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Headphone & cartridge recommendations?

Ok my needle has died on me and it's time to buy a quality one, rather than this Stanton one that only lasted me less than 1-2 months...

Are Ortofon Concorde cartidges any good? how reliable are they? and are their any other good ones out there at a reasonable price Also how long do Ortofons last for?


Now to headphones, ok my headphones are too funny to explain, they are shocking, it's worse than discman earphones (well not really, but you get the picture)... Now what's a decent headphone good for all occasions?? and one that will last me

Cheers,
Mehran

i use

shure whitelabels
less tear on your records and good sound quality





info: http://www.needlz.com/news/rv_whitelabel_2tt.asp

also there is a thread about this
in the DJ booth section.

i got a pair for $370
but i think grooveypants (andrew) got them for 345/350 at central station rec.

hope that helps
-Rob

Re: Headphone & cartridge recommendations?

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Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis Ok my needle has died on me and it's time to buy a quality one, rather than this Stanton one that only lasted me less than 1-2 months... Are Ortofon Concorde cartidges any good? how reliable are they? and are their any other good ones out there at a reasonable price Also how long do Ortofons last for? Cheers, Mehran

Check out the other forums (the dj 1), this question comes up like every day Ortfon Concorde cartridges are the best for trance IMHO [sound range, tracking, anti skating, weight etc] The shures are the best if you wanna scratch, but the skating and weight will wear your records out faster. Check out the dj forums tho, read it all in there

My pair (Ortfon Concord Nightclub E) cost $540 in the kit almsot a year ago.

--djway

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Originally posted by djway Ortfon Concorde cartridges are the best for trance IMHO [sound range, tracking, anti skating, weight etc] The shures are the best if you wanna scratch, but the skating and weight will wear your records out faster. Check out the dj forums tho, read it all in there My pair (Ortfon Concord Nightclub E) cost $540 in the kit almsot a year ago. --djway

I disagree. My opinion = Shure Whitelabels are cream of the crop, and many people think the ortofons are overrated... if you want something cheaper, the Shure M44G is apparrantly a really good buy! Not to be confused with the Shure M447 which is the scratching version.

btw if you are really serious about researching headphones, check out the headphones thread in the DJ Booth forum, and post some of your queries there!

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Originally posted by Rememberence_ I disagree. My opinion = Shure Whitelabels are cream of the crop, and many people think the ortofons are overrated... if you want something cheaper, the Shure M44G is apparrantly a really good buy! Not to be confused with the Shure M447 which is the scratching version. btw if you are really serious about researching headphones, check out the headphones thread in the DJ Booth forum, and post some of your queries there!

Wow, they are pretty equal! (I suggest you get both and have a play around). 1st time I've looked into it personally Value for money would have to go to the whitelablel, looks the concordes

Shure Whitelabel:-
Frequency Response
- 20-20,000Hz
Typical Tracking Force
- 2 grams
Tracking Force Range
- 1.5-3 grams


Ortofon Concorde Nightclub E:-
Frequency range at - 3dB
20-22.000 Hz
Frequency response
20-20.000 Hz � 2 dB
Tracking force range
2,0-5,0 g (20-50 mN)
Tracking force, recommended
3,0 g (30 mN)

--djway

I have Ortofon, cant remember what model, they were about $100 each just for the stylus.

I have no problems with them, they are pretty good, not the best for scratching, but great for trance. Really good sound and ive had them for well over 6months now! So they last a while

I use shure whitelabels, They are good cartridges, good sound quality, stylii have lasted me about 2-3 months so far and they dont need changing (usually with stantons id be buying packs of stylii every 3/4 months) yet. However they are expensive, and if you dont have the money then id stick with the stantons for another few months and save up. I got my whitelabels for 330 for the pair.

Headphones, I use pioneer hdj1000s. Really comfy phones, priced relatively nicely, i got mine for 240. However before that i was using 60 dollar sony's and again unless youve got the cash available or your in a huge rush because you need to play out somewhere, then i wouldnt bother. Of course the sound is a lot better on the Pioneers, and the noise cancellation is a lot better, but if they are just for home use then thats not overly important imo.

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Originally posted by escee I use shure whitelabels, They are good cartridges, good sound quality, stylii have lasted me about 2-3 months so far and they dont need changing (usually with stantons id be buying packs of stylii every 3/4 months) yet. However they are expensive, and if you dont have the money then id stick with the stantons for another few months and save up. I got my whitelabels for 330 for the pair. Headphones, I use pioneer hdj1000s. Really comfy phones, priced relatively nicely, i got mine for 240. However before that i was using 60 dollar sony's and again unless youve got the cash available or your in a huge rush because you need to play out somewhere, then i wouldnt bother. Of course the sound is a lot better on the Pioneers, and the noise cancellation is a lot better, but if they are just for home use then thats not overly important imo.

Spot on.

I too use both the white labels and the HDJ1000s.

The sound on the Shure's are very clean and indeed provide less tear on your vinyls.
And the good thing I like about the 1000's are that they are very flexible, and you could pretty much have them placed in any way you like, without straining them!

