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what i want is what i cant have
anyone ever notice this? im sure it doesnt just apply to me...it applies to everything tho...i want it cause i cant have it or cause its a real hard challenge to get...then once i obtain it..i dont care abt it no more...goes with everything from women to materialistic things...so i started thinking what happens when i finally get everything i want...what then? will there be a point to living for me? since right now my whole point of existence is to get these things that are nearly impossible to get...hmmm.......makes u wonder....
Happiness comes inside out, that's why 
I was going to give a rather long explanation on this, but I don't know if this is a serious thread, and I wouldn't like to spoil the joke if it is one 
actually its not a joke just a random thought...thought i should share so ppl could discuss....so go ahead and post ur explanation id love to hear it
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| Originally posted by Delay Llama Happiness comes inside out, that's why I was going to give a rather long explanation on this, but I don't know if this is a serious thread, and I wouldn't like to spoil the joke if it is one |
I have pretty much everything I want.
happiness stems from beer and genital stimulation however one gets that. Some people may disagree, but they are the same people who blush when someone says "masturbate", pansies.
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| Originally posted by Orbax happiness stems from beer and genital stimulation however one gets that. Some people may disagree, but they are the same people who blush when someone says "masturbate", pansies. |
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| Originally posted by Orbax happiness stems from beer and genital stimulation however one gets that. Some people may disagree, but they are the same people who blush when someone says "masturbate", pansies. |
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| Originally posted by DJ-Fuq wanker |
Everything in life is like a little challange, they all differ in depths.. like for example, the chase of a girl, getting her and all... its much better when you have something to work for.
you pretty much know this.. but im not sure what you wanted to discuss about?
We all have things that we hold dear to us, we value those things because it has taken strength to achive for example goals of education, for sum marriage, and for sum getting a house and family...
Life will never end, if we would be immortal, thats why we must die one day, and the choices we make now are what determines what sort of life we will live, it might not be the best.. but it is yours, and nothing can take that away from us.
Yeah, well, kinda logical. When you have something, there's no need for wanting it. When you don't have something, wanting it gives you a reason to gain it.
Thats probably why there's a saying "You always want what you cant have".
Still, it's good to want things you haven't got, it gives you something to aim for. As for getting everything you want, very few people actually do, so I dont think you'll have to worry about that.
All right then, Vivid, there you go And, Orbax, if you don't mind, I'm gonna use your example
When you get happiness from drinking beer for example, this satisfaction is just temporary because of a simple reason: Beer is finite and you can't be drunk forever. I realise this sounds obvious, but people are bound to forget it because of the pleasure they get from it. Once you drink the content inside the bottle, there's no more beer (unless you obviously buy more, but let's think of the worst case scenario here, in which you've got no money either). What happens? Hangover, and the problem now is that there's no more beer for you to be drunk again and forget/ignore the pain. This way, pleasure led to pain.
If you realise that beer will lead you to pain, you won't drink it. You'll realise that we don't have control on the things we can touch: we can control the way we feel things though (this is why happiness comes inside in). Parents, girls, cars,... they don't belong to you, and you can lose them (hence you can't get real pleasure FROM them, since they're not part of you and may be gone one day).
(I've got to go now but I'll be back with the second part of it in a couple of hours if there's any doubt or misunderstanding due to my English and hurry ).
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| Originally posted by Omegasox Are you Buddhist by chance? |
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| Originally nicked from buddhanet.net In one way being a Buddhist means belonging to a particular community of people and following a path of life taught by the Buddhas (enlightened beings). Members of the Buddhist community are formally joined by taking refuge in the Buddha, the Dharma (the teaching) and the Sangha (the community of noble disciples). |
True happiness is not in the action of obtaining that which you want.
True happiness is in the journey in reaching your life's goals.
How 'bout them apples for deep thought, eh?
we always want what we can't have and the harder it is to get something, the more we want it... and when we finally get it, we usually lose interest.
but yes, the chase is better than the catch (ah, scooter lyrics :haha
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| Originally posted by Delay Llama When you get happiness from drinking beer for example, this satisfaction is just temporary because of a simple reason: Beer is finite and you can't be drunk forever. I realise this sounds obvious, but people are bound to forget it because of the pleasure they get from it. Once you drink the content inside the bottle, there's no more beer (unless you obviously buy more, but let's think of the worst case scenario here, in which you've got no money either). What happens? Hangover, and the problem now is that there's no more beer for you to be drunk again and forget/ignore the pain. This way, pleasure led to pain. |
the want of more is in our nature as humans, we are afterall hunter gatherers, less and more extreem with the variety of today but we have come from an evolution of the condition.
As this is our nature, the pursuit therefore is of the happiness rather than the goal itself.
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| Originally posted by Orbax I have pretty much everything I want. happiness stems from beer and genital stimulation however one gets that. Some people may disagree, but they are the same people who blush when someone says "masturbate", pansies. |
You probably feel that way for several reasons, a lot of which Delay Llama already mentioned.
One of the reasons why the "chase", adequately put, is more desirable than, perhaps the "catch", is the stimulation and motivation behind the chase itself. In attempting to obtain something beyond your reach, you are filled with motivation, because you want something, need something. The desire to have something can be so blinding that you do things that you would not ordinarily do.
In the process of "chasing", a person can be so filled with excitement and joy, that once finally reaching the goal, the person can be disappointed, and disregard and cast away what they had worked so hard to get to in the first place.
Mankind's thought it simple, to go for the goal, so to speak. Most people are raised by the thought process that they can get better, that they deserve better, so automatically, stimulii is produced. Once we have gained control over our desire, we no longer lust for it, because we know there is something better, more desirable, less obtainable.
Unfortunately, this can lead many people to misery, because they could reach a point where there is nothing left for them to yearn for. Ultimately, this leads to one point, to find peace and happiness from within (as already previously stated). By finding peace from within, however, that doesn't mean that you would lose all motivation for the chase, no no. This means that you would bypass the misery if the chase perhaps takes too long, or ends abruptly.
My 2 cents
it's just that people have dreams and when they find their dreams, they don't know what to do with them, that's whey they're kinda disappointed. but for the most part it's the fact that once you achieve your dream, you're done, you don't have your dream anymore to look forward to. that's the problem... unless you know what to do with your dream and how to enjoy it
Btw, whiskers, love the new avatar and sig! 
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| Originally posted by anuneventrade Btw, whiskers, love the new avatar and sig! |
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| Originally posted by whiskers thanks, i think i'm gonna rotate the strips and the expressions... calvin is the man and reminds me of myself so much! |
Psh DL, youve never drank good stuff then. I just deleted my explanation of why your little theory is wrong, but it is. If this has been youre experience, youre doing it wrong. Really wrong.
and so far beer has been infinite for me
eric, just because you can't have me, doesn't mean u should start a thread and whine about it
on a different note...i'm a big calvin & hobbes fan too i have pretty much every single book of them including all the special editions. i used to read them all the time when i was like 10.
just like they say... watch out, you might just get what you're after...
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