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Posted by DJ Thanatos on Oct-24-2003 22:27:

Need Technical Help Quick!!

ok, so im all to record my mixtape for the club im trying to get a job in...and for some reason im getting a delay between my monitors and my headphones and its screwing up all my mixes...they are at the right bpm, but never aligned with one another...

heres the setup- VMX-300 tape out to line in on my laptop, using cool edit pro to record. im running the headphone out on my laptop to my reciever to get monitor sound...

im baffled as i haven't had this problem until i hooked up my laptop today..

any advice???

thanatos

Posted by Dj Flesch on Oct-24-2003 22:36:

the delay is most likely caused because you are going through the sound card on your computer before you can get to your speakers, whereas the headphones are connected directly to your mixer. Connect your mixer directly to your reciever and the delay should be gone.

Posted by DJ Thanatos on Oct-24-2003 23:45:

still no go...there is still some delay...arg...um...any other suggestions??

Posted by SgtFoo on Oct-25-2003 02:15:

ok, the only reason there might be delay now, is that you're really not beatmatching b/c you might have to bass so high that you muffle the bass kiks and meld them with the bassline.... i did that once.

I got the same mixer, and run a line from the tape out to my computer's line in. I get no delay when recording (using either sound forge, cooledit or acid).

Check to see if your amplifier is processing any sound before it send to the monitors. If there's processing going on, you won't get immediate sound out of the monitors. When i say processing, i mean ANY kind of EQing, surround fx, preset speaker fx, etc.

If you're still getting delay, you might not have enough power in your amp to push your monitors quick enough. Try turning up the amp volume level and turning down your main mixer volume level to compensate.

Posted by SgtFoo on Oct-25-2003 02:21:

Re: Need Technical Help Quick!!

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Originally posted by DJ Thanatos
im running the headphone out on my laptop to my reciever to get monitor sound...

wait!.... why are you doing this??? your headphones should be plugged into your mixer. Your mixer main out should be directly plugged to your amp. your mixer tape should be plugged directly to your computer line in. besides, your laptop shouldn't be used as an amp, it has no way enough power to push monitor speakers!!! get an amp/receiver of some sort to push those speakers!!!

your should be using the laptop for ONLY recording, not running signal thru for anything else, b/c the soundcard will give you delay and fuck you up the ass.

I'm gonna be honest with you.... if you can't troubleshoot this kind of simple setting-up, then you should wait a bit longer and learn alot more before you go get a gig.... you'd be wasting ppl's time otherwise...... no offense here, just giving you the truth.

Posted by DJ Thanatos on Oct-25-2003 02:37:

the headphone piece was a typo, i had meant to say the tape out...

thanatos

Posted by dartman on Oct-25-2003 07:36:

Re: Re: Need Technical Help Quick!!

quote:
Originally posted by SgtFoo
I'm gonna be honest with you.... if you can't troubleshoot this kind of simple setting-up, then you should wait a bit longer and learn alot more before you go get a gig.... you'd be wasting ppl's time otherwise...... no offense here, just giving you the truth.

not to be a dick, but i agree with Captain Foo on this one

Posted by TranceInMySoul on Oct-25-2003 11:32:

I'm confused - have you, or have you not got your headphones plugged into your mixer???

If you've got the headphones running from the mixer you could just turn the monitors down/off and mix in the headphones.

I've mixed in some clubs with very poor (and even broken) monitoring and you have to work against the delay you get between the headphone signal and the main sound system. In these situations you have to live with it, you have to be good enough to adjust your timing to work. It can be difficult, requires more concentration, but it is possible.