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Know where I can find airline company stock prices? I went to Yahoo Finance, and got them as far back as the 1960s and such with a couple companies. Some airline companies do not have any historical pricing data at all though. On top of that, some of the companies I couldn't even find (such as Air India).

I seriously need the historical stock prices of a few companies badly. And I need them to go as far back as the 60s in some cases, if possible.

Re: airline company stock prices and other BS like it

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Originally posted by Turbonium Know where I can find airline company stock prices? I went to Yahoo Finance, and got them as far back as the 1960s and such with a couple companies. Some airline companies do not have any historical pricing data at all though. On top of that, some of the companies I couldn't even find (such as Air India). I seriously need the historical stock prices of a few companies badly. And I need them to go as far back as the 60s in some cases, if possible.

Many airlines such as Air India, I believe, will not have listed stock prices because they are government owned or otherwise not publicly held companies.

You might try the Wall Street Journal's website or Barron's. Those tend to be the publications to go to when you are looking for finacial information. Financial times of London probably would have similar info.

I don;t know if their websites will have free access to the info though.

MrS

Ok thanks.

To tell u the trust I am completely clueless in terms of business and economics. Like there's NYSE ones (New York Stock Exchange), OTC BB ones (whatever that is), NASDAQ, and a few others. I'm so confused.

a lot of reasons u might not be able to see historical stock price

* privately held
* company may have mergered or bought out
* changed their stock symbol

ru writing an econmic paper for school? or planning to invest in the airline sector?

i have a hypothesis i have to test for data management class: stock prices of airline companies tend to fall for a given time period after that company is involved in an air traffic accident

Well, looks like you are going to have to do a lot of research. But here are a coupe things that will help you.

Ticker symbols:
United = UAL
American = AMR

Some others:
http://finance.yahoo.com/l?s=Airlines&t=S&m=US
http://finance.yahoo.com/l?s=Airways&t=S&m=US
http://finance.yahoo.com/l?s=air&t=S&m=US

TWA got bought out by American in 2000 so you will not find any current info on them. ValuJet got bought by AirTran in the late 1990's so you will also find nothing current on them. PanAm went under in the early 1990's. All of those airlines had major incidents not long before their demise so it might give you an interesting correlation.

The airline you can probably do the most with is (sadly) United. They had the Chicago and Sioux City DC-10 crashes as well as a number of 737 crashes. You might also want to look into the United 747 flight that lost a crago door on route to Hawaii and ripped a hol in the side of the plane (landed safely but I believe 8 passengers/crew were sucked out the hole).

It might do you some good to check stock in the aircraft manufacturers (McDonnell-Douglas, Lockheed, Boeing, Airbus Industrie) to see how their stocks fluctuated to accentuate your point.

Good luck, I hope this helps.

MrS

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Originally posted by MrSquirrel Well, looks like you are going to have to do a lot of research. But here are a coupe things that will help you. Ticker symbols: United = UAL American = AMR Some others: http://finance.yahoo.com/l?s=Airlines&t=S&m=US http://finance.yahoo.com/l?s=Airways&t=S&m=US http://finance.yahoo.com/l?s=air&t=S&m=US TWA got bought out by American in 2000 so you will not find any current info on them. ValuJet got bought by AirTran in the late 1990's so you will also find nothing current on them. PanAm went under in the early 1990's. All of those airlines had major incidents not long before their demise so it might give you an interesting correlation. The airline you can probably do the most with is (sadly) United. They had the Chicago and Sioux City DC-10 crashes as well as a number of 737 crashes. You might also want to look into the United 747 flight that lost a crago door on route to Hawaii and ripped a hol in the side of the plane (landed safely but I believe 8 passengers/crew were sucked out the hole). It might do you some good to check stock in the aircraft manufacturers (McDonnell-Douglas, Lockheed, Boeing, Airbus Industrie) to see how their stocks fluctuated to accentuate your point. Good luck, I hope this helps. MrS

yea i've been finding everything I have on Yahoo Finance, but couldn't find a few that I wanted, which you mentioned, like PanAm. thanks for the advice, but I'll have to do most of this stuff tomorrow or later. I'll get back to you later on how I'm doing.

What's the difference between say a US market thing (like NYSE) and one outside of North America? Noob question, but I need to know.

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Originally posted by Turbonium What's the difference between say a US market thing (like NYSE) and one outside of North America? Noob question, but I need to know.

Basically nothing. The different markets around the world tend to trade different companies and they all work in their own currency. Every country with a free-market economy will have it's own stock market. It is just that the big US markets are more widely looked at because the US is the richest country.

The US actually has several different stock markets, each with their own listing requirements. It is just that the NYSE and the NASDAQ are the most well known.

MrS

I can't find anything on United like you said. The situation is looking bleak.

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Originally posted by Turbonium I can't find anything on United like you said. The situation is looking bleak.

You can't find historical data on United?

Hmmm.


MrS

Not financial.

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Originally posted by Turbonium Not financial.

You should be able to find copies of their annual reports somewhere. They are a publicly traded company so they have to disclose that information to the public. You will probably have to go to a real library for it though. The internet does have its limitations as to how much back information they store.

You could also go to the library and check the stock pages in back issues of newspapers for a month or two after each accident, then make your chart from there.

