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"Violence is better and more appropriate than sex."
I don't get it.
To elaborate: One of my friends is an artist, but refuses to even speak or think about sex. On the other hand, it's perfectly okay to draw violence or people being bound and tortured. Huh? Maybe it has to do more with the religion, though. (Mormon) Or the country. (America) Or both.
Where do these principles stem from? It seems kind of funny that inflicting pain on someone is more acceptable than one or more people enjoying sex.
they stem from media...
cos sex is too complicated..u know u MUST have protection etc.
meanwhile theres no remedy/cautionm for violence...anyone and everyone can partake no problem....
maybe it's cause he cant get any.
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| Originally posted by butterfly maybe it's cause he cant get any. |
I could go on town with this one, since i hate the way that movies are rated in the us.. but i will just leave it as a 
Tell her to get some red bull...
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| Originally posted by drizzt81 I could go on town with this one, since i hate the way that movies are rated in the us.. but i will just leave it as a |
i think most of US society has that view. i don't understand it either.. sex is much better than violence.. at least it's friendly! 
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| Originally posted by Orbax im bored go for it, see if we can get an argu..discussion going |
i totally agree, and think America is fucked up and repressed sexually. Id be pissed if I were a woman. I was thinking the other day that women should be allowed to go topless if they damn well want to. I would rather see that than some fat ass hairy dude spilling his lard all over the sand. I love having my shirt off, and its sad that guys are so sexually fucked up that THEIR crude thoughts make it so women cant express themselves or feel comfortable.
A lot of guys have bigger titties than a lot of girls, and they dont get called lewd or anything lol. I think a lot of men have a lot of growing up to do.
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| Originally posted by Orbax I was thinking the other day that women should be allowed to go topless if they damn well want to. |
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I would rather see that than some fat ass hairy dude spilling his lard all over the sand. |
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I love having my shirt off, and its sad that guys are so sexually fucked up that THEIR crude thoughts make it so women cant express themselves or feel comfortable. A lot of guys have bigger titties than a lot of girls, and they dont get called lewd or anything lol. I think a lot of men have a lot of growing up to do. |
some religions see sex as something "dirty"... as for violence, it has become somthing so common in our society that we have become desensatized to it.
that's waht the problem is here.. the damn puritans are tryin' to take over.. i mean sheesh!!! you can't even do oral if your in the military and gays can't even mary.. what the hell business is it of their's? the problem is people like to control people! i hate that!
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| Originally posted by MERTON that's waht the problem is here.. the damn puritans are tryin' to take over.. i mean sheesh!!! you can't even do oral if your in the military and gays can't even mary.. what the hell business is it of their's? the problem is people like to control people! i hate that! |
i don't know what thier problem is because if that person decides that it is not ok to talk about sex then they should ALSO decide that it is ok not to talk about violence. It is pretty cheap to suggest that violence is ok but sex isn't. That is messed up. Tell your friend "what does your church teach about violence, and violence in the media, does it support it?" if he says yes then he is off his bloody rocker, i'll tell you that much. Then remind him that "even mormons have sex, yes, you wait until you are married but then then you have LOTS of sex and LOTS of childern so don't tell me that sex is bad and needs to be kept hush hush". If he trys to argue then he is dumb. Tell him another mormon said this to you.
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| Originally posted by wienerschnitzel i don't know what thier problem is because if that person decides that it is not ok to talk about sex then they should ALSO decide that it is ok not to talk about violence. It is pretty cheap to suggest that violence is ok but sex isn't. That is messed up. Tell your friend "what does your church teach about violence, and violence in the media, does it support it?" if he says yes then he is off his bloody rocker, i'll tell you that much. Then remind him that "even mormons have sex, yes, you wait until you are married but then then you have LOTS of sex and LOTS of childern so don't tell me that sex is bad and needs to be kept hush hush". If he trys to argue then he is dumb. Tell him another mormon said this to you. |
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| Originally posted by MERTON you go rambly lie-y girl!! |
you said to tell them a morman told you to... you promoted lying... i was just trying to be funny and not bored.
how am i lieing, i am mormon 
you are? hmmm.. maybe i skimmed through that too fast... are you mean too? do you put needles in the tounges of babies that cry like the mormons on t.v.?
do you take supplements and use a pump to make your dick bigger?
North America is in general a much more socially old-fashioned and puritanical place than many other nations of the world. A lot of people in America especially hold on to conservative christian values in which sex, especially before marriage, is really discouraged, which i agree is total bullshit. War and violence have always been a big part of American life (watch "Bowling for Columbine") so I guess that's why it's worked into their society as being so much more acceptable than sex. But the irony is that violence is what kids are being shown all the time on TV, then Americans wonder why kids snap and sometimes go on killing sprees. If they showed more sex on TV, I'm certain that sort of thing would happen a fraction of the time that it does now.
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This website is the funniest shit ever.
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news...evolutions.html
Oh yeah, my friend is a girl, though that doesn't really change much, I guess.
You almost made me laugh when you said war and violence are a big part of "american" life. Bullshit, plain and simple. Since the civil war there hasn't been a war waged on american soil. How is war a part of our culture? Sure, we do *fight* in a lot of wars, but that is primarily dislocated from the american psyche. Soldiers, aren't really respected in America, despite all the trendy flag waving that occurs whenever we decide to go level some country to the ground. Look at what happened after the korean war, nobody even cared, look at vietnam, people took a negative stance to those people, who were fighting a war they didn't even understand. Recently the media portrays much rapport for our soldiers, which I think reeks of insincerity.
Europe has had two great wars waged on its soil in the past 100 years and until recently (~15 years ago?) was divided in half. War is something the european people still know very well, the generations that fought and lived through world war 2 are still somewhat alive. It's a memory that is still fresh in the collective mind of europe.
If you think portrayed violence leads to real violence then I conjecture you are primarily misled. Europe's stance on "violence in art" is no less ridiculous then our stance on "sexual content in art." Both parties are wrong...
SuperFarStucker, your first paragraph pretty much confirmed my statement. when i said war/violence is a big part of american life, i wasn't talking about wars waged on american soil. i was talking about all the wars and world-wide violence america has ever had any involvement in, period. I'm saying that the concept of having a war and of fighting seems to be a very natural thing for Americans...especially since george w. became president, it's often true that when there's some kind of conflict, a military solution is the first solution that americans go for.
And i didn't say that portrayed violence directly leads to real violence. If i see Arnold Schwarzenegger mowing down policemen in Terminator, I'm not going to go out and shoot someone randomly just cause arnold does it. What i meant is that the massive amount of violence that people are inundated with eventually, gradually, puts the idea in peoples' heads that violence is okay, and that it's one of the better ways to solve things. there are other factors that contribute to violence, media violence definitely isn't the only cause...some people are just crazy. the amount and kind of portrayed violence that people see all the time are contributing to real violence is all i'm saying.
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