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Worst serial killer on record to go free....

So the green river killer, dude lives about 45 minutes away from me, admitted to brutally murdering 48 women.

In exchange for a guilty plea, the prosecutor is dumping the death penalty and putting him in prison for life.

Firstly, think of what this guy did. 48 times he took a womans life. Because they were weaker than him, because he wanted to, because he wanted to kill. 48 times rage spasmed across his face as he struck these women down, silencing them forever. 48 times a woman gasped her last breath, blood bubbling out, because this fuck wanted to take a life. He stood there, arms hanging limply, head cocked to the side, as her foot kicked out reflexively, and a small cry of pain escaped her tortured throat...the last heart wrenching moments of their life captured in the dull reflection of this man's eyes...

and he gets to go to prison for life. Where you get hot showers, hot meals, free gyms, cable television, and a plethora of other luxuries.

Their reasoning (the prosecutions) is that they would have to convince a jury beyond reasonable doubt on every aspect of every crime to get a conviction. This could take quite a while on 48 counts of aggravated murder. Juries could be thrown out, mistrials etc...the guy may never get a conviction.

Im so angry right now...I cant believe the legal system has turned into this fucking barter and trade system. The heart of the law is fucking gone. This fuck is admitting to killing FORTY EIGHT WOMEN!!!!!!!!! ADMITTING IT! and they wont kill the mother ******.

thoughts? Im pretty fucking angry right now cuz its on live TV and I keep seeing the face of this little shit flashing across the screen as they calmly discuss the people whose lives got cut horrifyingly short...God, I feel sick.

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Originally posted by Orbax So the green river killer, dude lives about 45 minutes away from me, admitted to brutally murdering 48 women. In exchange for a guilty plea, the prosecutor is dumping the death penalty and putting him in prison for life. Firstly, think of what this guy did. 48 times he took a womans life. Because they were weaker than him, because he wanted to, because he wanted to kill. 48 times rage spasmed across his face as he struck these women down, silencing them forever. 48 times a woman gasped her last breath, blood bubbling out, because this fuck wanted to take a life. He stood there, arms hanging limply, head cocked to the side, as her foot kicked out reflexively, and a small cry of pain escaped her tortured throat...the last heart wrenching moments of their life captured in the dull reflection of this man's eyes... and he gets to go to prison for life. Where you get hot showers, hot meals, free gyms, cable television, and a plethora of other luxuries. Their reasoning (the prosecutions) is that they would have to convince a jury beyond reasonable doubt on every aspect of every crime to get a conviction. This could take quite a while on 48 counts of aggravated murder. Juries could be thrown out, mistrials etc...the guy may never get a conviction. Im so angry right now...I cant believe the legal system has turned into this fucking barter and trade system. The heart of the law is fucking gone. This fuck is admitting to killing FORTY EIGHT WOMEN!!!!!!!!! ADMITTING IT! and they wont kill the mother ******. thoughts? Im pretty fucking angry right now cuz its on live TV and I keep seeing the face of this little shit flashing across the screen as they calmly discuss the people whose lives got cut horrifyingly short...God, I feel sick.

Well how are we supposed to heal those who are sick with this disease of serial killing? What he needs is a good rehabilitation program to help him with his disease. Then once he's healed, we should be confident enough to send him back out in society.

Sorry to make light of the subject. For the most part, I don't believe in the justification of the death penalty. However, the human instinct inside me wouldn't have a difficult time making exceptions, such as this.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Well how are we supposed to heal those who are sick with this disease of serial killing? What he needs is a good rehabilitation program to help him with his disease. Then once he's healed, we should be confident enough to send him back out in society. Sorry to make light of the subject. For the most part, I don't believe in the justification of the death penalty. However, the human instinct inside me wouldn't have a difficult time making exceptions, such as this.

