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Posted by butterfly on Nov-18-2003 00:15:

organic food shopping

do you eat organic? i recently moved in with my bf and he likes to eat organic and since he is the one who cooks we buy organic. am not sure i get the point but it tastes good i guess (though i think that is his cooking). what do you all think about this organic craze?

Posted by UglyDave on Nov-18-2003 00:17:

dont really have an awful lot of variety where i live, but it's getting better..

usually just take what you're given

Posted by Fundamental on Nov-18-2003 00:17:

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Originally posted by butterfly
do you eat organic?

No. I'm normal...

Posted by igottaknow on Nov-18-2003 00:18:

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Originally posted by butterfly
do you eat organic? i recently moved in with my bf and he likes to eat organic and since he is the one who cooks we buy organic. am not sure i get the point but it tastes good i guess (though i think that is his cooking). what do you all think about this organic craze?

i dont buy it much but thats cause im a cheap bastard, but organic is better cause it usually means no pestisides or hormones which are associated with long term health risks and are bad for the environment.

Posted by butterfly on Nov-18-2003 00:19:

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Originally posted by igottaknow
i dont buy it much but thats cause im a cheap bastard, but organic is better cause it usually means no pestisides or hormones which are associated with long term health risks and are bad for the environment.

what, specifically? i am not convinced. my 90 year old grandma never ate organic.

Posted by UglyDave on Nov-18-2003 00:25:

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Originally posted by butterfly
what, specifically? i am not convinced. my 90 year old grandma never ate organic.

that reminds me of a friend om mines grandparents. they're both about 75 / 80.

both still as healthy / happy / fit as ever. up until about 2-3 years ago they owned and ran a fully functional farm.

As they celebrated their 60th wedding, a tribute video was made about the couple. Woman said that in her entire lifetime, she's only ever taken 1 pill (a painkiller or something)

it's amazing to see how some people who've worked so hard in their life, and at such an old age they're still as active as ever.

Posted by wienerschnitzel on Nov-18-2003 00:26:

but your 90 yr old grandma never ate fast food everyday and stockpiled on junkfood and all the other mass produced preservative foods. I wish i ate organic but i am also a cheap bastard. If you can, then good on ya!

Posted by igottaknow on Nov-18-2003 00:27:

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Originally posted by butterfly
what, specifically? i am not convinced. my 90 year old grandma never ate organic.
they didnt use as many pestisides back then. An example of such an effect is plummeting sperm count for males (which scientist hypothosize is from chemical environmental factors). Since i worked on a farm i have an idea what gets put on ur food and outside the usa dangerous banned pestisides are often used.

Posted by butterfly on Nov-18-2003 00:27:

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Originally posted by wienerschnitzel
but your 90 yr old grandma never ate fast food everyday and stockpiled on junkfood and all the other mass produced preservative foods. I wish i ate organic but i am also a cheap bastard. If you can, then good on ya!

actually, my grandparents eat more fast food than i do.

Posted by butterfly on Nov-18-2003 00:28:

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Originally posted by igottaknow
they didnt use as many pestisides back then. An example of such an effect is plummeting sperm count for males (which scientist hypothosize is from chemical environmental factors). Since i worked on a farm i have an idea what gets put on ur food and outside the usa dangerous banned pestisides are often used.

so knowing what they put on it would you be more liekly to eat organic?

Posted by igottaknow on Nov-18-2003 00:31:

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Originally posted by butterfly
so knowing what they put on it would you be more liekly to eat organic?

yep, i do sometimes, but like i said i can be lazy or cheap.

oh while thinking about what u eat check this out http://www.themeatrix.com/

Posted by butterfly on Nov-18-2003 00:36:

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Originally posted by igottaknow
yep, i do sometimes, but like i said i can be lazy or cheap.

oh while thinking about what u eat check this out http://www.themeatrix.com/

that was cute!

