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Why do you septic tanks call your national baseball league the 'world series', and call the winners the 'world champions'?

Then again, I could be very wrong, because no one plays or watches baseball down here.

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Originally posted by arctic Why do you septic tanks call your national baseball league the 'world series', and call the winners the 'world champions'? Then again, I could be very wrong, because no one plays or watches baseball down here.

I'm not a big baseball fan but...simple. The second largest leauge in the world is the Japanese league. We've played some exhibition games against various Japanese teams, however when the thought of games to be played between both champions came up, it was very quickly tossed out....why? Simple, the best Japanese players are coming to the US to play baseball....add that up with the best players from the whole world (US, Cuba, Dom Rep, Latin/South America, Canada...etc)...they all play in the US. Thus in actuality...it is a "World Series" and they are "World Champions"

Now with that said, we call all our Sports Leagues World Champions after they win...basketball, american football...etc. But in most aspects it's probably true...money talks...and the best players in the World play for money. Take soccer for instance, the best players (including the few americans) go to where the money is and that's NOT the US. And where the money is...is where generally the overall best teams are.

But still

Ok Japan and Usa has baseball league , that doesnt inclued the whole wide world

Where is the Sweedish , Norway, Finnish, Italian, Spanish, Greek, Dutch,Hungarian, Slovakian, Polish,Australian, New Zelandian,Belgian,Austrian, Danish,Russain, African players? Do they even has professional baseball?

I would understand if you guys would have a World series with teams from every other countries, but still, only American teams are in the World Series.

If there would be a game between, example Florida Marlins vs Tokyo Something , Amsterdam vs London, Budapest vs Prague, Stockholm vs Moscow, Berlin vs Brussel , and Florida would win the whole competition, you could say they are World Champions

Its like , have a Football(soccer) World Cup , and every team would be from Brazil.That would make them World Champions?

Baseball lix ballz... stick to real sports like soccer, hockey, football, basketball

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Originally posted by PhloTron I'm not a big baseball fan but...simple. The second largest leauge in the world is the Japanese league. We've played some exhibition games against various Japanese teams, however when the thought of games to be played between both champions came up, it was very quickly tossed out....why? Simple, the best Japanese players are coming to the US to play baseball....add that up with the best players from the whole world (US, Cuba, Dom Rep, Latin/South America, Canada...etc)...they all play in the US. Thus in actuality...it is a "World Series" and they are "World Champions" Now with that said, we call all our Sports Leagues World Champions after they win...basketball, american football...etc. But in most aspects it's probably true...money talks...and the best players in the World play for money. Take soccer for instance, the best players (including the few americans) go to where the money is and that's NOT the US. And where the money is...is where generally the overall best teams are.

Very well said.!

I was thinking of that

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Originally posted by hardstyle Ok Japan and Usa has baseball league , that doesnt inclued the whole wide world Where is the Sweedish , Norway, Finnish, Italian, Spanish, Greek, Dutch,Hungarian, Slovakian, Polish,Australian, New Zelandian,Belgian,Austrian, Danish,Russain, African players? Do they even has professional baseball? I would understand if you guys would have a World series with teams from every other countries, but still, only American teams are in the World Series. If there would be a game between, example Florida Marlins vs Tokyo Something , Amsterdam vs London, Budapest vs Prague, Stockholm vs Moscow, Berlin vs Brussel , and Florida would win the whole competition, you could say they are World Champions Its like , have a Football(soccer) World Cup , and every team would be from Brazil.That would make them World Champions?

That would actually be great. Though I am not complaining about the current format of the World Series, but whenever the world will pick up on baseball, it will be great if Americans will share the World Series battle with other nations ... the best of the best. Cause just because baseball will be introduced into summer olympics soon doesnt mean there shouldn't be a worldwide interest in this great sport. American domination has kept baseball widely unknown around the world, and thats the problem.

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Originally posted by kypez Baseball lix ballz... stick to real sports like soccer

FOOTBALL!

CHeers for the answer, i'm just curious due to the fact that no one plays baseball down here, it's all rugby, afl and cricket

AFL rocks....I wish they'd play it here

I also am big into rugby, and it's a slowly growing sport here...but will never be big.

And cricket is still a jumping insect in the USA.

Just to point out the Aspects of money...one of your better AFL players (at least one that had a big foot) is now a kicker in the NFL (football). He simply makes more money (lots more) and didn't have to get trampled on since he is the kicker. Don't remember his name but he was playing for San Diego, last I checked.

Sports is all about the $...a good player will go to where that $ is.

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Originally posted by Dj-HordasH FOOTBALL!

lol ya.. but here in calgary everyone calls it soccer.. so ya...

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Originally posted by kypez lol ya.. but here in calgary everyone calls it soccer.. so ya...