I got my pair for $340 as Rob said, but that was in August - you should be able to get them for about $300 now? And the Pioneers, use your bargining skills with Central Station, they should do them for about $200 - 220.

I use Ortofon Concorde DJ E, I think they are about $180 each, they are not quite as good as the Nightclubs but I can't justify spending another 50-60 per cart for a relatively small increase in performance. They sound good and they track well.

Headphones, I have Sennheiser HD25's, they sound incredible and kill an insane amount of external sound.

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Originally posted by escee I use shure whitelabels, They are good cartridges, good sound quality, stylii have lasted me about 2-3 months so far and they dont need changing (usually with stantons id be buying packs of stylii every 3/4 months) yet. However they are expensive, and if you dont have the money then id stick with the stantons for another few months and save up. I got my whitelabels for 330 for the pair. Headphones, I use pioneer hdj1000s. Really comfy phones, priced relatively nicely, i got mine for 240. However before that i was using 60 dollar sony's and again unless youve got the cash available or your in a huge rush because you need to play out somewhere, then i wouldnt bother. Of course the sound is a lot better on the Pioneers, and the noise cancellation is a lot better, but if they are just for home use then thats not overly important imo.

Cool, well i'm going to use the headphones for all rounders, club and home... so i should go with Pioneers Hdj1000s? Also has one got a pic of this headphone?


Now the shure whitelabels, Do CSR have these? how much are the stylii once they actually wear out?

Because even though my Stanton one is still under warrenty, they still said no in replacing the stylii. They said it would cost 80 bucks for the Stanton stylii...Now the first Stanton stylii i had only lasted a week , so i have to try and pick a whole cartridge and stylii that will last me more than that

Thanx everyone, much appreciated

Time to go shopping

i use and recommend shure whitelabels

replacements are $76 here.. mine have lasted about 6-8 months so far.. they have taken quite a beating too.. i get clumsy sometimes :P

CSR have both the headphones and Whitelabels.

Thanks everyone for all your help...tomorrow i will go to CSR and try to buy the shure whitelabels and the pioneer headphones.

Today i was just researching them in more depth, reading reviews and stuff and they seem to be making everyone happy so i guess thats my purchase.

Thanx again

btw the pioneer headphones look awesome!

havent read most of the above.

but i have Ortofon concords the cheapeast ones $300 for the pair..

havent had a problem at all! quality is tops! awsome awsome stuff!

when it comes to headphones.. you can't beat sennheiser

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Originally posted by j�c� when it comes to headphones.. you can't beat sennheiser

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Originally posted by waXology havent read most of the above. but i have Ortofon concords the cheapeast ones $300 for the pair.. havent had a problem at all! quality is tops! awsome awsome stuff!

Your talking about the ones on the Vinyl Warning site??

forgot to mension

headphones

i prefer
technics 1210!
(silver!)

no pix sorry try www.google.com

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Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis Your talking about the ones on the Vinyl Warning site??

Here's my babies.

--djway

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Originally posted by djway Here's my babies. --djway

You know thats the EXACT same needles that caught my eye a few days ago, but never knew if they were any good..



Do they come with 2 extra styliis????

How much??

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Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis You know thats the EXACT same needles that caught my eye a few days ago, but never knew if they were any good..

Looking @ reviews, they are the pissiest bit better in frequency responce @ +2db.

Hearsay (which I've believed), says that eliptical needles are better for trance, due to the main frequencies???

They're really good needles. They were for a LONG time regarded as the best needles till the whitelabels came along. I wonder how they'll stand the test of time.

--djway

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Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis Do they come with 2 extra styliis???? How much??

Yeah they do.

The saving is worth it, I remembered that much....let me dig around for the price I payed almost a year ago (There's a chance they've come down).

$540 was what I payed.

--djway

till the whitelabels came along??? so you think i should go ahead with the purchase of the whitelabels tomorrow??? cause by everyones reviews and stuff, whitelabels become a sure winner.

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Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis till the whitelabels came along??? so you think i should go ahead with the purchase of the whitelabels tomorrow??? cause by everyones reviews and stuff, whitelabels become a sure winner.

Personally, and this is me. I'd stick with the Ortofon's they look a shitload better, are the smallest bit better in range, and come in a kit.

the whitelabels ARE the in thing ATM. Who's to say the cart doesn't fuck up in a year (IE they're dodgy)...no one knows that as they haven't been out for a year. They're still a lil new for me to suggest.

--djway

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Originally posted by djway Personally, and this is me. I'd stick with the Ortofon's they look a shitload better, are the smallest bit better in range, and come in a kit. the whitelabels ARE the in thing ATM. Who's to say the cart doesn't fuck up in a year (IE they're dodgy)...no one knows that as they haven't been out for a year. They're still a lil new for me to suggest. --djway

Oh!, damn now i'm in a bad situation.

Well alot of people have been telling me to get these Ortofons your recommending too with no complaints, also the same level of great feedback for the whitelabels...now i don't know which to get

How long have you had your Ortofons for, any complaints??

Where does it get sold?

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