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Posted by digitalbreach on Oct-30-2003 17:36:

car Audio q??

planning on buying 1 woofer for my car. of course looking for hard hitting bass instead of the deep bass. Mainly listen to electronica in my car.
was going for a kicker solo baric but got a good offer for a kicker compVR. Are compVR any good for what I want. are they worth getting??
Also debating on wether to get a 12'' or 10''. pro's cons??

any other suggestions??

Posted by Orbax on Oct-30-2003 17:54:

the larger the cone the slower the hit, 10 or 12 will be able to handle electronica.

12s hit deeper and harder usually. if its same brand just bigger Id go with the 12. Other than that youll just have to test them out at a car audio place, some pull more watts but have a smaller frequency response. Youll need to see what hits deeper harder. Also, what kind of car? The subs are gonna sound different in a hatch than a trunk. do the seats flip down?

Posted by digitalbreach on Oct-31-2003 00:23:

drive a 00' Accord coupe. no, seats don't flip down.
well I had heard 10's were better for trance cuz because they hit harder. and I also don't want my trunk vibrating>>(reason y i'm getting just one)

Posted by igottaknow on Oct-31-2003 02:14:

quote:
Originally posted by digitalbreach
I had heard 10's were better for trance cuz because they hit harder.

i have no idea what u mean by "hit harder".

speaker characteristics ppl look for are:
Loudness (how much power they can handle b4 distorting)
Clarity
Response/Tightness

A number things affect ur sound quality:
speaker quality
good amp
suitable speaker enclosure

Posted by Boomer187 on Oct-31-2003 02:17:

The thing about solos is that they need a lotta wattage to power them. If you don't want too much power try out some MTX stuff. I think 12's sound nice but I like that deep bassy sounds along with some hit capabilities.

so if ya don't want too much excessive noise I would try out something around 400-550 watt MTX 10".

Posted by digitalbreach on Oct-31-2003 05:45:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
i have no idea what u mean by "hit harder".

speaker characteristics ppl look for are:
Loudness (how much power they can handle b4 distorting)
Clarity
Response/Tightness

meant clarity.

I know solo Barics are good cause my homeboy has some in his ride and they sound great. was just wondering if any of you have tried the CompVR line of kicker woofers?? getting the Baric for about $100 and CompVR for $65 both new..

stats for CompVR
Size: 12 inch
Sensitivity: 86.4 dB
Frequency Response: 25-500 Hz
Recommended RMS Power: 400W
Peak Power Handling: 800W

Solo-Baric stats
Size: 12 inch
Sensitivity: 86.9 dB
Frequency Response: 20-100 Hz
Recommended RMS Power: 750W
Peak Power Handling: 1500W
Impedance: Dual 4 ohms

so orbax your saying just to go w/ 12 since I will only be getting one??

Posted by Trancention on Oct-31-2003 07:29:

Make sure whatever you get you put in a bandpass box, it makes the hits clearer.

Posted by dj_mdma on Oct-31-2003 10:31:

quote:
Originally posted by digitalbreach
meant clarity.

I know solo Barics are good cause my homeboy has some in his ride and they sound great. was just wondering if any of you have tried the CompVR line of kicker woofers?? getting the Baric for about $100 and CompVR for $65 both new..

stats for CompVR
Size: 12 inch
Sensitivity: 86.4 dB
Frequency Response: 25-500 Hz
Recommended RMS Power: 400W
Peak Power Handling: 800W

Solo-Baric stats
Size: 12 inch
Sensitivity: 86.9 dB
Frequency Response: 20-100 Hz
Recommended RMS Power: 750W
Peak Power Handling: 1500W
Impedance: Dual 4 ohms

so orbax your saying just to go w/ 12 since I will only be getting one??

don't go for the solo-baric if u want to hear electronica, as the power required to shift the woofer, and its size, will not go well with 140 bpm! If u get the solo baric you will also need a big amp to power it sufficently.

If you just want a bit of "oomph" to your music, as opposed to an SPL killer, one 10" will be sufficient. I'd recommend the Alpine Type R 1041D (300W RMS, 1000w peak, dual 4 ohm voice coils) 10"s are lighter and will react faster to the music so the beat will be reproduced more accurately.

However, if u want bass to hit hard and low, eg in DnB and Hip hop, a 12" or larger will be more satisfiying, as they can move more air.

subs i'd recommend for trance are the Alpine, Sony 10" Pentagon, RF Punch and any JL sub up to W3.

Amps to power them would be Alpine MRD-300 (300W RMS x1), Sony XM2165GTX (400W rms x1, also 2ohm stable)

Posted by digitalbreach on Oct-31-2003 16:32:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_mdma
If you just want a bit of "oomph" to your music, as opposed to an SPL killer, one 10" will be sufficient. I'd recommend the Alpine Type R 1041D (300W RMS, 1000w peak, dual 4 ohm voice coils) 10"s are lighter and will react faster to the music so the beat will be reproduced more accurately.

However, if u want bass to hit hard and low, eg in DnB and Hip hop, a 12" or larger will be more satisfiying, as they can move more air.

subs i'd recommend for trance are the Alpine, Sony 10" Pentagon, RF Punch and any JL sub up to W3.

Amps to power them would be Alpine MRD-300 (300W RMS x1), Sony XM2165GTX (400W rms x1, also 2ohm stable)

that's what I had heard in regards to 10's being better for trance. in regards to reaction time. also needed for my ears only and not my entire block. thanx. will check out your suggestions at sounddomain.com or krutchfield

still does anyone know if these Kicker CompVR are any good???

Posted by dj_mdma on Oct-31-2003 16:53:

the compVR range are Kickers budget range, so they'll do the job, but don't try and push them to the max!

I see you're able to get solo barics for 100 dollars, u wanna send a couple my way

Posted by digitalbreach on Oct-31-2003 16:58:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_mdma
the compVR range are Kickers budget range, so they'll do the job, but don't try and push them to the max!

I see you're able to get solo barics for 100 dollars, u wanna send a couple my way

how bout if I get a 10" solo. still will take a lot to push ..right.
still gonna try to do some smart shopping.

u want some just go ahead and send me the $100 + shipping first

Posted by dj_mdma on Oct-31-2003 17:52:

100 dollars + Shipping for a 10" SOlo Baric (is it an L7 or L5?) either way its all good let me find out how much itwill cost top ship a 20kg speaker seriously though, i will

Its not worth putting the Solo in for yourself, cos you will still need a very good amp to push it the way you want. If you underpower it, it will try and work hard when you crank it up, but you will get a lot of distortion as the sub tries to recreate what its been told to do, but is unable to, as it is insufficiently powered. You will fry its voice coils

Posted by Summer21 on Oct-31-2003 18:15:

I have 2 10's, lemme tell ya trance/house sounds incredible... although I have the bass on the lowest setting 97% of the time...really powerful

Posted by Orbax on Oct-31-2003 18:43:

Kickers are excellent for riced out Hondas listening to rap