Yeah
football > soccer anyway

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Originally posted by PhloTron AFL rocks....I wish they'd play it here I also am big into rugby, and it's a slowly growing sport here...but will never be big. And cricket is still a jumping insect in the USA. Just to point out the Aspects of money...one of your better AFL players (at least one that had a big foot) is now a kicker in the NFL (football). He simply makes more money (lots more) and didn't have to get trampled on since he is the kicker. Don't remember his name but he was playing for San Diego, last I checked. Sports is all about the $...a good player will go to where that $ is.

whoa afl rocks? big call man
only people who used to like it here were victorians,south australians and west australians, who dont really count cause nsw owns them all

im of the opinion that the US could be a force in rugby because of the massive player base that could be tapped (if it ever got popular) and you guys produe some big boys...pity they aint fit and just become blockers that play tit bash with the dude in front of em

in response to PhloTron, the best players in the world are lured to spain, italy and england, but just because they win their national leagues doesnt make them automatic world champions

plain and simple: americans just sit on a very high horse

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Originally posted by OLi_A whoa afl rocks? big call man only people who used to like it here were victorians,south australians and west australians, who dont really count cause nsw owns them all

I'm a victorian, and actually like rugby better. Warped aren't I?

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Originally posted by arctic I'm a victorian, and actually like rugby better. Warped aren't I?

i dont mind the aussie rules, they have to be the fittest players of all football codes
and its amazing how they get attendances of 40,000+ every week...put this to the lack of divirsity vic has in sport. smy rugby team is in the top sydney comp and we get around 200 spectators (and most of em are players). mind you we arent top 3 material, some teams get 600 to turn up (note though that they are all the rich pompus ******s that rugby is renowned for being filled with)

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Originally posted by OLi_A i dont mind the aussie rules, they have to be the fittest players of all football codes

Still, the rugby tackles are better, you don't see people being lifted by three blokes, then being dumped on the ground as hard as possible in AFL. I don't know why i like the thugby better, afl just doesn't do anything for me.

American sports sucks ass. They football leagues are played on converted (american tackle football) fields, and you can see the old lines. You play sports that are in no way world famous.

i have watch baseball games, and they are boring as hell. 3 hours of nothing but sitting there watching players stand around...oh...he hit the ball...its in the outfield!!..player throws ball...OUT!...next batter.....BORING!

Call your baseball championships "American Series", and call yourself "american champions" not world....because that is just cheap way of saying you are world champions when no one cares to play such a boring sport.

one more thing...japan plays baseball because when americans took over japan in 1945, americans was the first culture they had ever seen outside of japan, because of the centuries of isolation...

That's it...let that bottled up agression and anger out...

I agree ..baseball is extremely boring...but I also think soccer is too...those 0-0 battles with 4 shots on goal...sorry...I'd rather watch curling (which is also boring).

Also realize, that about 50% of the players on a given baseball team are not Americans as well as the fact that all the teams are not in America...I know I know...most of you think Canada is the 51st state of the USA, but it really is a different country....Really...it is. So, although I'm not arguing we should call it the "World Series", calling it the "American Series", would be just as detrimental on the opposite spectrum.

Also...yes, the best players are lured to the best leagues not only because they may win championships, but because of the money. Money Money Money Money....Ask any player..."Hey come play for us over here and we'll give you double what you make now"..."and we are good" the answer is easy. Believe me, players wouldn't move away from home...to other countries half way around the world just because they are good if the $$$ wasn't there. Hell it's why I took my job away from where I lived...because of the money & quality of life. So it works in everything not just sports.

Baseball

Also realize, that about 50% of the players on a given baseball team are not Americans as well as the fact that all the teams are not in America..."

Hmmm all the teams are not in America?

So where is California or Cleveland or Boston? Honolulu?

And Canada is on the Continent called North America, and many players are from Mexico and Puerto Ricco at baseball team.

But Puerto Ricco is part of the United States and Mexico is South American country

I never seen a Dutch or German either Brasilian player

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Originally posted by hardstyle Also realize, that about 50% of the players on a given baseball team are not Americans as well as the fact that all the teams are not in America..." Hmmm all the teams are not in America? So where is California or Cleveland or Boston? Honolulu? And Canada is on the Continent called North America, and many players are from Mexico and Puerto Ricco at baseball team. But Puerto Ricco is part of the United States and Mexico is South American country I never seen a Dutch or German either Brasilian player

My appologies for you not understanding my sentence...I guess I'll re-structure it so the kids can understand. Not all 30(ish) MLB teams are based in United States Cities...that being TORONTO AND MONTREAL (for now)...found in the Country of Canada...

Oh and Mexico is part of North America...not South America. It sometimes is considered Central America...but not offically...check.