The moment you intentionally take someones life, you give up the right of your own, so for someone to get let off after 48 is pathetic, we don't need to rehabilitate this kind of person, we need them gone and spend the money on people who need it like schools & healthcare for people

eye for an eye..the way us texans see things

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Originally posted by speedracer_mec eye for an eye..the way us texans see things

Do you Texans conveniently forget about Matthew 5:38? Seems like your good ol' boy ex-governor-killer-for-hire Junior Bush always kinda forgot that "turn the other cheek" phrase.

But as stated before, the human instinct in me would very much make an exception for serial killers, among other brutal murderers.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Do you Texans conveniently forget about Matthew 5:38? Seems like your good ol' boy ex-governor-killer-for-hire Junior Bush always kinda forgot that "turn the other cheek" phrase. But as stated before, the human instinct in me would very much make an exception for serial killers, among other brutal murderers.

i honestly as a conservative believe...48 murders is completely outrageous and calls for a public execution

Why not make the pro-lifers happy and just give him life imprisonment with weekly floggings?

You can calculate how many floggings is worth a human life ... infinity ... and set this guy up with an infinity*48 flogging life sentences.

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Originally posted by occrider Why not make the pro-lifers happy and just give him life imprisonment with weekly floggings?

is dat directed towards me?

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Originally posted by speedracer_mec is dat directed towards me?

That depends ... are you a 48 count serial killer?

Actually the UK�s very own Dr. Shipman (I think that was his name) is the worst ever serial killer. He bumped off about 200 OAP�s to get to their inheritance but no one really knows the exact figure of how many were killed.

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Originally posted by speedracer_mec i honestly as a conservative believe...48 murders is completely outrageous and calls for a public execution

As I mentioned previously, I would easily make an exception to such an extreme whacko case like this. As far as I'm concerned, this guy/demon/freak doesn't belong on the same planet as the rest of us.

However, the argument that I often hear death penalty advocates use is that "eye for an eye" phrase out of Leviticus. To which I counter with the Christian "turn the other cheek" phrase which Jesus himself mentioned in direct response to the "eye for an eye" statement. And as I said earlier, it's funny how dp advocates often skip over that passage, because it doesn't fit their "Christian" agenda.

I'm sorry if I offend. Not really meant directly towards you, just speaking in generalities.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Well how are we supposed to heal those who are sick with this disease of serial killing? What he needs is a good rehabilitation program to help him with his disease. Then once he's healed, we should be confident enough to send him back out in society.

Um, if someone is sick enough to kill that many people then in no way should they ever be let back into society...even after rehabilitation. I think what this guy did is beyond a disease...he's a piece of shit IMO and shouldn't have the right to live. In situations such as his, I support the death penalty fully.

*Texan* Regardless of where I'm from anyone who murders someone should be killed themselves. A disease? Honestly I wouldn't care if the person who killed a man woman or child was mentally retarded. If that person has the capacity to murder another human being said person should in tern get the same as a punishment.
I don't believe in healing those that have gone beyond the point of redemption.

what is there to prove if he has already confessed?

Uh oh

I sense a huge debate over the death penalty coming up

i say solitary confinement for the rest of his life + daily floggings.

Umm, in case anyone missed my *sarcasm* earlier, I was being quite fececious when stating this guy needs rehab.

How in the f$ck could a thing like that who's killed 48 women be successfully rehabed and sent back out into society?

Umm, riiight.

As difficult as this may be to defend, I believe that two wrongs don't make a right and am against the death penalty.

Personally, if I were faced with:

1) Life in prison without the possibility of parole, spending every single day of my remaining life with the scum of humanity or by myself...

or

2) Death by lethal injection...

I would much rather the second alternative.


This whole situation does make me wonder however, if this guy killed 48 people, why is the prosecution bargaining with him? Don't they have enough evidence to convict him without his confession? Something doesn't seem right here.

In the context of our shitty legal system this was probably a wise choice. The trial would have lasted years, doubtless would have faced years upon that of appeals. Even that would have been no guarentee of a guilty verdict.

