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is it ME or the "E"?

ok well i was just wondering if anyone is going through the same thing that i am when it comes to "e"...i just don't enjoy it any more. i never blow up. it's always just a lingering kinda slugish feeling. i used to have so much energy on the drug and i was so outgoing...now when i roll, i get annoyed when ppl are like all mushy with me...i just wanna come down already. i think maybe i'm just low on "happy juice" lately and under a lot of stress. could that be it? i mean, i'm not depressed every day at all or anything, but i sure do feel like it when i roll. i mean everyone can be depressed, and i'll be the first to admit that i've been on zoloft before because i was in a terrible relationship when i was only 16. anyway, my point is, that i DO have a small history of depression and i've heard that it really isn't a good drug to take if you've been depressed before.
also, i don't think it's the drugs cuz it's been the same shitty feeling like the last 4 times i've rolled and the people i rolled with said they felt great. the last time i got fucked up (you'll get a kick outta this) i took 2 rolls (which were weak for me)...so i decided to take a ritalin (swallowed it whole, not snorted) to speed it up a bit, but then the whole "roll" just died and i was just wired. THEN i ate a green gell tab (acid) and i was like totally functioning. i mean of course i was confused and seeing trails n shit..but my bf was with me and he had taken 2 rolls and 1 acid like me and he was fucking GONE! haha but i could totally still read the computer screen (YES, i was on TA chatroom since it was my first time tripping and didn't want to do it somewhere public...we decided to stay home and trip/roll) and do other things and still think rationally. anyway, when i told some of my friends they were like, "holy fucking shit..that's A LOT of drugs dude" lol maybe i need to take like 3 rolls at once next time??? if there is a next time. i dunno, maybe i'm just burnt out on "e"...it's not what it used to be i think. people are getting stupid with it these days and u never know what you're getting any more.
one more thing. i used to LOVE uppers....like i LOVED coke when i did it the few times and i loved "e" at first...but now i'm starting to really just like that "loaded" feeling. i like xanax now and weed and pain killers like vikadin (NO i do not take this shit regularly..only weed regularly) is this bad? is this some kind of cycle or something? like i'm gonna be an alcoholic or something next? ok i've written a novel...can't wait to hear some of you guys' input


sly

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Originally posted by Viceroy

I got that same expression LOL !
What can I say ... never done it !

Hmmm, i kinda know wot u mean, ive been blamin it on crap pills. You end up takin 2-3 just to get a buzz, never anything lively or rushy. The easy way round it is to take base speed as well, alternatively you could just give it a rest for a while and let your body recouperate.

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Originally posted by Viceroy

i am looking for advice...not some stupid face. what was the point of that?

heres some insight..

Maybe if you lay off the pills for a while your tolerance will have gone back down. But E isn't like every other drug that you gain a tolerance to. For some people it can be their 10th or 100th pill. Then the magic that it once had is gone forever. No matter how much they take they will never have the high they once had. Its like chasing the high when its not there anymore. You used up your seratonin and whatnot. You can't take these things and expect the same good things forever. You've obviously been taking it too much. More than once a month is really too much if you ask me. It should be a mind blowing, self discovering experience. Not something you do every weekend just because its fun and you want to get fucked up. Maybe you should read up on it. http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma.shtml
You should deffinately read these to gain info from people that have used.. http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_MDMA_(Ecstasy).shtml
Read up on ANY drug you take. Not knowing about it is what messes people up and kills/hurts them.
Be informed...know what you're taking and the possible side effects..

wow, I just read yer entire thing....you're using way too much shit man...

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Originally posted by Ripped Bag wow, I just read yer entire thing....you're using way too much shit man...

hehe, that's WOman:P anyway...dont get me wrong...i totally don't do it like u think...like every weekend to get fucked up. my senior year of high school (99-00) was bad. that's when i got into it and did it too much. then i just stopped hanging out with all those "friends" cuz all they did was get fucked up and everything's about money, etc. anyway...i decided to take a long break and didn't roll for months. then when i finally did again..i didn't enjoy it and it's been like that ever since. that time i got messed up on all that shit (the rolls and acid and stuff) was like 2 months ago and that was my first time doing anything (besides weed) in like maybe 2 or 3 months. my bf did "e" for the first time with me recently so of course he's all about doing it more, but i'm not. we are very responsible about drugs. just like once every 2 or 3 months we'll roll. and pretty much whenever i can get some xanax...which isn't very often, i'll grab some. i just like to take xanax to relax cuz i'm an anxious person. i probably need a prescription for it! anyway...i have read a bunch of stuff about "e" on websites and other drugs...i am very well informed..i just wanted some input from you people since a lot of you seem to do "e". i just wanted to know if anyone knows what i mean and if they would share stories as well. i am most likely going to cut out rolling, and remind me never to trip again! haha did i mention coming down that night was literally HELL!? seriously..that is my definition of hell...coming off of 2 rolls and a hit of acid. lol bleh! never again!

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Originally posted by Viceroy

heheheh!! yeah

...sorry, that's too much reading for one go for me heheeheh!!!

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Originally posted by Ripped Bag For some people it can be their 10th or 100th pill. Then the magic that it once had is gone forever. No matter how much they take they will never have the high they once had.

