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Posted by Phantax on Nov-16-2003 06:22:

Smiling Frog Logic Audio... a few small things

All of the songs I have made so far seem to lag hard... I guess I'm experiencing latency, but I'm pretty new to production and I'm not sure what's going on really... I know I need to fix this somehow but I wouldn't know the first way or place to correct latency problems using Logic.

I'm using a Delta 44 soundcard and my driver tabs are set up properly



I want my hi hats or snares to come in quickly but when I reduce them to 32nd notes that only chops them down and plays the first bit but cuts off the tail. I guess I've found out the wrong way to speed up percussion. The only way they play properly is if I open them up to 16th notes or larger but that automatically slows the tempo of them down right away and ther is no room to push them together to boost the speed.



I'm not really sure how to begin a session tempo wise. Should I choose my tempo first and then try and work on something or work on something and then choose the tempo later. I'm mostly struggling with intros for my songs that would be at a completely different tempo (slower) than the main riff and middle sections of my song. How can I have the 1st section at 120 bpm and the middle at a different tempo? How is that done?

Thanx =)


Posted by Damie Mckeown on Nov-16-2003 09:09:

Humm, your soundcard is a hell of alot better than mine so i dont know if it would be that, all I can think is that maybe your samples have a small gap in the wav before it plays


Posted by iLLicit on Nov-16-2003 12:01:

Why would you ever speed up the tempo of a track? Don't think many djs will like you if you do that...


Posted by Phantax on Nov-16-2003 12:41:

How do I change the tempos properly?


And Im not using wavs


Posted by Phantax on Nov-16-2003 23:29:


Posted by Chris Creator on Nov-16-2003 23:32:

To change the tempo through a song you would use automation.


Posted by Phantax on Nov-17-2003 02:38:

Can you explain how chris?


Posted by Phantax on Nov-19-2003 01:08:

Anybody home?


Posted by Chris Creator on Nov-19-2003 03:12:

Sorry dude I don't use logic. But just look up automation in the logic help menu.


Posted by xfer on Nov-19-2003 07:13:

By default logic has the latency set to 50ms wich is not good. Goto audio/audio prefs/audio driver 2 tab make shure you selected asio. Click control panel and set latency to 2ms if you get pops just raise it alittle. That will fix the latency


Posted by Phantax on Nov-19-2003 07:32:

^ Yeah that's probably a part of it for sure.. I forgot I hadn't changed that in awhile... But as I return there now when I click on the control panel nothing happens whatsoever... That box that's supposed to pop up, simpley doesn't. Any ideas?


Posted by Phantax on Nov-20-2003 03:39:

control panel doesn't pop up... any help with that?


Posted by DJ Tequila on Nov-20-2003 12:24:

There should be an icon in the taskbar for your M Audio Delta soundcard settings. Unless you're using a Mac.

Try re-installing your drivers.

As for your initial rhythm problem, it doesn't sound like a latency issue. Set 'release' to maximum in your sampler, and you'll be able to use short notes while hearing the whole sample. What plug-in or device are you using to play your hi-hats? It may require a different approach.

T*


Posted by Phantax on Nov-20-2003 21:32:

EXS24 II I think...


I don't like it very much


Posted by DJ Tequila on Nov-20-2003 22:35:

You need to go to the EXS24 instrument page, (the one with the knobs and sliders) and ser the 'R' slider on 'ENV2' to maximum. This'll allow each sound to complete before while the next is playing.

Taking the attack up ('A') a small amount can make the hi-hat sound smoother, while taking the 'S' down will make it shorter. Have a play with these sliders - you'll ahve to become very familiar with them if you want to synthesize sounds! They are:

Attack (the initial impact of a sound)
Decay (The time taken to reach the resonant level of sound)
Sustain (The length of time the sound resonates for)
Release (The tail of the sound)

They control the volume over time, and help you shape sounds to fit the 'envelope' of something struck, plucked, bowed... Or help you create unnatural sounds that increase in volume slowly over time, for example.

Give us a shout if you need more help!

T*



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