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Posted by Renegade on Oct-23-2003 20:06:

Bush in Australia / Cunning Linguists

I'm not sure how many of you were aware, but Bush has been in Australia for the past 24 hours and earlier this afternoon gave a speech in front of our federal parliament. There was nothing in the speech we hadn't heard before (you can read the full speech here) and the only excitement came when two Greens senators began heckling Bush mid-speech. Bob Brown (the leader of the Greens) was the first, apparently criticising Bush's commitment to the Iraqi people (listen here) the second was Kerry Nettle, apparently criticising a proposed free-trade agreement between the two nations (listen here), essentially Australia's "reward" for committing troops to Iraq. Later on, Bob Brown shook George Bush's hand outside parliament while Kerry Nettle attempted to hand some documents to Bush (which I think had something to do with an Australian unlawfully held at Guantanamo Bay) which he refused to accept.

But that's not really what I want to talk about. I was going to start a topic about "Republican linguistics" a few days ago, but decided to hold off until I heard Bush's speech to parliament. I'm glad I did, because it merely reinforced what I already realised: that the Republican Party, by unceasingly referring to grand, general, idealistic humanitarian principles in speeches and liasons with the media, have been able to continually hoodwink citizens of their own nation and of the globe into believing that the party, in some significant way, hold a commitment to them. The principles I refer to are, primarily, freedom, liberty (similary concept to freedom but pertaining more to human rights) and democracy.

This policy works for several reasons:

Firstly, to paraphrase a famous quote from a top-ranking Nazi official, "if you repeat a lie often enough, people will begin to believe it". That is, by saturating speeches with references to the party's commitment to freedom, liberty and democracy, the hope is that, eventually, people will begin to believe - almost subconciously - that the administration does hold a stead-fast commitment to these concepts. To define what I mean by "saturation" we need only look at the speech gave in parliament today:

He used the words "democracy" or "self-government" a total of 9 times.
He used the words "liberty" or "liberation" a total of 5 times.
He used the words "free" or "freedom" a total of 21 times.

So that's 35 words - nearly 2% of his entire speech - referring directly to the principles he wants so dearly to be acknowledged to uphold. Literally every 50th word in this speech was effectively some derivative of the words "free", "liberty" or "democracy": who could fail to be won over by such propagandistic repetition?

Secondly, purely by repetitiously referring to these principles, the administration has been able to instate itself - in the eyes of many (including their own) - as the sole, global defender of these principles. By effectively referring to them more than any other political body, not only are they seen as being more "committed" to them than any other body, but the terms are slowly beginning to be recognised and acknowledged to be defined by many only on the Republican's terms. The concept of democracy becomes their definition of democracy, the concept of liberty becomes their definition of liberty and the concept of freedom becomes their definition of freedom. Because their semantical hold on these principles is so monopolistic globally, anyone who attempts to use these principles in any other way can easily be derided as being, in actual fact, against them in some way (see the part on dichotemisation). To use an example, somehow democracy, freedom and liberty have semantically, under this administration, become intertwined with the quite separate tennets of societal-individualism and free-market capitalism. To be free and democratic, all of a sudden, a nation must reject the possibility that the needs of the society, as a collective whole, are equal to those of any given individual and that they must be able to sell their capitial to foreigners whenever they want? When did freedom and democracy ever necessitate those conditions? Why are people who reject these stipulations all of a sudden being labelled undemocratic or anti-freedom? Why are we hearing about the imminent arrival of laissez-faire capitalism in Iraq as though it's a necessary stage of Iraq's liberation and democratisation and why is no-one batting an eyelid when these sorts of concepts are subliminally linked in such a manner? Because the Republicans are in power and because we've allowed them to hijack the definitions of these words, that's why.

