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Posted by LKD on Nov-12-2003 16:09:

Note to DJs that put their mixes up

so yea alot of us love these mixes so much that we wanna burn them on cd (if u guys are cool with it that is)..

however..IMO i think you guys should make cue files or traclists with time markers so that we can skip back and forth between tracks instead of holding that forward or reverse button for minutes together...


what do u guys think??


Posted by DigiNut on Nov-12-2003 16:18:

Big ups to Skipper for doing exactly that!

It's not something I'd *expect* people to do though, since it is a lot of work.


Posted by LKD on Nov-12-2003 16:20:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Big ups to Skipper for doing exactly that!

It's not something I'd *expect* people to do though, since it is a lot of work.


oh i wouldnt expect them to do that either..but it wouldbe really nice if they could

its hard sittin down and making a cue sheet after hours of perfecting a mix...


Posted by Skipper on Nov-12-2003 16:43:

It only makes sense to do this if you, the DJ, are giving a CD to others.

If you want tracks separated on a mix uploaded to the web, the DJ would have to upload say, 10 different files, and you would have to download each separately, and then burn them to CD and even then, there would be a gap between each file and it wouldn't be a continuous mix.

Making track markers is really just splitting the whole mix into separate files of a predetermined length.

btw, Aaron - how'd ya like the cd?


Posted by starsearcher on Nov-12-2003 17:05:

I always cut tracks on my CDs that I give out. I haven't posted any of my mixes here on the site yet though...Don't have anywhere to host them


Posted by starsearcher on Nov-12-2003 17:08:

quote:
It only makes sense to do this if you, the DJ, are giving a CD to others.

If you want tracks separated on a mix uploaded to the web, the DJ would have to upload say, 10 different files, and you would have to download each separately, and then burn them to CD and even then, there would be a gap between each file and it wouldn't be a continuous mix.

Making track markers is really just splitting the whole mix into separate files of a predetermined length.


For once I am agreeing with skipper I think we need to have a celebration just for that!
I guess if you knew what program you are using to burn the CD you could create a cue file just for that one program and upload it. I use Nero and I usually do my track cutting right in there. I could upload that specific burning file for all those who use Nero as well for example, but that's pretty limited to those users who use Nero specifically.


Posted by LKD on Nov-12-2003 19:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
It only makes sense to do this if you, the DJ, are giving a CD to others.

If you want tracks separated on a mix uploaded to the web, the DJ would have to upload say, 10 different files, and you would have to download each separately, and then burn them to CD and even then, there would be a gap between each file and it wouldn't be a continuous mix.

Making track markers is really just splitting the whole mix into separate files of a predetermined length.

btw, Aaron - how'd ya like the cd?


thats why i said cue files...

cue files have the track markings etc. all in one file

so basically its 2 files that are uploaded..ie. the full length cd as one mp3 and a .cue file

nero is the most widely used burning software out there and it reads/makes cue files so it would work out fine...

edit: another option is just stating the start times of each track in the tracklist they post which makes it easier for someon who burns it on cd to split it accordingly


Posted by Endlesswave on Nov-12-2003 19:17:

Too bad it doesn't work for me (Nero) that is. It's not compatible with my burner. I'll put up my demo in a bit (thing is, it's one continuous mix unless I can somehow seperate it in Soundforge?)


Posted by jon jon on Nov-12-2003 19:18:

I'd rather concentrate on making a good mix that doesn't need to be skipped ahead. hah

Just joking, yeah I've never made cue files before. Next time I will for sure dude. Thanks for the headsup.


Posted by LKD on Nov-12-2003 19:22:

well all u guys really need to do if you can make cue sheets is just put down start times (as i mentioned above) and then we could cut it ourselves

reason why i say this is cos off late ive been downloading some sets/compilations and sometimes u just ahve the urge to listen to a track way in the middle or maybe even the end and then i sit for countless minutes fastforwarding...

ask infinity high...he throws fits when i do that while cruising


Posted by Skipper on Nov-12-2003 19:48:

Chris, I use cakewalk to split up mp3 files.

Works wonders when you have a MISSTRESS BARBARA @ SONAR set that you need split up for listening pleasure.


Posted by samhouse on Nov-12-2003 20:26:

meh i need to figure out that cue shit properly


Posted by Flec on Nov-12-2003 20:31:

its not that hard to make cue files yourself...

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8976

is the link for the tutorial on TA


Posted by djeso on Nov-12-2003 20:39:

Re: Note to DJs that put their mixes up

quote:
Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee
so yea alot of us love these mixes so much that we wanna burn them on cd (if u guys are cool with it that is)..

however..IMO i think you guys should make cue files or traclists with time markers so that we can skip back and forth between tracks instead of holding that forward or reverse button for minutes together...


what do u guys think??


