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Posted by trintiy on Jul-18-2001 16:50:

Hello! Let's see who's the real trance addict!!!!

I was thinking about this question today and could not come up with the answer so I thought I'd post it here and see who is the ultimate trance addict.

When was trance first given the name of "TRANCE" how did it all begin?
and
If it was given by one person inparticular Who?
and
What was the first big song to start this new musical catagory?


Posted by KevinExcite on Jul-18-2001 16:53:

I haven't been in this scene that long.......
and I'm sure about this but, I'm pretty sure trance came from the music genre " Goa " it just became more heightened....not sure when or how or who......but then again I could be wrong


Posted by Dj Lex on Jul-18-2001 16:54:

Darude - Sandstorm
hehe


Posted by Boy trance on Jul-18-2001 16:55:

Ohhhh, great question! I'm jus gonna sit back n watch!


Posted by AndiH on Jul-18-2001 16:58:

I think it's kinda hard to say where rave ended and where trance began cause 10 years ago the word trance did exist but today we'd call 'trance' from 1990 hard goa or whatever...


Posted by trintiy on Jul-18-2001 17:07:

Yeah AndiH your kind of on the tip of what I'm looking for, about 10 years ago when I first started going to "raves", songs like:

Channel x - A million Colors
Praga Khan - Injected with a poison
Human resource - dominator
Blue Pearl - Can you feel the passion

you get the idea were all called "rave music", however if you were to refer to some of these songs now you'd classify them as TRANCE, when and how did this all change?


Posted by AndiH on Jul-18-2001 17:37:

oh well I think you can't classify them as trance as we know trance today...IMO the 'new' trance began when rave died cause it was too commercial and the artists had to find new ways...but I just can't name a single tune that defines trance


Posted by AndiH on Jul-18-2001 18:08:

ok...I checked my old cd's...I'd say one of the first trance producers was cosmic baby and so I'd say cosmic baby - 'cosmikk trigger' is part of the beginning of trance, but that's my (german) point of view...


Posted by Astronaut on Jul-18-2001 18:23:

Good thread, keep on talkin!


Posted by trintiy on Jul-18-2001 18:34:

AndiH what year was Cosmic Baby, I've too been going through my old records and CD's and I seem to be hitting a wall around 1991 some of the people I've found are

THK
Golden Girls
and Havana

all of which would classify as trance even under todays standards IMO.


Posted by naeblis on Jul-18-2001 18:35:

Smiley DJ

I think that there is no exact date where goa turned into trance, but more of a gradual evolution. I will go dig up some old records in my attic if I can find any, and I'll post them tonight, but right now i gtg to my day job! yippee...


Posted by beroshima on Jul-18-2001 18:48:

It originally all was a blur of rave/trance. I suppose Sven Vath may have been the first guy categorized as 'trance', but I could be wrong... Like I said, tracks like these blur it:

Orbital - Halcyon + On + On (1989)
808 State - Pacific (1989)
Orbital - Chime (1990)

But, as i've said before, I think Pink Floyd - Learning to Fly (1987) is very trancey...

I think the answer is in the early 90s, when there was the Goa Trance and German Trance scenes... I'm no expert on Goa Trance, though...


Posted by AndiH on Jul-18-2001 18:50:

cosmic baby is 1991...his early works (1989-1990) were completely different


Posted by AndiH on Jul-18-2001 19:31:

cosmic baby - cosmikk trigger 4 (1991-1992)

sorry for the bad quality


Posted by trintiy on Jul-18-2001 19:44:

Ok these are the earliest I could find in my collection.

The Beloved - The Sun Rising (1989)
Energy 52 - Cafe del Mar (1992)
Last Rhythm - Last Rhythm (1991)
Inner City - Good Life (1988)
Massive Attack - Unfinished sympathy (1991)

It appears the beginning of Trance lies in the early 90s


Posted by AndiH on Jul-18-2001 20:05:

never heard of inner city - good life...

btw cosmic baby = energy 52


Posted by trintiy on Jul-18-2001 20:13:

Cosmic Baby is Energy 52, I did not know that, learn something new everyday at Trance addicts.

Inner City was Kevin Saunderson and Paris Gray. It was re-issued in Spanish as 'La Buena Vida' around May 1999. Stacy Pulley and Carl Craig did some remixes for it.


Posted by AndiH on Jul-18-2001 20:27:

quote:
Originally posted by trintiy
Inner City was Kevin Saunderson and Paris Gray. It was re-issued in Spanish as 'La Buena Vida' around May 1999. Stacy Pulley and Carl Craig did some remixes for it.


thanks again...


Posted by trintiy on Jul-18-2001 20:31:

No problem, and thank you for an interesting conversation, I thought this thread would have replies flying in, but it appears there are only a few of us contributing. .


Posted by Spad on Jul-18-2001 20:44:

quote:
Originally posted by trintiy
No problem, and thank you for an interesting conversation, I thought this thread would have replies flying in, but it appears there are only a few of us contributing. .


I think this is a classic case of us theorists sitting back and letting you trance addicts discuss And ur right, you do learn something every day coz I didn't know cafe del amr was as early as '92.

Interesting thread, keep 'em coming.


Posted by trintiy on Jul-18-2001 20:50:

Spad, It just show how amazing that song really is, doesn't it, any trance Dj could drop that song in just about any set and it would fit perfectly.


Posted by Bundesbahn on Jul-18-2001 20:54:

Just don't forget Sven Vath and Jam and Spoon.


Posted by trintiy on Jul-18-2001 21:04:

The earliest productions I could find for Jam El Mar/Spoon are 1994, if I'm wrong someone correct me.

I also think beroshima is on to something with Orbital.

When did FSOL start producing tracks? Papua New Guinea was early (1992)


Posted by DJ Sarah H on Jul-18-2001 21:27:



Inner city - good life
you mean the track with vocals by Karen Rameriz ?
i think thats how u spell her name but could be wrong . . .

" Good life, good life, always a good life, good life, good life " etc etc etc ?

if thats the track u mean, u consider that as early trance ?

How about Leftfeild & Lydon - Open UP
or
The Prodigy - Skylined
Skylined is a great track. from the Jilted Generation album.

Someone Mentioned Pink Floyd ?
well Floyd were classified as rock but to me they are the godfathers of Trance . . . some of their stuff is amazing ! and fits the trance genre perfectly (IMO)

Anyone heard of the Ozric Tentacles ?
woah from 1989 onwards they were playing trance of a sort, some of their live gigs woah amazing !


Posted by Spad on Jul-18-2001 21:37:

quote:
Originally posted by trintiy
Spad, It just show how amazing that song really is, doesn't it, any trance Dj could drop that song in just about any set and it would fit perfectly.


Yeah, it's got a mix for just about everything too (my fave is the Nalin & Kane mix - sooo chilled out but still so bouncy)

But the thing that got me thinking was that I first heard that tune a few years ago (98 or 99) and assumed that's when it was released. Which makes me wonder how many people are hearing re-releases of other tunes at the moment, and assuming they're new.


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