The subtle, semantical redefinition of these principles is similar to the redefinition of patriotism and the linking of Iraq to terrorism in the build-up to the Iraq war. All of a sudden, after September 11, patriotism meant standing there waving a flag, knowing that the president should not be criticised and accepting that, whatever happens to you or the society around you, the president is doing it all in the name of "good" (and "democracy" and "liberty" and....). Whatever happened to the definition of patriotism and democracy envisaged by the founding fathers, which explicitly includes the committed involvement of the citizenry in the system of checks and balances - which necessarily includes criticism of the government? How did the US public allow their patriotism - traditionally one of their greatest strengths as a people - to be degenerated under the current administration into a such a debased, perverse weakness? And it's exactly the same with the Iraq/terrorism link: put the words "Iraq" and "terrorism" (or, say, "patriotism" and "close your eyes and take directions") in the same sentence often enough, and eventually - once again almost subliminally - the public will begin to associate them as if they were ever in any way related. Why is it - even after the flimsy evidence linking Iraq to al-Qaida and other terrorist groups has been shown to be false or fraudulent - we allow Bush, Howard or Blair to continue to link the two concepts in speeches with virtually no danger of reproach? Why is it that, invariably, when a news-reader presents a story on Iraq, the caption "War on Terror: Update" continues to sit above his right shoulder? Because we've been hoodwinked, that's why: we've allowed the administrations in the US, the UK and Australia to set the agenda and, purely from their incessant repetition of key-words, have allowed them engage in debates using their definitions of these key-words and subtly intertwine otherwise unrelated concepts to the extent that we have come to associate such concepts as inextricably related when they are - even upon shallow analysis - demonstrably not.

Perhaps it's just because I'm re-reading 1984 at the moment, but I see something distinctly Orwellian in all this. What else but doublethink could explain why we recognise - based on the availble evidence (or complete lack of?) - that the issues of Iraq and terrorism are unrelated, but still allow politicians to implicitly and explicitly link the two without so much as blinking an eyelid? How can we applaud Bush's commitment to "democracy" and "liberty" in full consciousness of his involvement in the Florida debacle, the Patriot Act, or Camp X-Ray? When Bush responded to the protests of senator Nettle with the quip "I love free-speech!" why was it that my own politicians applauded him - as though he was in any way sincere in this remark - when they knew full-well that protests (set up in similarly Orwellian sounding "Free-Speech Areas") were forcibly pushed back far, far away from parliament house and the US Embassy, and that - for the first time ever in 102 years of Australian Federation - Parliament House was closed to the Australian public, purely upon the insistance of Bush's own secret service? Once again it's because we've allowed these "grand, general, idealistic humanitarian principles" to be hijacked by these people and allowed them to serve them up on their own terms, using their own, twisted definitions. We've been blinded by their grandiose language to the extent that we can no longer recognise their deeds.

Returning to the "I love free-speech" comment though, I will make my next point: that by having these buzz-words near at hand, the Bush administration can deflect criticism and make a dash for their psuedo-principled "high-ground" any time criticism is directed at their policies. By responding to Senator Nettle's vitriol with a vague comment like "I love free-speech" Bush achieves two things:

1) Even though he has made no attempt whatsoever to respond to the criticisms, he has been able to deflect them.
2) He has been able to take the higher-ground - to "stand upon a semantical soap-box" if you like.

Now although Senator Nettle was in many ways stupid to afford him the opportunity to take the high-ground like this, it doesn't mean we should let him stay perched there. Besides, there is a case history of the current US administration deflecting criticism in this way: namely, by deferring to the general principles they speciously wrap themselves in, every time they are posed with a question they have no ready answer for.

In a similar vain, for instance, when Laurie Oakes (an Australian political analyst) interviewed George Bush recently (incidently the only media contact he was allowed during his brief visit) he explained to the President the sorts of protests many Labor MPs were likely carry-out during his address (i.e. refusing to clap, wearing white arm-bands etc.) in response to US policy. To this, Bush could only reply "It means that democracy's alive and well" before launching into an unrelated spiel about the braveness of Australian troops in Iraq. By replying with merely "It means that democracy's alive and well" instead of, say, defending the policies that were being protested against in the first place, Bush is simultaneously able to defuse the criticisms directed at him and suggest, patronizingly, that these protests contain no more significance than as having a largely incidental role in a much greater democratic process - a process, incidently, he sees himself as the primary fighter for. When anti-American, Shiite protests began to emerge in Southern Iraq, the response was similar. Rather than acknowledge the root causes of this anti-Americanism, address how they may be resolved or address the implications they may have on the future stability in Iraq, Bush merely said:

"Freedom is beautiful and when people are free they express their opinions. They couldn't express their opinions before we came, now they can. I always said [that establishing] democracy is going to be hard. It's not easy to go from being enslaved to being free. But it's going to happen because the basic instinct of mankind is to be free.... So sure, there are people who express their opinions, and we welcome that."

(See here.)