Posted by netw3rkd on Nov-18-2003 01:42:

technically isnt all food organic since it is living?

or was living...fuck i dunno

Posted by Beat_Chemist on Nov-18-2003 02:16:

THere are standards as to what can and cannot be categorized as organic. Most of the times tho its hella overpriced almost like putting a Gucci label on a pair of jeans. Where I live you get ragged on for not buying local, or organic. Or being vegan, I choose to give them a big Texan Middle finger. If I had to choose i'd def. go organic but I don't have that much money. Organic does taste better in certain foods others it doesn't make a shit of difference. Eggs is one, crack it open and you'll see an almost orange yolk I think it has a healthier higher fat content. Bellpeppers and other vegi's tastes the same as non organic. Milk there is a huge difference. Beer there's a diff. but I don't think its due to the grains, rather the fact that the if the masterbrewer put that much care into selecting organic grains he would prolly take equal care into brewing his beer. This translates to a lot of organic foods, not raw ingredients. Orga. cookies are dank shit, Organic Weed is awesome, Organic usually means more loves been put into the product.

Posted by MERTON on Nov-18-2003 02:52:

too damn expensive!!!

Posted by Dmatrox on Nov-18-2003 02:58:

i don't prefer one over the other, food is food.

Posted by Mr Game+Watch on Nov-18-2003 04:23:

It's more expensive, but pesticide free fruits and vegetables are definitely the way to go... After reading "Fast Food Nation" and seeing what goes into certain foodstuffs I try to get as much organic/all natural food as I can...

Posted by ali92 on Nov-18-2003 15:53:

Posted by monoxide on Nov-18-2003 16:46:

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Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch
It's more expensive, but pesticide free fruits and vegetables are definitely the way to go... After reading "Fast Food Nation" and seeing what goes into certain foodstuffs I try to get as much organic/all natural food as I can...

i was reading the thread and only from your post i've understood what this organic thing is... now believe me or not, but here where i live, free-pesticide vegies and fruits are cheaper than those big and good looking +pesticide+ ones... for eg apples [nice, sweet etc] cost aprox 1.5-2�, then 'organic' ones 0.5�, the same with everything...

and another thing... i don't think there are any "fast food" things left in Lithuania... the only one is McDonald's (3 in all LTU) with aprox 27million � loss every year [they promissed to shut all 3 of them down next year, as the government put +1/3 (33% higher)taxes]...
so i guess i have my healthy nutrition as far...

Posted by butterfly on Nov-18-2003 16:47:

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Originally posted by monoxide
i was reading the thread and only from your post i've understood what this organic thing is... now believe me or not, but here where i live, free-pesticide vegies and fruits are cheaper than those big and good looking +pesticide+ ones... for eg apples [nice, sweet etc] cost aprox 1.5-2�, then 'organic' ones 0.5�, the same with everything...

and another thing... i don't think there are any "fast food" things left in Lithuania... the only one is McDonald's (3 in all LTU) with aprox 27million � loss every year [they promissed to shut all 3 of them down next year, as the government put +1/3 (33% higher)taxes]...
so i guess i have my healthy nutrition as far...

i bet you have clean air too... sweet.

Posted by monoxide on Nov-18-2003 16:55:

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Originally posted by butterfly
i bet you have clean air too... sweet.

it's kinnda clean... the biggest city is the capital [where i live] Vilnius has 750 000 residents (less than a million)... so it's not quite possible to create a smog [or smth like that] with the cars and factories we have...

move to LTU butterfly, i'll show you around

Posted by Arbiter on Nov-18-2003 16:59:

There is virtually no evidence of a causal link between "organic" foods and better health. As far as I can see, it's really just a scam. But hey, it's your money - knock yourself out.

Best Wishes,

Arbiter

Posted by occrider on Nov-18-2003 17:07:

I don't like to eat anything that hasn't been genetically modified. Something cools got to happen to me eventually ... hopefully I won't get sissy powers like jubilee.

Posted by butterfly on Nov-18-2003 17:10:

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Originally posted by Arbiter
There is virtually no evidence of a causal link between "organic" foods and better health. As far as I can see, it's really just a scam. But hey, it's your money - knock yourself out.

Best Wishes,

Arbiter

can you post that data please?

Posted by biznology on Nov-18-2003 17:46:

its also interesting to note how foods or related products with 'natural' flavorings are often less beneficial - as scientists who engineer 'artificial' flavorings do so by making the flavor, minus the toxic naturally occuring elements of those flavorings.

as for organic, i dont really mind it. i would eat it, but not purchase it as Whole Foods and other big box stores masquerading as something 'better' give me the shakes.

its just a sad state in society where we have so much food that we can get picky about it. and whhen the very thing that sustains us is deemed bad. (unless its 'organic' of course)

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