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.....about 1/5 of Major League Baseball players are from Puerto Rico, the Dominican Republic, and Venezuela..... ....�Baseball in Latin America had its origins in the decade following the turn of the century and Mexico supports a 16 team major league on its Pacific coast. Venezuela, Puerto Rico, and the Dominican Republic have long been known for their winter professional leagues and for the young players they supply to American professional baseball. Venezuela, Puerto Rico, and the Dominican today supply almost one fifth of all major league players. For the past 30 years, Latin America has been a major supplier of talent. It is the rest of the world that has suddenly become a major source of supply. �The nations other than the Latin Big Three have become a dollar-strewn battleground for a small but aggressive number of American organizations and the battle sites have been in Canada, Mexico, Australia, Holland, Brazil, Curacao, Aruba, Panama, Guatemala and battle lines are being drawn in half a dozen even less likely spots for the near future. �In the past, a bonus for a player might have been a good dinner or as much as $3,000. Today, things have changed. With Atlanta, Toronto, the Yankees, Los Angeles, and California leading the way and the expansion Florida Marlins, a late entry in the signing derbies, prices have gone sky-high. For example, Toronto and Atlanta locked horns over a 16 year-old Brazilian right-handed pitcher named Jose Pett with the Blue Jays spending $700,000. The same two teams battled over a 16 year-old shortstop in Australia named Glenn Williams. This time, the Braves won�at a cost of $900,000. That�s just to sign. Salaries and extras come later. These are kids who would be entering their junior year in high school if they were in the US. (Kids are currently allowed to sign at younger ages offshore.) �The Yankees recently signed Tom Becker in Australia and Rafael Medina in Panama; the Angels nailed Trent Durrington in Australia; the Dodgers signed Kym Ashworth in Australia, Hugo Pivoral in Guatemala, and Karin Garcia in Mexico. Toronto signed Darren Phillips from Australia; the Braves penned Ray Hofer of Holland, Andres Jones of Curacao, Bruce Chen of Panama, and two Australians in addition to Williams - Ben Utting and Damien Moss. All these players earned excellent bonuses, all are considered excellent prospects and all were under 18 when signed. Remember those names. �Is such investment wise? Only time will tell. But history is on the side of success. The majors have had four Australians on 25-man rosters. Holland had one. Numerous others are scattered through the high minor leagues. Most are considered good prospects. �Australia has become a solid source of supply for American Baseball; and the Australian Baseball League has become possibly the world top amateur league, combining professional players and major league development money, in an operation that may soon become the world�s sixth professional league. �Major league baseball�s owners have formed an organization called Major League Baseball International Partners, which serves as a source of supply for coaches and offers nations an opportunity to promote, develop and market baseball locally and worldwide. The world has truly become baseball�s marketplace. US major league hats and T-shirts can be found in ball parks on every continent, except Antarctica. Seeds planted a century ago are now offering a bountiful harvest worldwide.� As I write this note, I have received another fax from Bill. This time he�s on a plane from Taiwan to Toronto, looking for Major League talent.

This article was written in and around 1997 (maybe earlier as I continue to look) from the Addams Report. There is plenty of more sources/information, if you know what to look for.

Also, since I was looking, the Japanese Professional Baseball league began in 1936...9 years before our supposed introduction of "American Culture" began.

I still don't like baseball.

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Ok , never mind me then
Well i see there is players from Australia tho.

But i don't think Baseball is goin to be as popular in Europe as popular in America tho

Same with footy, in America footy never goin to be as popular as is in Rest of the world

I think the reason why baseball never goin to be popular In europe , becouse the media doesnt play baseball.

In the other hand thats goes with American media.

Soccer will never be as popular as elsewhere , becouse the American media doesnt play too much soccer on tv

Plus, footy is the traditional game in Europe, so they will never really goin to like baseball. Same with the baseball and American football, its the american traditional game , they will never goin to like footy as much as the Europiens do.

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Ok , never mind me then Well i see there is players from Australia tho. But i don't think Baseball is goin to be as popular in Europe as popular in America tho Same with footy, in America footy never goin to be as popular as is in Rest of the world I think the reason why baseball never goin to be popular In europe , becouse the media doesnt play baseball. In the other hand thats goes with American media. Soccer will never be as popular as elsewhere , becouse the American media doesnt play too much soccer on tv Plus, footy is the traditional game in Europe, so they will never really goin to like baseball. Same with the baseball and American football, its the american traditional game , they will never goin to like footy as much as the Europiens do.

"But i don't think Baseball is goin to be as popular in Europe as popular in America tho"

Baseball isnt even popular in europe. the reason we dont like, or care for baseball isnt because the media doesnt show it, and they dont, its because we dont care, we dont like, baseball, if the media showed it, they would lose money, because no one would watch any games. it is the same as you said in america, media rarely shows football.

I just found out, the american oylmpic baseball team failed to qualify for the olympics in athens 2004 to mexico!!! "dirty" mexicans beat the mighty american baseball player. WHAT A PITY!

lol

True , american baseball not too good

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Originally posted by hardstyle True , american baseball not too good

American english not too good!

We can call it the world series because the best players in the world play here. With the exception of the guys who can't get out of cuba or whatever, if your good enough you'll be playing MLB.

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Originally posted by Heinz I just found out, the american oylmpic baseball team failed to qualify for the olympics in athens 2004 to mexico!!! "dirty" mexicans beat the mighty american baseball player. WHAT A PITY!

And we sent a team without most of our good players =/ If the top American Players played vs the top players from any other country we'd kick there ass, gaurenteed.

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