Once again: criticism deflected, Bush exhaulted (as the cheif proponent of these "beautiful" principles) and the actions of the Iraqi people patronized as being little more than incidental to a far greater, psuedo-metaphysical cause spear-headed (or so they'd like to think) by the Bush administration. The criticisms and complaints made by the Iraqis go completely unheeded, when surely the "acknowledgement" of free-opinions is every bit as important as the speech itself (what good is free-speech if, having been ignored by the relevent parties, it cannot possibly make any difference to the society around you?). Any questions about the uncertainty of the future of Iraq or of the undesirable living-conditions that exist there now, are often responded to in a similar way, with the flexible, all purpose" "but they're 'free' now".

Once again, the question must be raised: how can we allow this administration to completely deflect criticism just by putting a few words either side of the terms "freedom", "liberty" or "democracy" and allow them to take the high-ground on these principles (as though they are the only ones interested in protecting them) again, again and again? Why is no-one taking them to task whenever such a meaningless, cop-out answer is provided?

Next on the list of linguistic tactics (though it is more "logical" in nature than "linguistic") is the rampant use of "Dichotomisation", present both in the administration's ideology (including speeches) and policy. No example of this dichotomisation is more famous than Bush's "you're either with us or you're with the terrorists line". By systematically erecting arteficial dichotomies such as this, the administration is immediately able to set the moral agenda, establish themselves as the sole authority of this moral agenda and allow the general public to wallow in the sentiment that, given this dichotemic frame-work, those who disagree with the administration must disagree with the general principles the Republicans claim to be steeped in. It may sound like a rather extreme idea - that the establishment (or propogation) of a dichotemic mentality could snow-ball into the idea that disagreeing with one area of Republican thought means that you are against the Republican Party in general and, by extension, everything they stand for - but one need only look at the bitter sentiment popularly disseminated against the French as an example of what this simplistic, dichotemic mode of thinking can "slippery-slope" into.

When France rejected the war resolution offerred by the US, it wasn't merely an issue of policy disagreement, it became - for many people - an affront to the Republican party, the people of the US and - more broadly - the principles possessed by both. The "with us or against us" mentality had been driven in so deep that, should a nation such as France have the temerity to block a single US policy, it quite simply - via this dichotemic "logical" extension - became perceived as a direct indication that they were "against" the US in general. And this is the danger of such dichotemisation: debate becomes impossible, as you are cast into an all or nothing situation (that is, you either agree with everything we say, or you don't). Opposition to the Bush administration needs to go to great lengths to undo this mode of thinking, by pointing out, for instance, that one can oppose the current administration - or even the widely held ideals of the nation as a whole - and still consider themselves a full-blooded patriot. Similarly, one must point out that in most policy decisions there is no simplistic "black-or-white" scenarios, but rather wide expanses of grey, which can only be made more clear by constructive, pertinent debate.

Anyway, my reasons for writing all this are quite simple: basically, for all the claims of "stupidity" or "ignorance" levelled at the Republican administration (and Bush more specifically) they are all, for the most part, cunning linguists, astute orators and quite well drilled in how to verbally manipulate a population. They have a number of identifiable tricks up their sleeves and these represent just a few.

The Bush administration stands upon the legitimacy of their moralizations. By making these moralisations transparent, and by bringing them down to a level upon which debate on policy merit can be rendered possible, the platform on which the administration stands becomes all the more shaky. Perhaps once this platform is removed, they will be forced to actually debate policy, and the beneficial or detrimental implications of such policy, rather than being allowed to stand on their soap-box, preaching abstract ideals where - for the most part - they have done far more to destroy them than propogate them. If it is possible to expose these subtle, yet highly-influential tactics for what they really are - namely abstract ideologies that they have done little in the way of policy to preserve - then exposing the Republicans as the charlatans they really are becomes a possibility, and removing them from power in 2004 almost certain.

Thoughts?

(Note: I'm going to clean this up a bit - there's a lot I want to add and a few bits I want to remove - and present it as a "proper" article at some point. Input would be appreciated.

)

Posted by St_Andrew on Oct-23-2003 20:49:

Very interesting article

I have to say i agree with almost everything you said.

Seems like you have put a lot of effort in it, are you going to publish it somewhere?

Posted by Arbiter on Oct-23-2003 21:09:

The use of language by politicians is a very interesting subject. When I have more time later, I'll be sure to give this a thorough read.

