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Posted by 'mju:zik on Oct-27-2003 21:15:

If you believe they put a man on the moon...

any conspiracy ppl out there? how much proof exists that they actually landed?


Posted by joeh on Oct-27-2003 21:16:

I was there, I saw it all.

it happened


Posted by jdat on Oct-27-2003 21:17:

it's supposedly fake


Posted by 'mju:zik on Oct-27-2003 21:20:

they saved A LOT of money if it was fake


Posted by Unknown DJ on Oct-27-2003 21:21:

i think ti was faked. i read that the area just outside the earths atmosphere is so radioactive, if anyone crossed it in a ship or not, they would die of cancer soon after. also i saw a pic of area 51 taken from a passing plane, and u can see a moon area in the top corner. but then again, them pics wer probably fake as well


Posted by electric_soul on Oct-27-2003 21:21:

well, if they didn't, they convinced everyone back then.

so it doesn't matter if they did or didn't anymore.


Posted by Streakfury on Oct-27-2003 21:28:

Well, I dont want to seem like I'm jumping on the bandwagon here, but I think it was all a set-up too. After watching some of the programmes that explain these theories, some of them are quite convincing. I hope it was real, and that man really did walk on the moon, and I certainly dont want to disrespect the guys who put their lives on the line to do it, but I look back at the technology that was available back then and I wonder how on earth they managed it.

I wouldnt go into space even now, because it's too dangerous, so how they managed to run a space mission with (what are now) 30 year old computers etc i'll never know. Makes you wonder why they haven't been back. I mean, it's not like we know everything we can know about the universe just from a couple of trips to the moon and back.


Posted by igottaknow on Oct-27-2003 21:33:

Re: Did the US really go to the moon?

quote:
Originally posted by 'mju:zik
any conspiracy ppl out there? how much proof exists that they actually landed?


I totally agree 100% with you!


Posted by 'mju:zik on Oct-27-2003 21:35:

just seems to me that they would fail a few times before succeding. u kno? just a little too perfect. and the motive is clear, outdo the soviets at any price. even if it means lying to the public.


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Oct-27-2003 21:37:

If it was fake then there is not a chance in hell it wouldn't have been exposed by the Russians at the time. This topic is old a boring because all facts that have been brought up to show it was a hoax have all been disproven. There are already many threads on this, so I can't be arsed to go into detail.


Posted by DaveSZ on Oct-27-2003 21:38:

"The Chinese sent their first man into space recently...

He left a menu under the door of the Int. Space Station then went home."

-Jay Leno


LOL Recently I visited the McDonald Observatory (Davis Mountains) where they used a laser beam in one of their telescopes to conduct research on the shifting of the Earth's continents. They bounced the laser off reflectors left by apollo astronauts and then measured how long it took for the light to bounce back. With this meathod they have also accurately measured the distance from the Earth to the moon. Read Cosmos by Carl Sagan for further info.

There had to be at least one moon landing for there to be reflectors on the moon.


Posted by Streakfury on Oct-27-2003 21:38:

Fanatics Point Of View

Enjoy!


Posted by Boomer187 on Oct-27-2003 21:40:

Its funny that a lot of the people that believe aliens crashed here also believe we are incapable of going to the moon. Seems kinda odd that aliens could...eh....fudge it.

I still think they actually went there. A lot of the proof it was fake stems from photographs and it seems that it can be explained by poor technology.....eh time for class, maybe I'll explain later.


Posted by wienerschnitzel on Oct-27-2003 21:48:

i heard alot of convincing conspiracy theories as well.. but i have a hard time believing them. Mostly because we obviously have satilites, which means people have obviously been to space and dicked around there, and there are continually missions to space and so i think that astronauts are learning a great deal OF space, so why is it so unbelievable that they could land on the moon?


Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on Oct-27-2003 21:55:

Amazing how many people think it's fake. Come on, the US is not the only nation in the world, if any of it was fake, all the other countries would have said so, especially the soviet union.


Posted by DaveSZ on Oct-27-2003 22:01:

They just did this to put on a show for those commies right?






Irony's a bitch:

http://www.csr.utexas.edu/mlrs/history.html


quote:
For historical completeness, it should be mentioned that the very first lunar laser ranging observations of the Apollo 11 retroreflector package were made with the 3.1-m telescope at Lick Observatory [Faller et al., 1969]. However, the ranging system at Lick was designed solely for quick acquisition and confirmation, rather than for an extended program. In those very early days, successful lunar laser range measurements were also reported by the Air Force Cambridge Research Laboratories Lunar Ranging Observatory in Arizona [AFCRL, 1969] the Pic du Midi Observatory in France [Calame et al., 1970] and the Tokyo Astronomical Observatory [Kozai, 1972]. Over the past almost 30 years, lunar laser ranging has also been accomplished by stations in Maui, the former Soviet Union, Australia, and Germany. A new lunar capable station is being built by researchers in Italy. However, the only stations to produce these observations in a routine and continuous way are the McDonald station in the United States and the CERGA station in France. A paper describing the early efforts of the CERGA station can be found elsewhere in this volume [Veillet et al., 1993].




Posted by djSlain on Oct-27-2003 22:03:

the government would never lie to a US citizen


Posted by Streakfury on Oct-27-2003 22:07:

quote:
Originally posted by djSlain
the government would never lie to a US citizen


Bwahahahahahaaaahaaaaa!! I'm glad you trust them, not many others do, hehe.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Oct-27-2003 22:13:

If it is fake, which I doubt, then this would be, by far, the most embarrassing and pathetic moment in human history as far as I know.


Posted by Trancention on Oct-27-2003 22:15:

quote:
also i saw a pic of area 51 taken from a passing plane, and u can see a moon area in the top corner


Testing for new age moon landing equipment? They gotta do it somewhere don't they? As for us never going back to the moon, why would we need to go back? It was just to say that we have put a man on the moon, plus it is dangerous (obviously) and now we just use robots to gather any data and samples we need from the moon.


Posted by St_Andrew on Oct-27-2003 22:19:

quote:
Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
Amazing how many people think it's fake. Come on, the US is not the only nation in the world, if any of it was fake, all the other countries would have said so, especially the soviet union.


exactly my opinion!


Posted by whiskers on Oct-27-2003 22:27:

http://www.southparkstudios.com/dow...10/SOSTUPID.wav


Posted by Lumps on Oct-27-2003 22:47:

Southpark is gayyyy.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

This site also debunks the conspiricy.


Posted by Massive84 on Oct-27-2003 22:54:

quote:
Originally posted by djSlain
the government would never lie to a US citizen


yea and pigs fly ..


Posted by Streakfury on Oct-28-2003 01:54:

Strangely, I believe the whole "aliens at Area 51" thing. Just coz humans cant get outta the solar system, that doesn't mean it's impossible for any other intelligent being in the universe. Just because some people dont believe we went to the moon, that doesn't automatically imply that aliens dont exist, so i'm willing to bet that they do.


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