So the decision is between either:

A. Letting him live but without freedom, but sparing society the expense of a prolonged trial.

or

B. Giving him a nice warm fuzzy death if you get a conviction, most likely 20+ years later at a huge expense to society.

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Originally posted by zarathustra As difficult as this may be to defend, I believe that two wrongs don't make a right and am against the death penalty. Personally, if I were faced with: 1) Life in prison without the possibility of parole, spending every single day of my remaining life with the scum of humanity or by myself... or 2) Death by lethal injection... I would much rather the second alternative. This whole situation does make me wonder however, if this guy killed 48 people, why is the prosecution bargaining with him? Don't they have enough evidence to convict him without his confession? Something doesn't seem right here.

From what I listened to on NPR this morning, the prosecution had a couple of reasons. First, he has been very cooperative since his capture in confessing his other murders, as well as showing where the other bodies were located. Second, somehow they thought it would be difficult to prosecute - since the death penalty has been enacted in Washington St. some 30 years ago, there had only been 4 convictions. So I guess they consider that state somewhat anti-death penalty or something. Finally, the cost of trial, and the subsequent years on death row would have costed the WA taxpayers millions of dollars on this one case, which again wasn't too favorable to the prosecution.

All in all, I say BS - I'd hang this guy in a heartbeat, as I see this as a definite brutal exception to my anti-death penalty stance.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 How in the f$ck could a thing like that who's killed 48 women be successfully rehabed and sent back out into society?

Floggings? I'm really upset that public torture is a thing of the past ... . Think of how cool it would be to have whipping wednesdays or flogging fridays. We could all collect some cabbage and tomatoes to throw at people as they cart them by. And spend some good wholesome family time away from the tv.

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Originally posted by occrider Floggings? I'm really upset that public torture is a thing of the past ... . Think of how cool it would be to have whipping wednesdays or flogging fridays. We could all collect some cabbage and tomatoes to throw at people as they cart them by. And spend some good wholesome family time away from the tv.

John: Hey you coming out tonight with us, PvD is going to be spinning?
Mary: No, actually this is my Friday night floggings night, and its so much more entertaining you know.
John: Damn I forgot.

i have to agree with the first post... people that are that fucked up (and yes i realise they must have mental problems... but with problems that severe.. i think termination is the most humane thing period.. for both sides) people that are tha fucked up don't desrve $40,000 a year of our taxes going to pay for thier imprisonment. if you're that fucked up the only cure IMO is some warm soothing euthinasia.



and i do think cane-ing should be used.. particularly on the more violent of todays young un's... if they want to dish out pain then i think they should have the intamacy of feeling it as well.


oh.. i also think that if you kill more than 5 peopl you should be split in half transylvania style (yes.. there is a transylvania and king dracul was the guy dracula was based on.. at one point his country was so crazy that the only way he could get people to pay taxes was to split them in half by tieing wieghts to their feet and hand and siiting them atop a metal wedge.. they didn't die until the blade hit their heart.. it probably took at least 30 seconds for the blade to reach their heart... and that'sa long 30 seconds.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Umm, in case anyone missed my *sarcasm* earlier, I was being quite fececious when stating this guy needs rehab. How in the f$ck could a thing like that who's killed 48 women be successfully rehabed and sent back out into society? Umm, riiight.

Sorry, wasn't sure if you were being sarcastic but the way you wrote it it didn't sound like sarcasm. Yer right, thats not a rational statement in any way.

BTW, even though I think this guy deserves death...prison is no playground I bet even with cable television and such. A lifetime of prison would definetly suck. All in all, I'm sure this sick fuck will get his in the afterlife provided there is one.

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Originally posted by MERTON oh.. i also think that if you kill more than 5 peopl you should be split in half transylvania style (yes.. there is a transylvania and king dracul was the guy dracula was based on.. at one point his country was so crazy that the only way he could get people to pay taxes was to split them in half by tieing wieghts to their feet and hand and siiting them atop a metal wedge.. they didn't die until the blade hit their heart.. it probably took at least 30 seconds for the blade to reach their heart... and that'sa long 30 seconds.

Either that or the thing they used to do where they would tie your arms and legs to 4 different horses and have them run in opposite directions...ouch.

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