I agree with what Ripped bag just posted, you get to a stage where its just not the same any more. You do more to try and recapture that high but you cant, theres nothing you can do. If you keep pushing it you will only do damage to yourself in the long run. I mean killing alot of seratonin (amongst other things)and end up being on SSRI's (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor) cipramil or similar from the doctor (hmmm now those are rushy hehe). Seriously tho. when you get to the stage where pills arent really having much effect then I think you've done your lot and no matter what you do or how infrequently its never the same. I was similar, I did alot a few yrs ago but havent done much for the last 2-3yrs because I get minimal effect from them, and you are still causing god knows wot side-effects, I still try now and then, maybe once every 3-6 months but the brain will take no more.

yup yup
definitely need a break
i'm kind of on an involuntary break for the summer

I think the building a tolerance to pills is somewhat true but, frankly the pills are not as pure as they used to be. Pills are mixed with all kind of nonsense. I tend to take 1-2 pills of 5htp before and after i drop. Its a supplement sold @ GNC and helps raise your serotonin levels. But, stop mixing all those drugs. U are asking for trouble by doing that. I can tell you from experience its not the thing to do. If u don't roll, just let the night go and relax. There will be others. Doing more never helped anybody roll. Rolling depends also on your mindset. If u drop thinking in the back of your mind that u not gonna roll, then its never going to happen. Maybe ur anxiousness is the culprit here? U need to be patient. Also, when u crash realize the feelings of anxiety are not real. Its just in your head. As long as u know everythings going to be fine, then u shouldn't have a problem.

whats this e thingy yr all talkin about?

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Originally posted by Ripped Bag wow, I just read yer entire thing....you're using way too much shit man...

Two words d00d........Damage Control

I have to agree with everyone here. You've damaged your body enough, find a new high.....life. Go and dance and have a good time, let yourself enough everything without drugs. I went through that exact thing, where I'd get 5 pills to "feel" the same way. I was way too into feeling "that way", that I forgot why I went to the club or party. Now I rarely roll, but when I do it feels "special" again.

There are some over the counter drugs that will help you make seratonin, but ask you doctors first. The last thing you need is to have seratonin syndrone, and not know why? Got that too.

Good luck

Payce

i know everyone will keep saying it and i know youve tried taking a break from the drugs, but i think thats the only way to do it, try taking a longer break if possible. also, this sounds cheesy, but you need to 'free your mind' of the fact that theyre not working. thats why some people have problems coming up off pills, because they think about it too much. when i drop, i just drop and then deliberately completely forget that ive done it, that way when you come up it hits you good. hope this helps ya!


RR

Re: is it ME or the "E"?

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Originally posted by Slylee ok well i was just wondering if anyone is going through the same thing that i am when it comes to "e"...i just don't enjoy it any more. i never blow up. it's always just a lingering kinda slugish feeling. i used to have so much energy on the drug and i was so outgoing...now when i roll, i get annoyed when ppl are like all mushy with me...i just wanna come down already. i think maybe i'm just low on "happy juice" lately and under a lot of stress. could that be it? i mean, i'm not depressed every day at all or anything, but i sure do feel like it when i roll. i mean everyone can be depressed, and i'll be the first to admit that i've been on zoloft before because i was in a terrible relationship when i was only 16. anyway, my point is, that i DO have a small history of depression and i've heard that it really isn't a good drug to take if you've been depressed before. also, i don't think it's the drugs cuz it's been the same shitty feeling like the last 4 times i've rolled and the people i rolled with said they felt great. the last time i got fucked up (you'll get a kick outta this) i took 2 rolls (which were weak for me)...so i decided to take a ritalin (swallowed it whole, not snorted) to speed it up a bit, but then the whole "roll" just died and i was just wired. THEN i ate a green gell tab (acid) and i was like totally functioning. i mean of course i was confused and seeing trails n shit..but my bf was with me and he had taken 2 rolls and 1 acid like me and he was fucking GONE! haha but i could totally still read the computer screen (YES, i was on TA chatroom since it was my first time tripping and didn't want to do it somewhere public...we decided to stay home and trip/roll) and do other things and still think rationally. anyway, when i told some of my friends they were like, "holy fucking shit..that's A LOT of drugs dude" lol maybe i need to take like 3 rolls at once next time??? if there is a next time. i dunno, maybe i'm just burnt out on "e"...it's not what it used to be i think. people are getting stupid with it these days and u never know what you're getting any more. one more thing. i used to LOVE uppers....like i LOVED coke when i did it the few times and i loved "e" at first...but now i'm starting to really just like that "loaded" feeling. i like xanax now and weed and pain killers like vikadin (NO i do not take this shit regularly..only weed regularly) is this bad? is this some kind of cycle or something? like i'm gonna be an alcoholic or something next? ok i've written a novel...can't wait to hear some of you guys' input sly

I hear ya sly, same problem here...well I am not getting annoyed but I am not rolling like I used to. I "was" doing it too often, like almost every weekend.

i hear ya sly..
i'm startingto get at that stage... and am going to take a break from the pills for a while... i think a few months should do it, and then hopefully my rolls will feel "special" again

tolerance is probably the main reason but shitty pills also play a part....I hadn't rolled for about a month, before i was every weekend, and just this past weekend i did and man...l......I was fuckoed...lol..just take a break!!

Personally I find it hard to go to the club and be feeling the music all night without some outside help. Drinks, Ephedrine or E as of last night. E will be reserved for big events tho. Im no e-tard. But before I started to experiment with Ephedrine, I had no problem dancing all night. Now I cant. Even if I try really hard.

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Originally posted by j_spot Personally I find it hard to go to the club and be feeling the music all night without some outside help. Drinks, Ephedrine or E as of last night. E will be reserved for big events tho. Im no e-tard. But before I started to experiment with Ephedrine, I had no problem dancing all night. Now I cant. Even if I try really hard.

Next time take a full pill, then you'll go buck nuts all night.

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Originally posted by Tap Next time take a full pill, then you'll go buck nuts all night.

w3rd to big bird

u really are trying to corrupt me arent you!

no....
*whispering in j's ear*
take the blue pills...

I dunno bout blue..I kinda liked that red last night

damn... those red pills were something else...
and green too

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