You always wine about it .... ? isn't having it online enough ???? atleast have some patience, not everyone has a lot of time to spare

do you complain when a liveset of a dj isn't split for you?


Posted by brunette on Nov-12-2003 21:06:

quote:
Originally posted by halo20
I'd rather concentrate on making a good mix that doesn't need to be skipped ahead. hah




I actually prefer it in one piece, much faster to download & burn


Posted by DigiNut on Nov-12-2003 21:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
btw, Aaron - how'd ya like the cd?

Loved the selection actually, didn't hear any major mixing problems either. I've already played it for a few other people in the car, they approve too.

Only thing is, the volume was super low! Not a big problem since I just cranked the amp, but still scared the shit out of me when I ejected the CD and the radio came on.


Posted by Skipper on Nov-13-2003 00:02:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Loved the selection actually, didn't hear any major mixing problems either. I've already played it for a few other people in the car, they approve too.

Only thing is, the volume was super low! Not a big problem since I just cranked the amp, but still scared the shit out of me when I ejected the CD and the radio came on.


hahaha, I know. Sorry about that.

I tried doing it at a higher output through the mixer, but the sound got totally fried going into my computer. The funny thing is, the volume was lower (than what is on the CD now) and I increased it in soundforge - it still came out low but I was in a mega rush to make copies.

Glad you liked it though; I'm still trying to get it on the C drive on my new computer so I can upload it to Peter's site.


Posted by starsearcher on Nov-13-2003 00:08:

quote:
hahaha, I know. Sorry about that.

I tried doing it at a higher output through the mixer, but the sound got totally fried going into my computer. The funny thing is, the volume was lower (than what is on the CD now) and I increased it in soundforge - it still came out low but I was in a mega rush to make copies.

Glad you liked it though; I'm still trying to get it on the C drive on my new computer so I can upload it to Peter's site.


Try using the "normalize" function when you can. Most recording and audio editing programs (and even burning software) have this feature. It will bring up the volume to a a level which you can specify. It works nicely in soundforge, still not the best but its as close as you can get as far as i know.


Posted by LKD on Nov-13-2003 01:44:

omg...for the 100th time...

YOU DONT NEED TO SPLIT THE DARNED FILE...


a CUE FILE IS AN INDEX TAHT CD BURNING SOFTWARE USES TO SPLIT THE FILE WHILE BURNING AND THE MP3 AINT AFFECTED


Posted by infinity HiGH on Nov-13-2003 01:46:

quote:
Originally posted by brunette


I actually prefer it in one piece, much faster to download & burn


its just as fast with a cue sheet, but you get the ability to skip between tracks


Posted by Endlesswave on Nov-13-2003 02:00:

I don't know why but for some reason I don't like it when things are set up with a cue sheet. It's like everytime I hear a pause in between tracks I lose my place/moment in the set and it's like I'm no longer in the same groove. Too bad I can't cut each track as if it were an album so it would flow the entire way but also flexible the same way if it were cued.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Nov-13-2003 02:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Endlesswave
I don't know why but for some reason I don't like it when things are set up with a cue sheet. It's like everytime I hear a pause in between tracks I lose my place/moment in the set and it's like I'm no longer in the same groove. Too bad I can't cut each track as if it were an album so it would flow the entire way but also flexible the same way if it were cued.


there are NO pauses if you use the .cue sheet correctly Chris. You probably do the indexes but you never change pause length between tracks to 0 (it's set to 2 seconds by default). Or, you don't check 'Disc-At-Once' burning. If you want Nero/other burning software to index the file for you automatically, then you have to select "Burn Image" and then find the cue sheet and the indexes are set in place while the cd is being burnt.

Btw, for anyone who wants a cue for Jon's mix, click here


Posted by Endlesswave on Nov-13-2003 02:35:

Nice Peter. I didn't know it was like that. Now I just have to get a working cd software burner set up properly so I can have cues. Nero doesn't work with an LG burner (at least not with mine).


Posted by LKD on Nov-13-2003 02:40:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
there are NO pauses if you use the .cue sheet correctly Chris.


u know what?

all stereos dont abide by the pause as well

my cd/dvd player for my home system pauses no matter what...


Posted by LKD on Nov-13-2003 02:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Endlesswave
Nice Peter. I didn't know it was like that. Now I just have to get a working cd software burner set up properly so I can have cues. Nero doesn't work with an LG burner (at least not with mine).


i had an lg and used nero...this was about 4 years ago


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