving the 1994-1998 music era. I feel guilty I missed up on a lot of stuff during that era, as I was too younf for clubs, and too stupid to listen to great suggestions by people who listened to good dance music. I wish I can start over. I sometimes think I'd rather have that classic dance/house scene today with new tracks more than trance. Is this just a home-sick feeling? The memories just come back ... .... the past 5 years have been so cruel for me ....


Posted by biznology on Oct-23-2003 04:47:

Umm the reason you think it was so great was simply BECAUSE you couldnt involve yourself. It wasnt that cool- esp when you think Rhythm is a Dancer was something you 'missed out' on.

Its always hindsight 20/20.


Posted by Magnetonium on Oct-23-2003 04:54:

Arrow Let me rephrase that ///

Well, I didnt REALLY miss out on it. I heard those and many other tracks on the radio, saw videos on TV, it was the music that caused my rebirth into dance music, as around 1991 I stopped listening to music. I guess its the great memories associated with that music. And dont just concentrate on that one song, Rhythm Is A Dancer, I must agree its not the brightest example and I know several TAs who hate it, but like other classic dance. It's just ...

I cant lose that music, it got me to the music that I listen to today ... It's kinda like losing your best friends after you move and experience that psychological loss, and the music becomes the memories .... DOES THAT MAKE MORE SENSE?


Posted by biznology on Oct-23-2003 05:00:

Re: Let me rephrase that ///

quote:
Originally posted by Magnetonium
Well, I didnt REALLY miss out on it. I heard those and many other tracks on the radio, saw videos on TV, it was the music that caused my rebirth into dance music, as around 1991 I stopped listening to music. I guess its the great memories associated with that music. And dont just concentrate on that one song, Rhythm Is A Dancer, I must agree its not the brightest example and I know several TAs who hate it, but like other classic dance. It's just ...

I cant lose that music, it got me to the music that I listen to today ... It's kinda like losing your best friends after you move and experience that psychological loss, and the music becomes the memories .... DOES THAT MAKE MORE SENSE?



nah it always made sense...but you shouldnt worry about missing old music. esp old dance music...

it always seems better when its over. just try to enjoy whatever it is you do now. i know that whenever i get bored with trance there is some other form of electronic/rock/hip hop music that reinvigorates me|


Posted by Magnetonium on Oct-23-2003 05:09:

Unhappy Ugh ......

I guess you were never into dance music then. Just because music evolves doesn't mean we have to pack the previous genre and put it into the trash. I got nothing against trance, but dance music back then was very popular. I can't imagine why people today would diss it so much. I go to Premier Fitness all the time, and they play my CDs all the time, I play lots of genres, but the most they love the classic dance and house in the early-mid 90s. I cant explain much to you, but I guess you don't feel the same way. I dont even want to know how you would react to retro and disco ... its just so sad .... ..... that people just don't give that classic dance music the respect that it deserves.


Posted by caddyshack on Oct-23-2003 06:10:

i'd kill myself if pvd was playing rhythm is a dancer, it's a good thing not many ppl share your opinion imo


Posted by Magnetonium on Oct-23-2003 16:48:

Red face LOL, wait a minute ....

quote:
Originally posted by caddyshack
i'd kill myself if pvd was playing rhythm is a dancer, it's a good thing not many ppl share your opinion imo

HELL, I'D HATE THAT TOO ... I meant that if there were other producers/DJs that played today the dance music that very much resembled the dance music in the mid-90s ... I am not asking for the return of disco or retro, but its just sucks that one day you get into a dance music genre, and then a few years later it gets absorbed into the new genre. Do you know what I mean? I lived through several generations of dance music, even though I am 19.

I would be more than happy if PVD continued to play what he's playing today, and I hope he won't put any classic dance/house tunes in his rotation, cause that would be bad because that's not his style ... doesn't fit the pattern.


Posted by biznology on Oct-23-2003 17:25:

while its interesting to note that you are only 19...the reason health club people like that music is that they are older ladies that dont know anything about current dance music.

and im not saying that all music from that era was crap...but some of the tunes you listed are just pop cheese songs, and good dance music doesnt have to cater to the lowest common denominator|


Posted by fitom tiel on Oct-23-2003 17:38:

i like the clarification in the subject

[music]



obsession with the past can be damaging


Posted by trancer1999 on Oct-23-2003 18:39:

housework - warmth

thats the an old tune they just dont make like that anymore


Posted by diffusion on Oct-23-2003 20:37:

You almost seem depressed. Why?

If you miss the past so much, just start blasting the early/mid-90s dance on your stereo and feel the rythm. Because, I WILL ATTACK AND YOU DON'T WANT THAT!

.... anyways there's a lot of people like you, and they're called the kinky EBM people. They're still stuck in the 80's and they'll never leave. Probably for the more industrial versions, but they'll never leave from their mighty 80's.