Posted by Izzy on Oct-23-2003 21:44:

Re: Bush in Australia / Cunning Linguists

quote:
Originally posted by Renegade
I'm not sure how many of you were aware, but Bush has been in Australia for the past 24 hours and earlier this afternoon gave a speech in front of our federal parliament. There was nothing in the speech we hadn't heard before (you can read the full speech here) and the only excitement came when two Greens senators began heckling Bush mid-speech. Bob Brown (the leader of the Greens) was the first, apparently criticising Bush's commitment to the Iraqi people (listen here) the second was Kerry Nettle, apparently criticising a proposed free-trade agreement between the two nations (listen here), essentially Australia's "reward" for committing troops to Iraq. Later on, Bob Brown shook George Bush's hand outside parliament while Kerry Nettle attempted to hand some documents to Bush (which I think had something to do with an Australian unlawfully held at Guantanamo Bay) which he refused to accept.

haha, those were funny audio clips, you guys seem to have a sharp and fast acting speaker of the house.
"senator Brown will excuse himself from the house"
"the sgt. will remove senator Brown from the house"
LOL

quote:

To define what I mean by "saturation" we need only look at the speech gave in parliament today:

He used the words "democracy" or "self-government" a total of 9 times.

He used the words "liberty" or "liberation" a total of 5 times.

He used the words "free" or "freedom" a total of 21 times.

So that's 35 words - nearly 2% of his entire speech - referring directly to the principles he wants so dearly to be acknowledged to uphold. Literally every 50th word in this speech was effectively some derivative of the words "free", "liberty" or "democracy": who could fail to be won over by such propagandistic repetition?

although i have noticed this myself too, this particular case might be a bad example... wasn't free used everytime he said free trade?

quote:

Secondly, purely by repetitiously referring to these principles, the administration has been able to instate itself - in the eyes of many (including their own) - as the sole, global defender of these principles. By effectively referring to them more than any other political body, not only are they seen as being more "committed" to them than any other body, but the terms are slowly beginning to be recognised and acknowledged to be defined by many only on the Republican's terms. The concept of democracy becomes their definition of democracy, the concept of liberty becomes their definition of liberty and the concept of freedom becomes their definition of freedom. Because their semantical hold on these principles is so monopolistic globally, anyone who attempts to use these principles in any other way can easily be derided as being, in actual fact, against them in some way (see the part on dichotemisation). To use an example, somehow democracy, freedom and liberty have semantically, under this administration, become intertwined with the quite separate tennets of societal-individualism and free-market capitalism. To be free and democratic, all of a sudden, a nation must reject the possibility that the needs of the society, as a collective whole, are equal to those of any given individual and that they must be able to sell their capitial to foreigners whenever they want? When did freedom and democracy ever necessitate those conditions? Why are people who reject these stipulations all of a sudden being labelled undemocratic or anti-freedom? Why are we hearing about the imminent arrival of laissez-faire capitalism in Iraq as though it's a necessary stage of Iraq's liberation and democratisation and why is no-one batting an eyelid when these sorts of concepts are subliminally linked in such a manner? Because the Republicans are in power and because we've allowed them to hijack the definitions of these words, that's why.

well of course its semantics, every party in power will implement their version of something. I'm sure the semantics for "good economy" are different from dems to reps, like wise liberty and freedom. i dont see anything wrong with that, it's not like they are defining "freedom" as slavery. Everyone has an agenda they push and each have their own vision or definition about how to implement a topic/policy. What's left is not for the people to figure out that they've been lied too (which they havent), they are left to decided whether they like the reps version of freedom over the dems, and that desicion will be made in the elections. I guess what i'm saying is that i dont really see your point, or i dont see anything wrong in the points you are making

