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Posted by flashman on Oct-28-2003 10:12:

Create o good clap sound?

Hi

really amazing forum here.
sorry for my broken englisch.

my question is:

how to make a really good clap, which sounds good to my kicks and drums?
every clap i used is really shit in combination with my track.
please help me and thank you for any advises!

cu

flashman

Posted by hey cheggy on Oct-28-2003 12:51:

How I make my claps is to take a standard clap sound, from a 909, 808, reason, what ever.

Then, give it some reverb so it has a tail.
Then, use the amp attack filter to cut out the beginning of the clap. This will take away alot of the clapping sound and just leave the middle and end.
Then put it in conjunction with your second and fourth kick. It should sound good.

Posted by iLLicit on Oct-28-2003 16:11:

I guess if you want good claps you really have to have good samples. Just search the internet, there's a lot to be found on it.
You can also check out sample cd's.
Or just do what I always do: look for tracks with claps that are separate, so that you can sample it. I have found a lot of good, usable claps in r&b/hiphop songs, for example justin timberlake or something. You can get pretty amazing results after processing these samples!

Posted by Sean Walsh on Oct-28-2003 16:29:

Yeah, one good way is to bite from other shit. Hell, even Solarstone and Scott Bond admitted to doing the exact same thing in their forums; there's nothing either wrong or illegal about it.

If you have cool edit, you can get some amazing claps by taking your generic 909 fodder and throwing it through an Echo Chamber.

Posted by cole-hawk on Oct-28-2003 19:50:

it isnt legal to cut from other traxx..
but if you modify it a little bit, nobody could hear, that it is cutted from another track.

or you buy sample cds

Posted by iLLicit on Oct-28-2003 20:15:

quote:
Originally posted by cole-hawk
it isnt legal to cut from other traxx..

Well, that isn't exactly right. You can sample other types of music, as long as those samples aren't whole melodies or something similar. But you can sample percussion sounds...

Posted by Floorfiller on Oct-28-2003 20:53:

quote:
Originally posted by iLLicit
Well, that isn't exactly right. You can sample other types of music, as long as those samples aren't whole melodies or something similar. But you can sample percussion sounds...

yeah there is nothing wrong with sampling a SOUND out of a track. unless that sound is crucial to the track. and even so an artist isn't gonna care enough to take legal action...

Posted by moog_baby on Oct-29-2003 12:21:

actually you are NOT allowed to sample any sound at all of a copyrighted track, though in practice of course people do. still breaks copyright though..

Posted by dj-rob on Oct-29-2003 14:32:

Im kinda weird, what I do is get 3 clap samples, 2 the same one different.. with the 2 the same, make the root notes higher so the default note is a lower pitch.. not too low just subtle.. so u will have a layer of, c5 pitch, and then 2 lower ones.. kinda confusing but i got bored on day and did it and has more depth... then as everyones saying reverb it up, not too much but enough to give it that hard edge sound. also i make the bass freq up alot with the 7band in fl... like 63hz goes up im weird i just do that.

basically start with a good sample, and use effects and layers of more claps to give it that sound.

Thats my 2 cents.

Posted by iLLicit on Oct-29-2003 17:55:

quote:
Originally posted by dj-rob
Im kinda weird, what I do is get 3 clap samples, 2 the same one different.. with the 2 the same, make the root notes higher so the default note is a lower pitch.. not too low just subtle.. so u will have a layer of, c5 pitch, and then 2 lower ones.. kinda confusing but i got bored on day and did it and has more depth... then as everyones saying reverb it up, not too much but enough to give it that hard edge sound. also i make the bass freq up alot with the 7band in fl... like 63hz goes up im weird i just do that.

basically start with a good sample, and use effects and layers of more claps to give it that sound.

Thats my 2 cents.

Ok, that's a nice idea of layering those claps. Never thought about it actually.
But why would you increase the low-band eq settings? Adding a boost in 63 hZ only diminishes your room for bassed and sub-basses. And you are definitely going to need the extra room in there!
So I would suggest not to boost, but to cut in the lower regions. I always use low-pass filters on every instrument so that I have as much space available for the basses and subs.