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Posted by Inertia on Nov-04-2003 03:26:

pioneer line (or basically general) cd player question...

i understand the functions of the jogwheel on a DJ cd player,
but, aside from its reputation of being the best of the best,
the Pioneer CDJ-1000Mk2 interests me because of how i see James
Zabiela and many other DJs scratch with it. not that i think
that i'll scratch like Zabiela just because i have a CDJ-1000,
but now that i think about it, ive never seen anyone scratch
with any other CD player...

so the question is... (and yes, im a newbie in the subject,
have never fiddled with a DJ cd player)

are the jogwheels on all other CD players just functional for
fram to frame searching, or does another player offer the same
feature the CDJ-1000Mk2 does?

thanks for the help...


Posted by dartman on Nov-04-2003 04:13:

the only other dj cd players that you can scratch with would be the the denon s3000, s5000, the pioneer cdj 800, and the cdj 1000 (mk2). some other cd players try to let you "scratch" but its just not the same. the denon 2600f has a digi scratch mode but it pretty much blows, and i think some numarks have some kind of scratch thing going on but its not the same.


Posted by Inertia on Nov-04-2003 19:13:

i was really thinking i�d get more of a response...

anyways, dartman, does the cdj800 scratching feature compare
to the 1000Mk2�s? how about the denons? if i get a CD player,
id like one with this capability, because i love breaks and
all the shit you can pull off with scratching...

also, then what happens with non-scratch CD players when you
play with the jog wheel? does it joes framesearch silently, or
just go flangey, etc?


Posted by DR86 on Nov-04-2003 21:44:

actually, i find the scratch on the numark axis 9 better than the CDJ 800


Posted by eMin on Nov-04-2003 21:46:

numark axis 9 do the same thing, but with smaller jog wheel... good price, good quality... just like their TTx


Posted by Inertia on Nov-04-2003 23:32:

is the smaller jogwheel much of a issue?
what does it measure and how does it compare to the CDJ1000's?

(cuz its kinda hard to scratch accurately on a "platter" the size of a quarter)


Posted by DR86 on Nov-05-2003 00:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Inertia
is the smaller jogwheel much of a issue?
what does it measure and how does it compare to the CDJ1000's?

(cuz its kinda hard to scratch accurately on a "platter" the size of a quarter)


the axis 9 has a smaller jog wheel, but it's most definitely not the size of a quarter, i dont know where you heard that. but it's stil extremely easy to use.
if you want the best, Numark is coming out witht the CDX1 in the spring. it will have a full 12 inch platter that spins to emulate vinyl, and the platter is made of vinyl, so iti will ave that "feel".


Posted by Inertia on Nov-05-2003 00:55:

hehe, was just exaggerating to make a point...

damn, the CDX1 sounds SA-WEEEEET...

only bad thing is though, itll prolly be over 1000USD,
and i was interested in Numarks cuz theyre cheaper than
CDJ1000Mk2s, but ah well..


Posted by DR86 on Nov-05-2003 02:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Inertia
hehe, was just exaggerating to make a point...

damn, the CDX1 sounds SA-WEEEEET...

only bad thing is though, itll prolly be over 1000USD,
and i was interested in Numarks cuz theyre cheaper than
CDJ1000Mk2s, but ah well..


currently the CDJ1000mk2's go for well over 1000 bills. however, the numarks are pricetagged for release at $999 (plus tax and fees).
but they'll still be cheaper than the mkii's


Posted by pumavisor808 on Nov-05-2003 03:03:

If you're looking to save a little money I'd go with then Denon s-3000..You can get these for under $550 each.

Full scratching capabilities, better customer support than Pioneer, upgradeable software, rotating platter (just like a turntable).

Or if you have the $$, then get the Denon S-5000. Easily the best cd player on the market...


Posted by dartman on Nov-05-2003 07:24:

you can go back and forth about the pioneers and denons, and which is better, etc....... they're both great cd decks. i've never used the axis 9s, so i cant really comment on them. as for cd players with little jog wheels..... the jog wheels are for frame by frame searching, effects, and pitch bend. pitch bend is speeding up or slowing down the song just for a second to get it in time with the other song if its off just a bit.


Posted by Inertia on Nov-05-2003 15:11:

well, even as that may be so, when you�re using an 130mm jogwheel to scratch with, i can imagine its pretty uncomfortable...


Posted by DR86 on Nov-06-2003 05:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Inertia
well, even as that may be so, when you�re using an 130mm jogwheel to scratch with, i can imagine its pretty uncomfortable...


it's really not. i do it all the time.


Posted by Localsky on Nov-07-2003 05:18:

Look into the Pioneer CDJ-800. Right now Pioneer is offering a $100 rebate until November 1st (I think). So you can get one for about $500-$550 after rebate. From the research I did before I bought my CDJ, it seemed like people that were into scratching preferred the CDJ-800 over the CDJ-1000. I don�t scratch so I couldn�t tell you.


Posted by Streakfury on Dec-26-2003 03:07:

How much are CDJ 1000 MK2's?? The Pioneer website doesn't say. Anybody know??



EDIT: OK, somebody's already answered the question. Sorry!!


Posted by Freak on Dec-26-2003 14:27:

If you are buying the pioneers to scratch with you will be disappointed.
Absolutely nothing like a real turntable

As someone said before- other cd drives offer a scratch facility- denons do from the 2100f and upwards- but they are worse than the pioneers


Posted by eMin on Dec-28-2003 03:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Streakfury
How much are CDJ 1000 MK2's?? The Pioneer website doesn't say. Anybody know??



EDIT: OK, somebody's already answered the question. Sorry!!


its about $999 or maybe cheaper on some online stores, i'm not sure.



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