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Posted by UglyDave on Nov-07-2003 15:24:

drugs made me stupid

it's true.. too many saturday nights out partyin, not i cant concentrate at all.. i've noticed this over the past month or 2.

been takin pills for about 2 years.

i was so much better at programming when i was about 15.

cant even do stuff i was doin 2 years ago now..


Posted by Ripped Bag on Nov-07-2003 15:27:

damn dude..

haven't you quit yet if you're already noticing bad effects?


Posted by ratz on Nov-07-2003 15:31:

Re: drugs made me stupid

quote:
Originally posted by UglyDave
it's true.. too many saturday nights out partyin, not i cant concentrate at all.. i've noticed this over the past month or 2.

been takin pills for about 2 years.

i was so much better at programming when i was about 15.

cant even do stuff i was doin 2 years ago now..


i know that feeling... and ya ill admit that my memory... though not complete shit... isnt the same as it was before... and its just the lill things that i forget to... like appointments and such...
but in the end its all up to you to decide if it was all worth it... and to me id have to say it was... had the time of my life...


Posted by monoxide on Nov-07-2003 15:35:

calm down dave,
i do see those effects time to time on myself, but i think it's more the effect of alcohol than X
well i don't care bout it... yet


Posted by UglyDave on Nov-07-2003 15:35:

Re: Re: drugs made me stupid

quote:
Originally posted by ratz
i know that feeling... and ya ill admit that my memory... though not complete shit... isnt the same as it was before... and its just the lill things that i forget to... like appointments and such...
but in the end its all up to you to decide if it was all worth it... and to me id have to say it was... had the time of my life...


i had a fun time too, but like, it's by no means worth it.. like, i'm now having to spend the enxt 50 odd years of my life not being as smart as i used to be..

this could have a stinkin impact on the career etc...

think i'll just marry a rich lady..

no wait!! i'm too ugly even for that!!

I'M DOOMED!!!!


Posted by UglyDave on Nov-07-2003 15:38:

quote:
Originally posted by monoxide
calm down dave,
i do see those effects time to time on myself, but i think it's more the effect of alcohol than X
well i don't care bout it... yet


i dunno.. maybe i just havn't beeen pulling my weight in java recently

gettin a bit more optimistic
i'll read over my notes this weekend then do a few previous practicals and see how i get on

will be a good reason to revise of nothing else
i'm in a java practical class now, and i'm doing this, so maybe it's TA which is makin me a shit programmin

Dave


Posted by monoxide on Nov-07-2003 15:40:

quote:
Originally posted by UglyDave
so maybe it's TA which is makin me a shit programmin


whahahahahahaha....


Posted by DJ-Fuq on Nov-07-2003 15:46:

Re: Re: Re: drugs made me stupid

quote:
Originally posted by UglyDave
i had a fun time too, but like, it's by no means worth it.. like, i'm now having to spend the enxt 50 odd years of my life not being as smart as i used to be..


Theres no proof that mdma does permanent brain damage.
If uv been abusing it then u only have urself to blame for any bad effects.
If i was u id stick to cannabis and opiates (once a week at most). People use alcohol and amphetamines too much.


Posted by ratz on Nov-07-2003 15:47:

theres been a few studies done that show that in time... if you stop completely... you will eventually get back to a more normal state... though yes doing e will have some kind of permanet effect... it wont be be as bad as you think...
and if you think yer bad off... just imagine how bad its gonna be in england a few years from now... i met this 1 guy from holland that did 12 pills every weakend for over 6 months... they get it so cheep there... (around $5 canadian a pill) that its just so easy to do too much... lol


Posted by DJ-Fuq on Nov-07-2003 15:54:

quote:
Originally posted by ratz
though yes doing e will have some kind of permanet effect...


http://mdma.net/toxicity/ricaurte.html
That?


Posted by monoxide on Nov-07-2003 15:54:

quote:
Originally posted by ratz
theres been a few studies done that show that in time... if you stop completely... you will eventually get back to a more normal state... though yes doing e will have some kind of permanet effect... it wont be be as bad as you think...
and if you think yer bad off... just imagine how bad its gonna be in england a few years from now... i met this 1 guy from holland that did 12 pills every weakend for over 6 months... they get it so cheep there... (around $5 canadian a pill) that its just so easy to do too much... lol


price in lithuania is:
15Litas=5euros=$7 - 1 XTC in the niteclub it's 1/2 price if you do know where to buy outside the club!!!


Posted by UglyDave on Nov-07-2003 16:05:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Fuq
http://mdma.net/toxicity/ricaurte.html
That?


i coulda read that with ease two years ago, but there's too many big words in it now...


Posted by ratz on Nov-07-2003 16:07:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Fuq
http://mdma.net/toxicity/ricaurte.html
That?


lol... thats just shit put out by the goverment to scare us... im never gonna believe that shit... and anyways... they give those monkeys alot more e then ive ever taken...


Posted by DJ-Fuq on Nov-07-2003 16:22:

quote:
Originally posted by ratz
lol... thats just shit put out by the goverment to scare us... im never gonna believe that shit... and anyways... they give those monkeys alot more e then ive ever taken...


Read this.
http://mdma.net/toxicity/retraction.html
They never gave them e. They actually gave them methamphetamine by 'mistake'. And the study was finished just in the nick of time to have the rave act passed.
How come they didnt realise there had been a 'mistake' when their findings were so different from all previous studies etc?

Anyway, if u werent talking about that crap, give me some sources showing this permanent brain damage u were talking about.


Posted by xKaoSx on Nov-07-2003 16:25:

The only effects I noticed from E ( I did it for like a year straight- every weekend) was that my concentration was lacking and I would forget stupid little things- Like a name of a movie- or something I knew I should know- Ever felt like something was on the tip of your tongue and you just couldnt figure it out? Yea- pretty much that for a couople months. If you actually stop completely you will get back to normal in 3-6 months.


Posted by Dj onE on Nov-07-2003 16:28:

this research is bullshit! why da hell would you give a monkey 3 doses 3 hours apart...who the hell would do that

Squirrel monkeys (Saimiri sciureus) were given MDMA at a dosage of 2 mg/kg, three times, at 3-hour intervals, for a total dose of 6 mg/kg (





.dJonE.


Posted by DJ-Fuq on Nov-07-2003 16:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj onE
this research is bullshit!


quote:
Read this.
http://mdma.net/toxicity/retraction.html
They never gave them e. They actually gave them methamphetamine by 'mistake'. And the study was finished just in the nick of time to have the rave act passed.
How come they didnt realise there had been a 'mistake' when their findings were so different from all previous studies etc?


Posted by DaveSZ on Nov-07-2003 17:14:

Stay away from amphetamines. They really fucked up my memory and thinking permanently, and they were perscription!

In my experience the negative effects of cannibis on memory subside after you stop using it, but then I only experimented and never abused it for a long period of time.

Alcohol abuse causes damage to vital organs such as the brain and liver, but moderate alcohol use is safe (and even benefitial).

As for MDMA, some of my friends who have taken it say they regret it because of the memory loss. It doesn't matter if there's not yet scientific proof that it causes memory loss if a large amount of circumstantial evidence points to the conclusion that it does in some people.



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