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Posted by Omegasox on Nov-12-2003 18:52:

Anyone know Latin?

I need these translated into Latin:

1. Open Your Eyes
2. Beginning and the End

Posted by Boomer187 on Nov-12-2003 19:04:

eh I forge the whole structure of the language but from an online translator I got these...

abscindo iste acies (open your eyes)

exordium clausula (beginning end, I don't know and the)

I don't know latin and that proly sounds like someone speaking broken english here, but thats all I got.

Posted by igottaknow on Nov-12-2003 21:10:

the extent of my latin is Carpe Diem

Posted by b i n k u n on Nov-12-2003 21:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
eh I forge the whole structure of the language but from an online translator I got these...

abscindo iste acies (open your eyes)

exordium clausula (beginning end, I don't know and the)

I don't know latin and that proly sounds like someone speaking broken english here, but thats all I got.

"exordium et clausula" is what your looking for.

i'm no ace in latin, but a lot depends on the context of what you want to say, since "beginning and the end" could also be translated as "start and the finish" y'kno wut i mean?

Posted by Omegasox on Nov-12-2003 22:11:

quote:
Originally posted by b i n k u n
"exordium et clausula" is what your looking for.

i'm no ace in latin, but a lot depends on the context of what you want to say, since "beginning and the end" could also be translated as "start and the finish" y'kno wut i mean?

Yeah I know exactly what you mean, that's why Latin is so confusing for me. It's in the context of life and death, not start and finish. Does Exordium et Clausula work for that?

Also, I need the word for Absolute in relation to the ultimate basis of all thought & being, independent of everything else.

Thanks for the help guys.

Posted by mezzir on Nov-13-2003 00:15:

hm if life and death then mbbe vitaque mortem?
haven't taken it in a year so i don't remember many good synonyms or anything

Posted by b i n k u n on Nov-13-2003 00:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Omegasox
Yeah I know exactly what you mean, that's why Latin is so confusing for me. It's in the context of life and death, not start and finish. Does Exordium et Clausula work for that?

Also, I need the word for Absolute in relation to the ultimate basis of all thought & being, independent of everything else.

Thanks for the help guys.

haha ok this is a lil' over my head. i'm only on my first semester of latin. hehe sorry

Posted by Spyder on Nov-13-2003 00:46:

quote:
Originally posted by b i n k u n
haha ok this is a lil' over my head. i'm only on my first semester of latin. hehe sorry

ocului tuus aperio = open your eyes..

and yes.. first semester latin here i amm!!!!

Posted by Trazedict on Nov-13-2003 00:59:

im on my second year of latin.. i could help ya but i dont know the words for them. :-D

Posted by Omegasox on Nov-13-2003 01:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Trazedict
im on my second year of latin.. i could help ya but i dont know the words for them. :-D

Bah!

Thanks Spyder!

Posted by mezzir on Nov-13-2003 01:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Spyder

ocului tuus aperio = open your eyes..

and yes.. first semester latin here i amm!!!!

hm...doesn't seem right to me
ocului = dative, or maybe a weird nomative plural which i think is what you want, but then it should be oculi i think
and ocul(w/e) and tuus need to agree
and apperio is the 1st person form, you want imperative
so if you're talking to many people, aperite, one person = aperi (not positive on the singular form there tho)
so hm....
oculi tui aperite = open your eyes (as adressed to the public) as far as i can tell

Posted by meneedit on Nov-13-2003 01:46:

quote:
Originally posted by b i n k u n
"exordium et clausula" is what your looking for.

how the hell can "et" be 2 words!?

Posted by Spyder on Nov-13-2003 01:51:

quote:
Originally posted by meneedit
how the hell can "et" be 2 words!?

just like fama can mean reputation, report, fame.
in can mean in or on..
ad can be to towards or near..
novus is strange or new..

latin just is strange that way

oh btw

-que can also mean and..

Posted by astroboy on Nov-13-2003 02:22:

quote:
Originally posted by meneedit
how the hell can "et" be 2 words!?

What do you mean? It's only one word: "and"

Posted by Delay Llama on Nov-13-2003 02:29:

quote:
Originally posted by astroboy
What do you mean? It's only one word: "and"

I guess it seemed to him that "exordium et clausula" is "what your looking for" and translated literally...

exordium = what
et = you're looking
for = clausula

... even though "you're looking" are 3 words When you're talking about a language that you don't know, you often try to link it to your native language which is a big no no. Just like "tabehajimeru" in Japanese, for example, means "to start to eat": while they're using just one word, its translation to English needs more words.

Posted by Boomer187 on Nov-13-2003 02:58:

[Alex D�sert's voice in swingers] This language is dead anyway. [/Alex D�sert's voice in swingers]

Posted by jinxed84 on Nov-13-2003 03:05:

ahh sometimes i really miss latin. i took latin 1 in highschool. its very helpful with lots of stuff. history languages, polotics.

semper ubi sububi!

Posted by astroboy on Nov-13-2003 03:12:

quote:
Originally posted by jinxed84
ahh sometimes i really miss latin. i took latin 1 in highschool. its very helpful with lots of stuff. history languages, polotics.

semper ubi sububi!

semper ubi sububi ubique!

Posted by mezzir on Nov-13-2003 03:13:

quote:
Originally posted by meneedit
how the hell can "et" be 2 words!?

""exordium et clausula" is what your looking for. "
translation
"exordium et clausula" is the phrase you were looking for, the one that meant "life and death"

Posted by astroboy on Nov-13-2003 03:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Delay Llama
When you're talking about a language that you don't know, you often try to link it to your native language which is a big no no.

Yeah I hate it when peope ask me how to say a sentence in Russian, and I tell them then they're like so word x means this... And you have to explain to them that its not a matter of just translating the words in the same order.

...I thought he meant that "et" = "and the". Which is a silly assumption to make because not all languages have definite and indefinite articles.

Although I'm guilty of the same mistake. I haven't done Latin since school so i'm pretty rusty and when i read "occuli tuus" i instantly thought of it in terms of russian and thought "that's wrong because tuus has to agree with occuli, so should be in the plural"... is that the case btw?

Posted by Omegasox on Nov-13-2003 03:27:

quote:
Originally posted by mezzir
""exordium et clausula" is what your looking for. "
translation
"exordium et clausula" is the phrase you were looking for, the one that meant "life and death"

Does that phrase still hold true for say the beginning and end of all existence? Or is there another phrase for that? I guess life and death would be pretty much the same.

Posted by b i n k u n on Nov-13-2003 03:29:

quote:
Originally posted by meneedit
how the hell can "et" be 2 words!?

haha everyone is getting confused. Boomer posted:

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187

exordium clausula (beginning end, I don't know and the)

i said "exordium ET clausula" is wut ur looking for; in other words, i supplied the "et"

et = and

i assumed "clausula" is in the nominative case, and when translating to english, u can supply "the" for nominatives.