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The subtle, semantical redefinition of these principles is similar to the redefinition of patriotism and the linking of Iraq to terrorism in the build-up to the Iraq war. All of a sudden, after September 11, patriotism meant standing there waving a flag, knowing that the president should not be criticised and accepting that, whatever happens to you or the society around you, the president is doing it all in the name of "good" (and "democracy" and "liberty" and....). Whatever happened to the definition of patriotism and democracy envisaged by the founding fathers, which explicitly includes the committed involvement of the citizenry in the system of checks and balances - which necessarily includes criticism of the government? How did the US public allow their patriotism - traditionally one of their greatest strengths as a people - to be degenerated under the current administration into a such a debased, perverse weakness? And it's exactly the same with the Iraq/terrorism link: put the words "Iraq" and "terrorism" (or, say, "patriotism" and "close your eyes and take directions") in the same sentence often enough, and eventually - once again almost subliminally - the public will begin to associate them as if they were ever in any way related. Why is it - even after the flimsy evidence linking Iraq to al-Qaida and other terrorist groups has been shown to be false or fraudulent - we allow Bush, Howard or Blair to continue to link the two concepts in speeches with virtually no danger of reproach? Why is it that, invariably, when a news-reader presents a story on Iraq, the caption "War on Terror: Update" continues to sit above his right shoulder? Because we've been hoodwinked, that's why: we've allowed the administrations in the US, the UK and Australia to set the agenda and, purely from their incessant repetition of key-words, have allowed them engage in debates using their definitions of these key-words and subtly intertwine otherwise unrelated concepts to the extent that we have come to associate such concepts as inextricably related when they are - even upon shallow analysis - demonstrably not.

Whoa there buddy, are you seriously going to argue that Iraq did not have a terrorist regime? what about the hoards of innocent civilians iraqi's that were jailed, tortured and massacred? what about the funding to hamas? what about the scubs launched at civilian sites in the first gulf war? maybe you mean to say that Iraq posed no direct threat to the US or that they had no ties to al-qaeda, but to say that using the word terrorists to define the authority of Iraq is a lie, that's flat out wrong

and about the patriotism thing, you really cant blame bush for that, that was a result of the american public rather then the government. Bush never said it was unpatriotic to support his views.

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and that - for the first time ever in 102 years of Australian Federation - Parliament House was closed to the Australian public, purely upon the insistance of Bush's own secret service?

that's dumb (on the Secret Service's part), i would have supported the australians on this one, it's their soverign right to keep it public or not.

quote:

Anyway, my reasons for writing all this are quite simple: basically, for all the claims of "stupidity" or "ignorance" levelled at the Republican administration (and Bush more specifically) they are all, for the most part, cunning linguists, astute orators and quite well drilled in how to verbally manipulate a population. They have a number of identifiable tricks up their sleeves and these represent just a few.

The Bush administration stands upon the legitimacy of their moralizations. By making these moralisations transparent, and by bringing them down to a level upon which debate on policy merit can be rendered possible, the platform on which the administration stands becomes all the more shaky. Perhaps once this platform is removed, they will be forced to actually debate policy, and the beneficial or detrimental implications of such policy, rather than being allowed to stand on their soap-box, preaching abstract ideals where - for the most part - they have done far more to destroy them than propogate them. If it is possible to expose these subtle, yet highly-influential tactics for what they really are - namely abstract ideologies that they have done little in the way of policy to preserve - then exposing the Republicans as the charlatans they really are becomes a possibility, and removing them from power in 2004 almost certain.

ah, now i see your point (i hope). Yes i agree the republicans are cunning linguists who refer to their higher morals and ideals often, however i dont see this as being decitful or wrong, it is simply their agenda, either you agree with it or you dont.

quote:

Thoughts?

(Note: I'm going to clean this up a bit - there's a lot I want to add and a few bits I want to remove - and present it as a "proper" article at some point. Input would be appreciated. )

well written, good luck

Posted by MrSquirrel on Oct-23-2003 22:31:

Freedom, Democracy, and Liberty are the three words he can say without bungling them thus why he always uses them

On a more serious note, you are right about a lot of the Orwellian nature of this administrations policies and practices. I noticed this a long time ago.

One thing abotu the free-trade agreement thing. It was being pushed for by both Bush and Howard long before the Iraq war. When Howard was in Washington in Sept 2001 it was one of the top topics on both of their agendas. (I was very interested in Australian news and US-Australia relations at the time because I was planning on moving down there around that time). I think if you do back research on that you will see that a US-Australian free trade agreement has been a desire of both sides for a long time and considering it a "gift" for involvement in Iraq is off-kilter. I would assume that there is large sums of Military aid similar to that given to Israel and Egypt (grants and loans to buy US built military equipment such as F-18s and the ANZAC class frigates).

MrS

Posted by Yoepus on Oct-23-2003 22:33:

dud next time don't hold off - your post only get longer and longer... give me a week or two, and I'll get back to you

Posted by ProDiGaL on Oct-24-2003 03:48:

renegade it the most intelligent person in here,
I just finished 1984 last night, and it scared me how close we are getting to there....

