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Posted by Clyde77 on Nov-26-2003 02:48:

question

helo guys,
just wondering.

is trance really the hardest genre to spin? ive heard someone mentioned this. but im not sure if its true.

what about r&b? and drum n bass? are these two easy?

thanks.


Posted by mikefasssy on Nov-26-2003 03:06:

I would say trance is the easiest style I have spun. Although this might just be because it is the style that I primarily spin.

But for all music it's the same concept really, dont't hink it really varies difficulty wise


Posted by TwiloThunder on Nov-26-2003 03:06:

I actually think the opposite. Trance is one of the easiest genres to spin.

Breakbeat is much more challenging than trance to pull off correctly


Posted by TwoPlow on Nov-26-2003 04:03:

Just due to the structure of it, I'd say Breaks, Psy, and Drum And Bass are quite a bit harder. Hip-hop/Rap/RnB would be fairly easy, logically. Trance and House don't have much that would make then particularly difficult, until you get into harmonic or break mixing.


Posted by on Nov-26-2003 04:12:

I would say that trance is one of the harder ones to mix. Just for the main fact that in trance you have long 1-2 min crossovers, and your beats have to be SPOT ON.. whereas Drum n Bass, Breaks, your beatmatching doesn't have to be as accurate.(still good tho), and from what I have heard Techno, is actually one the hardest to spin because it can be incredably hard to anticipate when a new phase is gonna kick in.

just my 0.02 cents

Cheers


Posted by djshan on Nov-26-2003 04:53:

i think drum/bass, reggae, and bhangra/hindi are the hardest to mix.


Posted by Freak on Nov-26-2003 10:21:

I mix all of these.

Theres a distinct difference between mixing and just beatmatching (which is what most peeps tend to regard mixing as )

garage+ drum n bass there is more cutting between them- not as long periods with both faders open and lots of scope for fine tuning in the mix. Lots of people can find pitching drum n bass hard tho

Hip hop + r&b there is more dropping in than any other genre and therefore not as reliant on matching pitch as others - although you can really stand out as a good hip hop dj by using skills learnt in other genres..and there is more scope for totally creative set programming within this area


Learn to mix all of them- more strings to your bow etc...


In terms of phrasing and using eq etc then theres not a lot of difference between any of the genres


hardest thing ive ever mixed was an aphex twin tune and a remix of bjork by funkstorung..... anyone who has the slightest idea what they are about then you will know what i mean


Posted by Dj Thy on Nov-26-2003 12:52:

I will put it very easily :

Every style is easy to mix
Every style is difficult to mix great.

Basic mixing everyone can do, but it's the stuff that makes the mixes outstanding instead of just good that is the difficult part, like tune selection, flow, tricks,... And that's not really something you can learn like beatmatching, you got to have feeling for that.


Posted by twizta on Nov-26-2003 14:57:

i have a question then

how do u mix rnb tracks,...or hiphop

does it require beatmatching and all?


Posted by Clyde77 on Nov-28-2003 22:44:

thank you for your answers guys

^^ and yes i think r & b /hh requires beatmatching also.


Posted by Endlesswave on Nov-28-2003 23:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
In terms of phrasing and using eq etc then theres not a lot of difference between any of the genres


hardest thing ive ever mixed was an aphex twin tune and a remix of bjork by funkstorung..... anyone who has the slightest idea what they
are about then you will know what i mean



That's insane man! I always tried to think of how I could mix an Aphex Twin tune into something else but it would be quite a pain in the ass...


Posted by mcdpitt on Nov-29-2003 08:39:

trance definately harder for me to mix thank house/prog is because of the faster bpm and the fact that many tracks don't have lots of intro/outro beats.


Posted by Nemesis44 on Nov-29-2003 15:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
I mix all of these.

Theres a distinct difference between mixing and just beatmatching (which is what most peeps tend to regard mixing as )

garage+ drum n bass there is more cutting between them- not as long periods with both faders open and lots of scope for fine tuning in the mix. Lots of people can find pitching drum n bass hard tho

Hip hop + r&b there is more dropping in than any other genre and therefore not as reliant on matching pitch as others - although you can really stand out as a good hip hop dj by using skills learnt in other genres..and there is more scope for totally creative set programming within this area


Learn to mix all of them- more strings to your bow etc...


In terms of phrasing and using eq etc then theres not a lot of difference between any of the genres


hardest thing ive ever mixed was an aphex twin tune and a remix of bjork by funkstorung..... anyone who has the slightest idea what they are about then you will know what i mean


You Nuttah!

Aphex twin he he... probably best mixed with a recording of other household appliances.

_________________________________________

Actually the hardest thing to mix is anything with a live drum track i.e. anything played by humans. The timing will not be kept properly and the BPM will change slightly. The human factor makes it really tough.

Being a DJ from the really old school I find Electro and Hip Hop really easy not to mention Big Beat/Breaks.

Something that people tend to find though is that the slower a BPM is the harder it is, partially due to the lack of forgiveness with regards to your adjustments. They become much clearer and noticable.


Freak makes a very good point. There is a hell of a difference between mixing and beat matching. Just because you can beat match within a certain genre it doesn't make you a good DJ of it.
The energies within genres behave so differently. Take trance for example, the BPMs are pretty constand through out the night and the same goes for house and Drum and Base.

Hip Hop on the other hand has different rules for energy. You can be playing an upbeat tempo track and then drop a slow one that just sends the place going crazy. (Hip Hop is a term I use lightly as the true spirit of it died years ago for me, it actually lives on stronger in Big Beat / Breaks than it does in Rap music).

Cheers
Nem


Posted by DjJade on Nov-29-2003 19:59:

one thing that makes trance hard to mix imo is that there are so many more melodies out there and i am anal about mixing on key so its alot harder to think of hte right tracks.

with progressive, its more beaty and the songs are more similar so its harder in some ways becuase you ahve to focus more on progression.

to me its like a video game where each genre has its own strenth and weakness but in the end evberything cancels eachother out and its basically up to the dj to make the best of the strengths and work well with the weaknesses.



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