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Posted by The Don on Nov-08-2003 11:52:

Opinions on a new mixer..

Just now I own the DJM600, Ive had and sold an A&H Xone62. So Im looking for opinions on Mixers that compare or are better(for in the house use) My DJM is looking to get replaced soon so I was wondering if Im aswell getting another or if their has been anything that comes close to it...


Posted by rxt on Nov-08-2003 11:59:

wow you went from a xone62 to a djm600... i'd figure it would be the other way around...

honestly, mixers for at home use that are better than the djm600 that i can think of are really only the a&h xone62 and the Tascam X9


Posted by chesco on Nov-08-2003 15:45:

if only the xone 62 had the same filter as the 32.

that filter looks brilliant to use.


Posted by JohnSmith on Nov-09-2003 05:37:

Man, I think you've used some high quality mixers, but nothing compares to this:



it owns those other mixers you posted.

i heard this is the mixer they use at all the big raves in the netherlands.

it has effects too, the sound is so scratchy, it sorta sounds like a flanger.


Posted by amdmaxx on Nov-09-2003 06:03:

lol..
dude, xone 62 is the BOMB, best out there, unless u got $6000 to drop on A&H Tube mixer, then go get xone 62 back and enjoy it...


Posted by Nemesis44 on Nov-11-2003 01:43:

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
Man, I think you've used some high quality mixers, but nothing compares to this:



it owns those other mixers you posted.

i heard this is the mixer they use at all the big raves in the netherlands.

it has effects too, the sound is so scratchy, it sorta sounds like a flanger.


MANIAC!!!!! LOL

Seriously now, as Amdmaxx said "get the Allen & Heath back". I have a Xone 464 at home and swear by them. A nice touch they have is four EQs as opposed to the usual three, makes mixes more diverse. The filter is really cool too (as long as it's used sparingly).

Cheers
Nem


Posted by pumavisor808 on Nov-11-2003 03:08:

Maybe you should try this out....

Should be a hell of alot better than the Pioneer DJM600...
and if you don't like the A&H don't know what's going to make you happy...


Posted by dj_pulse on Nov-11-2003 04:49:

I'd suggest either an A&H Xone:464 or a Stanton VRM-10 valve mixer.. Nice...


Posted by Dj Flesch on Nov-12-2003 00:11:

in order to help you out more, why don't you tell us why you decided to get rid of two of the best mixers on the market? Obviously you didn't like either of them if you are looking to replace them so quickly! What did you not like about either mixer and what are you looking for in your next mixer?

No offense, but it seems to me that you're not very informed about what a good mixer is. If you had that knowledge, then 1. you wouldn't have gotten rid of either of those mixers and 2. you wouldn't need to ask this question on this forum.


Posted by `pr0digy on Nov-12-2003 03:17:

No offense, but it sounds to me your full of shit. Oh yeah, I had like, 5 mk5g's but I sold them they weren't good enough rofl rofl.


Posted by punchline on Nov-12-2003 04:39:

Seriously. If you have gone through an Xone62 and a DJM 600 and you still don't know a good mixer when you see one, I don't think any one of us can help you.

The X9 is the best mixer I have ever used. If I were buying a new mixer that's what I would get.


Posted by Rememberence_ on Nov-12-2003 04:55:

quote:
Originally posted by `pr0digy
No offense, but it sounds to me your full of shit. Oh yeah, I had like, 5 mk5g's but I sold them they weren't good enough rofl rofl.



agreed.


Posted by Vert on Nov-12-2003 05:36:

Remember, this is the guy that said we should stop reviewing headphones..

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Posted by Nemesis44 on Nov-12-2003 09:29:

Correct me if I'm wrong but I get the impression that someone is poking fun at our willingness to help others.

I think it may be time to close this thread before someone feeds the trolls again.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by chesco on Nov-12-2003 10:56:

quote:
Originally posted by `pr0digy
No offense, but it sounds to me your full of shit. Oh yeah, I had like, 5 mk5g's but I sold them they weren't good enough rofl rofl.



no offense but you don't have a clue what your on about.

we did used to have a xone 62 (paid for with student loan) and a pioneer 600.

i didn't think there was any point in keeping the allen and heath mixer tho cos it was connected to a shite stereo system so you were never going to get the best out of it. so we sold it for next to retail price.

we've always had the djm-600 and now what the don is saying its time to progress to a bigger and better mixer along with the new sound system.

so instead of making stupid little comments because your 10,000miles away on your silly little computer, why don't you post something more constructive


Posted by Nemesis44 on Nov-12-2003 11:21:

In that case it depends on what you want to get out of it. What your channel requirement is etc. It also depends on what sort of money you are talking about.

I have an Allen & Heath Xone 464 which is fine for me as I use to have other things plugged into it (A Vestax PMC 05 Pro II and a handfull of rappers to be exact when I used to play big beat). However if you are looking to DJ then for what you pay for it you would be better off getting the model below it.

The Pioneer is a good mixer and would possibly say that you needn't get anything new but it depends on what you want to do?

The Tascam X9 is another in the same price range as the 464 but to be honest it's just a rip off version of the DJM-600 in my opinion.
The Vestax PMC 55 is nice if not a little over priced.