Posted by occrider on Oct-24-2003 04:10:

quote:
Originally posted by ProDiGaL
renegade it the most intelligent person in here,
I just finished 1984 last night, and it scared me how close we are getting to there....

We're nowhere near there ... don't be one of those over-melodramatic tin foil hat hippies

Posted by MrSquirrel on Oct-24-2003 04:13:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
We're nowhere near there ... don't be one of those over-melodramatic tin foil hat hippies

Methinks occrider is Big Brother. Seeing as he has disabled the "show my online status" option and appears to post out of nowhere

EDIT: Tricky Dick Cheney here edited his post after I quoted him....very Orwellian Ministry of Truth

Clinton could sell a fur coat to the mink he took the pelt from. Bush couldn't sell a super-size fry upgrade at McDonald's
/EDIT

MrS

Posted by ProDiGaL on Oct-24-2003 04:23:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
We're nowhere near there ... don't be one of those over-melodramatic tin foil hat hippies

Bush is a poor speaker under fire ... he reverts back to the simplistic one two punch of the same 10 word vocabulary when confronted with an issue he lacks the ability to address. Trust me ... if this were Clinton THEN you would see some masterful oratory skills.

to the ministry of love with you!!!!

Posted by occrider on Oct-24-2003 04:31:

quote:
Originally posted by ProDiGaL
to the ministry of love with you!!!!

HIPPIES!!!

[runs away, tail tucked between my legs]

Posted by occrider on Oct-24-2003 04:34:

quote:
Originally posted by MrSquirrel
Methinks occrider is Big Brother. Seeing as he has disabled the "show my online status" option and appears to post out of nowhere

EDIT: Tricky Dick Cheney here edited his post after I quoted him....very Orwellian Ministry of Truth

Clinton could sell a fur coat to the mink he took the pelt from. Bush couldn't sell a super-size fry upgrade at McDonald's
/EDIT

MrS

Why ... goodness gracious me, whatever edit are you talking about? And I can be seen plain as day! Look ... online as usual.

Posted by MrSquirrel on Oct-24-2003 04:38:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Why ... goodness gracious me, whatever edit are you talking about? And I can be seen plain as day! Look ... online as usual.

Hmm....must be hallucinating again. Too bad going to Branson tomorrow is not a hallucination

MrS

Posted by occrider on Oct-24-2003 04:40:

quote:
Originally posted by MrSquirrel
Hmm....must be hallucinating again. Too bad going to Branson tomorrow is not a hallucination

MrS

Well ... just this once I'll allow an exception of involuntary euthanasia and put you out of your misery

Edit: and in light of squirrel's following post, i discontinue the thread-jacking as well ... damn terrorists

Posted by MrSquirrel on Oct-24-2003 04:43:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Well ... just this once I'll allow an exception of involuntary euthanasia and put you out of your misery

Oh please will you?

MrS

P.S. sorry to have hijacked your thread Renegade It was such a good topic too. I did see that the two Greens got banned from chambers for Hu Jintao's speech today hehe.

Posted by Yoepus on Oct-24-2003 07:26:

wow, I finally read about 80% of your post Renegade.

All I can say is that it is refreshing to see someone basically say "Damn that Bush and his fancy use of language and retort!!" for a change

Does this mean Bush is more intelligent then we thought?

Posted by MrSquirrel on Oct-24-2003 11:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
Does this mean Bush is more intelligent then we thought?

No.

Karl Rove still writes and dictates about 90% of what the president says.

MrS

Posted by LiquidX on Oct-24-2003 13:24:

- I thought Bush's words were
"Lets not forget 9/11"
"The economy is strong"
"We will fight for freedom"
"we will fight terrorism"
" I love America"

Posted by Yoepus on Oct-24-2003 15:28:

quote:
Originally posted by LiquidX
- I thought Bush's words were
"Lets not forget 9/11"
"The economy is strong"
"We will fight for freedom"
"we will fight terrorism"
" I love America"

what about God bless?

hehe this thread has way to much hijacking

Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-24-2003 15:49:

quote:
Originally posted by MrSquirrel
No.

Karl Rove still writes and dictates about 90% of what the president says.

MrS

They must have recently given Bush the presidential version of 'Hooked on Phonics' because he's actually using and correctly pronouncing words with more than 2 syllables.

Renegade, great post! A terrific synopsis if you ask me!