MrS

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Originally posted by Turbonium i have a hypothesis i have to test for data management class: stock prices of airline companies tend to fall for a given time period after that company is involved in an air traffic accident

might be difficult to prove for variety of reason. One I can think of off the top of my head is that an airline wouldn't be directly affected because the airline provides a service and doesnt acutally make the planes they fly. So, if a Boeing 747 crashes due to a design flaw then Boeing would be directly affected. They would have to settle a big lawsuit, spend lots of money to repairing existing 747, possible retool manfucaturing plants to fix the problem, they would suffer sales loss, and the corporate name would be damaged. However, the airline might not be affected that much, if the problem could be fixed quickly and if not many of their fleet used 747. If all the major airlines used the same air craft they would all suffer in the short term. So, there are many factors which would affect the outcome. Let alone macro economic conditions.

All that being said its probably safe to assume an accident would have short term negative impact on the stock price but long term factors of the health of industry and profitablity of the company would account for price of the stock in the long term.

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Originally posted by MrSquirrel You should be able to find copies of their annual reports somewhere. They are a publicly traded company so they have to disclose that information to the public. You will probably have to go to a real library for it though. The internet does have its limitations as to how much back information they store. You could also go to the library and check the stock pages in back issues of newspapers for a month or two after each accident, then make your chart from there. MrS

That sounds complicated. Damnit. Plus, the stupid libraries here are closed today and tomorrow. And this thing is due on Wednesday, so that gives me basically 1 evening to go to the library, get my info, and compile it into a bunch of spreadsheets.

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Originally posted by Turbonium That sounds complicated. Damnit. Plus, the stupid libraries here are closed today and tomorrow. And this thing is due on Wednesday, so that gives me basically 1 evening to go to the library, get my info, and compile it into a bunch of spreadsheets.

The whole point of research is that it takes some effort. You will find that it is not all that difficult but it does take a little bit more effort than just sitting on your computer using google or yahoo. It will also get you a much better grade if you show you did your research in a more thorough manner, believe me.

MrS

I guess you're right. I hope I can get an extension, even 1 day would help a lot.

MrSquirrel, you mean to check up all those microfilms and stuff right? This is gonna take SO LONG. Looks like I'm going to have to write everything down on paper too.

www.citibank.de (maybe even .com) has some historical charts on some stocks.. good luck

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Originally posted by Turbonium MrSquirrel, you mean to check up all those microfilms and stuff right? This is gonna take SO LONG. Looks like I'm going to have to write everything down on paper too.

Yeah..that is what I meant. Back in the day that was how we had to do most of our research. (the day being only 4 or 5 years ago). I know it is a pain in the ass but it is at the very least an important experience. I also think it will give you much better data to base your report on.

Sorry I made it seem easier than it is. To me looking up information on microfilm is simple. There are many many worse kinds of research.

I don't mean to sound like an ass, but knowing as many different ways to find information as possible will help you a lot more later in life than knowing one "superfast" way of doing it.

Good luck on your project. Hope you feel it is not a waste afterwards.

MrS

I'm at the library right now. Man, it's a pain in the arse (and I haven't found anything yet). I'm looking through the New York Times from the early 90's and stuff, and I honestly can't find the ticker symbols I'm looking for.

Does anyone know what months the quarterly reports of businesses are? Is the first end of quarter in March?

btw, pathetic question: I parked at this parking lot (obviously) and got this stupid parking validation ticket thing with it. Apparently, I'm supposed to put it into this machine here for it to stamp a barcode to it or something. As you might already be guessing, I don't really get out that much, so what in the hell is this ticket for? Are they gonna charge me like 50 bucks for parking? lol.

P.S. I've grown up in small towns when I was a kid, this is the first time in my conscious growing up where I've lived in a big city with actual parking lots like this. So you sorta can't blame me for not knowing. My guess is, if you're under 2 hours parked, they don't charge you anything (assuming you're honest enough to stamp the ticket when you are leaving, and not some random time under 2 hours after you're in the mall/library).

Well. I can help you with a couple things (i think)

As far as the ticker symbols go, sometimes the papers list the companies in alphabetical order with some form of abbreviation then list the ticker symbol. So if you were looking for say United Airlines you would look for the name, not the ticker symbol. Hard to explain I know.

Financial results can be based on either a calendar or fiscal year. I believe a fiscal year starts/ends in June/July whereas a calendar year ends Dec 31. The 1Q of a calendar year is Jan 1-Mar 31; 2Q is Apr 1 - Jun 30; 3Q is Jul 1-Sep 30; 4Q is Oct 1 - Dec 31. Fiscal year quarters are also in 3 month increments but I am not sure as to the exact start date (a dictionary or encyclopedia would have the info). Companies report quarterly results on certain set dates that are dictated by their ticker symbol and go in alphabetical order. The reporting season is spread over several days to keep the market from sensory overload.

As to the parking thing...take the ticket you got entering the lot into the library and ask one of the librarians abotu parking validation...librarians tend to be very helpful people when it comes to giving out information, at the very least they will let you know how the whole thing works. I doubt they will charge you 50 bucks....they don;t even do that in downtown Chicago where parking is horrendously expensive (7 dollars an hour).

Hope I was helpful,

MrS

Ok thanks. Looks like I'll have to come back here tomorrow though, they're closing in 20. But I appreciate the help, it will be useful tomorrow, and if not then, later on for sure.

The parking ticket thing is so embarassing lol. I think I'm just gonna get it stamped and leave. If the gate refuses to open... well... you guys ever watch Mr. Bean?...

Phew, close one. It was just 8 minutes before they'd charge me like 10 bucks or something.

I'm finished. As in done. As in not done. As in ruined. As in THIS IS THE WORST RESEARCH PROJECT I COULD HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED EVER!!!

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