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If you believe they put a man on the moon...
any conspiracy ppl out there? how much proof exists that they actually landed?

I was there, I saw it all.
it happened 
it's supposedly fake

they saved A LOT of money if it was fake
i think ti was faked. i read that the area just outside the earths atmosphere is so radioactive, if anyone crossed it in a ship or not, they would die of cancer soon after. also i saw a pic of area 51 taken from a passing plane, and u can see a moon area in the top corner. but then again, them pics wer probably fake as well 
well, if they didn't, they convinced everyone back then.
so it doesn't matter if they did or didn't anymore.
Well, I dont want to seem like I'm jumping on the bandwagon here, but I think it was all a set-up too. After watching some of the programmes that explain these theories, some of them are quite convincing. I hope it was real, and that man really did walk on the moon, and I certainly dont want to disrespect the guys who put their lives on the line to do it, but I look back at the technology that was available back then and I wonder how on earth they managed it.
I wouldnt go into space even now, because it's too dangerous, so how they managed to run a space mission with (what are now) 30 year old computers etc i'll never know. Makes you wonder why they haven't been back. I mean, it's not like we know everything we can know about the universe just from a couple of trips to the moon and back.

Re: Did the US really go to the moon?
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| Originally posted by 'mju:zik any conspiracy ppl out there? how much proof exists that they actually landed? |
just seems to me that they would fail a few times before succeding. u kno? just a little too perfect. and the motive is clear, outdo the soviets at any price. even if it means lying to the public.
If it was fake then there is not a chance in hell it wouldn't have been exposed by the Russians at the time. This topic is old a boring because all facts that have been brought up to show it was a hoax have all been disproven. There are already many threads on this, so I can't be arsed to go into detail.
"The Chinese sent their first man into space recently...
He left a menu under the door of the Int. Space Station then went home."
-Jay Leno
LOL Recently I visited the McDonald Observatory (Davis Mountains) where they used a laser beam in one of their telescopes to conduct research on the shifting of the Earth's continents. They bounced the laser off reflectors left by apollo astronauts and then measured how long it took for the light to bounce back. With this meathod they have also accurately measured the distance from the Earth to the moon. Read Cosmos by Carl Sagan for further info.
There had to be at least one moon landing for there to be reflectors on the moon.
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Its funny that a lot of the people that believe aliens crashed here also believe we are incapable of going to the moon. Seems kinda odd that aliens could...eh....fudge it.
I still think they actually went there. A lot of the proof it was fake stems from photographs and it seems that it can be explained by poor technology.....eh time for class, maybe I'll explain later.
i heard alot of convincing conspiracy theories as well.. but i have a hard time believing them. Mostly because we obviously have satilites, which means people have obviously been to space and dicked around there, and there are continually missions to space and so i think that astronauts are learning a great deal OF space, so why is it so unbelievable that they could land on the moon?
Amazing how many people think it's fake. Come on, the US is not the only nation in the world, if any of it was fake, all the other countries would have said so, especially the soviet union.
They just did this to put on a show for those commies right?


Irony's a bitch:
http://www.csr.utexas.edu/mlrs/history.html
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| For historical completeness, it should be mentioned that the very first lunar laser ranging observations of the Apollo 11 retroreflector package were made with the 3.1-m telescope at Lick Observatory [Faller et al., 1969]. However, the ranging system at Lick was designed solely for quick acquisition and confirmation, rather than for an extended program. In those very early days, successful lunar laser range measurements were also reported by the Air Force Cambridge Research Laboratories Lunar Ranging Observatory in Arizona [AFCRL, 1969] the Pic du Midi Observatory in France [Calame et al., 1970] and the Tokyo Astronomical Observatory [Kozai, 1972]. Over the past almost 30 years, lunar laser ranging has also been accomplished by stations in Maui, the former Soviet Union, Australia, and Germany. A new lunar capable station is being built by researchers in Italy. However, the only stations to produce these observations in a routine and continuous way are the McDonald station in the United States and the CERGA station in France. A paper describing the early efforts of the CERGA station can be found elsewhere in this volume [Veillet et al., 1993]. |
the government would never lie to a US citizen
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| Originally posted by djSlain the government would never lie to a US citizen |
If it is fake, which I doubt, then this would be, by far, the most embarrassing and pathetic moment in human history as far as I know.
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| also i saw a pic of area 51 taken from a passing plane, and u can see a moon area in the top corner |
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| Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Amazing how many people think it's fake. Come on, the US is not the only nation in the world, if any of it was fake, all the other countries would have said so, especially the soviet union. |
http://www.southparkstudios.com/dow...10/SOSTUPID.wav
Southpark is gayyyy.
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html
This site also debunks the conspiricy.
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| Originally posted by djSlain the government would never lie to a US citizen |
Strangely, I believe the whole "aliens at Area 51" thing. Just coz humans cant get outta the solar system, that doesn't mean it's impossible for any other intelligent being in the universe. Just because some people dont believe we went to the moon, that doesn't automatically imply that aliens dont exist, so i'm willing to bet that they do.

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