Move on dude, let the past be the past and look ahead.

You can still listen to La Bouche and RIAD in the future, but don't let the past hold you back.


Posted by Magnetonium on Oct-24-2003 01:05:

Unhappy Well, when I am sad, I tune to classics ....

I am an active TA, and I listen to trance on a regular basis. Once in a while, however, I love to switch to some older stuff, sometimes disco, sometimes retro, techno, goa etc. but more often to 90s dance and house.

Ya, I guess that does make me look like those old people who are stuck in their youth ... I am not really stuck, but whenever I feel bad, not in the mood, I tune in to the classics and they bring back the good memories. I guess the last few years have been hell for me. AND IT AIN'T GETTING BETTER AS I AM GETTING CALLED UP TO THE ARMY IN JANUARY '04, REGULAR FORCES, FOR 3 YEARS!!!!!


Posted by Christopher B on Oct-24-2003 01:50:

I know what you mean, I still love all these old tracks that if I heard now I would consider cheesy, such as:

Real McCoy - Run Away
Aqua - Barbie Girl, Candy man
ATB - Don't Stop
Robert Miles - Children
Aha - Take on Me (Techno Remix)

and even older still:

Michael Jackson - Thriller, Beat it,
Duran Duran - Hungry Like the Wolf
Aha - Take On Me
Mr. Mister - Broken Wings


I know what you mean about the old era, I remember when all those tunes came out, it seemed like a magical time. but then again, it's probably just your regular nostalgia, since I was like 10-12 when Artists like Real McCoy were big.


Posted by biznology on Oct-24-2003 02:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Christopher B
...


I know what you mean about the old era, I remember when all those tunes came out, it seemed like a magical time. but then again, it's probably just your regular nostalgia, since I was like 10-12 when Artists like Real McCoy were big.


shit i thot that getting that Marky Mark tape was 'magical' when i was 10, but that doesnt mean it wasnt shit|


Posted by Magnetonium on Oct-24-2003 03:27:

Ugh, the classix

quote:
Originally posted by Christopher B
Real McCoy - Run Away
Robert Miles - Children
Duran Duran - Hungry Like the Wolf
Aha - Take On Me


Ahhh, those lovely classix. . I remember when I was like 6 listening to very expensive western music tapes in Soviet Union with such tracks as:

Bananarama - Venus
ABBA - Money
Anita Ward - Ring My Bell
The Trammps - Disco Inferno
Stacey Q - Two Of Hearts
Art Of Noise - Moments In Love
Depeche Mode - Policy Of Truth; Enjoy The Silence + 1000s more ....

AND I WAS DESTINED TO BE A DANCE (whatever the genres) MUSIC FAN!


Posted by Christopher B on Oct-24-2003 03:40:

yeah well, those tunes I've listed may be shit, but they still hold a special place in my heart when i listen to them. Whenever I hear em it brings me back to good times in my life.


Posted by Taz on Oct-24-2003 04:21:

Umm, I think it's important to point out that you can't have your childhood/teenhood back no matter who's making what kind of music. Another generation is getting its "growing-up with" music now.

That being said, I love listening to old tunes simply because they're so different from what you hear now. They came from a whole different social and political climate. And the intended ends, available means, and scarcity paradigms were different too.


Posted by dyret on Oct-24-2003 18:31:

Just give up!

There is no hope, you should start doing drugs! That might offer a solution!


Posted by Magnetonium on Oct-26-2003 02:54:

Lots of different views out there on this ....

I do live the world of today. I listen to new trance, progressive, and so on, and like it a lot. Just because I mentioned that the older electronica music turns me inside out emotionally, doesn't mean that I only stick to the past. After all, I have to go on. But the music is one thing that I can reflect on, remember the mood, the feeling, even sometimes the smell (depending on location) of some of the great memories I had back in time.


Posted by Dmatrox on Oct-26-2003 02:56:

I really like the older sets, around 1999, 2000 of trance energy, sensation, dance department and innercity. The ones by tiesto, ferry, armin are classic and have fantastic uplifting trance that really makes me smile


Posted by Magnetonium on Oct-26-2003 03:05:

Satan (eek!) Lovely .......

quote:
Originally posted by Dmatrox
I really like the older sets, around 1999, 2000 of trance energy, sensation, dance department and innercity. The ones by tiesto, ferry, armin are classic and have fantastic uplifting trance that really makes me smile

... I share the same passion .... ... trance came into full force back then I love classic trance . Surely beats out some (NOT ALL, LOL) of the boring trance livesets I hear today (with except to the ones I attend in person )

I dont want to start a riot here, so I will be respectfull, and add that I love all trance, but when comparing classic trance to new, later trance I make this distinction.
CLASSIC TRANCE = ALL OF IT IS VERY GOOD
LATER, NEW TRANCE = A LOT OF IT IS GOOD/VERY GOOD.



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