I would definately get a Xone 62 again if I were you. You can't beat that 4 band EQ in my opinion. You just have to love the VCF filters too.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by `pr0digy on Nov-12-2003 15:11:

quote:
Originally posted by chesco
no offense but you don't have a clue what your on about.

we did used to have a xone 62 (paid for with student loan) and a pioneer 600.

i didn't think there was any point in keeping the allen and heath mixer tho cos it was connected to a shite stereo system so you were never going to get the best out of it. so we sold it for next to retail price.

we've always had the djm-600 and now what the don is saying its time to progress to a bigger and better mixer along with the new sound system.

so instead of making stupid little comments because your 10,000miles away on your silly little computer, why don't you post something more constructive


Well, I stand corrected then (along with all the others ) Anyway, I guess this just proves that if you act like an idiot (i.e. tell the DJ Booth forum they shouldn't review hardware), it's going to stick with you...


Posted by Rememberence_ on Nov-12-2003 18:07:

quote:
Originally posted by `pr0digy
Well, I stand corrected then (along with all the others ) Anyway, I guess this just proves that if you act like an idiot (i.e. tell the DJ Booth forum they shouldn't review hardware), it's going to stick with you...


Haha agreed again. Sif not review headphones in dj booth forum.

Get the Xone62 back!! A&H own me :*(

Here's my baby 32:



Posted by chesco on Nov-12-2003 21:03:

the filters on the xone 32 are the business.

the only thing is i'm trying to incorporate samplers and an extra deck into my mixes and it doesn't have enuff channels for that

still it is a brilliant peice of equipment.


Posted by The Don on Nov-14-2003 08:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Flesch
in order to help you out more, why don't you tell us why you decided to get rid of two of the best mixers on the market? Obviously you didn't like either of them if you are looking to replace them so quickly! What did you not like about either mixer and what are you looking for in your next mixer?

No offense, but it seems to me that you're not very informed about what a good mixer is. If you had that knowledge, then 1. you wouldn't have gotten rid of either of those mixers and 2. you wouldn't need to ask this question on this forum.


Ive had the DJm 600 for a good few years now and Im afraid bit are starting to go wrong which is annoying. The faders and rotarys are crackling and the buttons of the beat selector are sticking. Im not interested in repairing it cos its only going to happen again in 6 months.

As fot the A&H, well I have used this mixer playing out and I loved it, I found the sound to be great and the functions to be very user friendly. But unless you have a large PA system to run this mixer though it give a very dull sound and recording is very poor, as I found out when I bought one..

As for knowing what a good mixer is, well Ive been DJing for 10 years. I kind of have a clue what I like, knowing what makes a decent mixer wasnt the issue.

My perfect mixer would be the DJM lay out with the durability of the A&H..


Posted by montie on Nov-14-2003 09:00:

i'd say get that allen and heath back and instead of investing in a new mixer invest in a new and better sound system.
id kill for one of those in my bedroom set up

but heres another good choice
the Rane Empath


solid mixer. great sound. great easy lay out.
beautiful piece of hardware.


Posted by DJ RANN on Nov-14-2003 16:27:

Don't mean to hurt your feelings montie (or anyone who owns one) but the empath is a just a plain cratch mixer on steriods.
Sure it has some interesting functions but it doesn't compare to an A+H or even a DJM600.
I know I'm probably gonna get a load of flack for this but the DJM 600 (and the DJM range in general) is quite a shit mixer.
It's functions allthough varied are nothing more than gimmicks and if used other than very sparingly it just gets damn annoying.
This is not why I say they are crap. It's the build quality and component choice which lets it down. For not much change from �650 i would expect nothing less than highest quality with tank like durability, but while working for one of Europe largest pro audio equipment and dj retailers, I saw first hand how many people came back with them saying " the pots are crackling / this bit stopped working / etc etc etc". For that much money it's just not acceptable.
A+H on the other hand are rock hard and (apart from the odd out the box problems) they're really solid quality, hence why so many clubs use them.
I have literally sold hundreds of mixers to now happy dj's and producers and choosing the right one is simply down to wporking what suits you personally.
Ask yourself these :
how many outputs do I need?
How many inputs do I need (simultanious or otherwise?)
How many fader channels do I want?
What type of cue monitoring do I prefer?
Do I need x-fader curve control?
Do i need mic inputs?
What on board FX do I want, if any?
Once you have your spec, see what are the closest matches within your budget.
Finally remember to to see if you feel comfortable/like the layout/sound quality etc. as it may well suit your hardward needs but is not a joy to mix on and that's what really counts. If you can't perform your best on it, what's the point?
To address one other thing: You need to upgrade you sound system rather than your mixer in future : it's like buying a porsche than putting mud in the fuel tank; your doing yourself no favours.

Lastly remember : it's more about ability than equipment and nearly allways, the bigger and more expensive the the mixer, the tinyer the penis.



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Posted by gsx on Nov-14-2003 21:41:

the x9 is not a ripoff of the djm600. yes they do have similar layouts.. ive used both. and trust me, the x9 is superior. dual effects/samplers, eq freq range knobs, 24 bit quality, digital inputs.. and much more. the x9 is a djm600 on steroids. trust me, i own one.

i havent had a chance to try an a&h but ive read nothing but great things about them. and the xone:62 was named the "best club mixer" 2 years in a row by DJ mag, so im assuming its good. you could also wait till dec 2003 when the xone:92 comes out.


Posted by Nemesis44 on Nov-14-2003 21:55:

I stand corrected.

That'll teach me he he. Or at least that will teach me to beleive a review. It's actually good to hear that as the one I got to try out was old and knackered so it probably gave me the wrong impression.

A & H 92 eh? sounds interesting.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by physe on Nov-15-2003 07:03:

I'm not very knowedgeable on mixers so someone please enlighten me. I always wonder why nobody suggests the Stanton VRM-10. Why is that? Is it too expensive? Not worth it? Complete garbage? All of the above?

Is it that the A&H mixers are like the 1200s are to turntables?

What's the deal?


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