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A Call for CDR's

A Call for CDR's...

Hello everybody. It looks like i might be be spinning in the Toronto area a little more regularily in the next few months. I am a viynl DJ but i have recently added Final scratch to my equipment list. I am interested in any production work anyone has done - I want to compile a bunch of tracks that most other DJ's in the area arn't usually playing.

I would normally download your mp3's posted here but I am interested in obtaining higher quality versions of these tracks.

PM me if you have something you've be willing to send me (I have an FTP you can upload raw wav files to so we don;t need to fuck around with shipping costs).

Thanks

You're the only one who would be interested in better quality to play out...

Re: A Call for CDR's

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Originally posted by DJ_Science I would normally download your mp3's posted here but I am interested in obtaining higher quality versions of these tracks.

Most of the tracks posted here are 192k/s. I'm sure that should be high enough quality...

YEah, lets be honest. Are a bunch of people drinking, who no nothing about about music sound qualiy gonna tell the difference between a 192 and wav Ill send you some of my tunes if you want tho!

I know that most people use 192 but I really would like non-mp3's. You always lose something in the MP3 compression even at high quality. I know I can sometimes here the 192 with tracks with a lot of high end stuff. If i have to use 192 mp3's i will but I would like the better quality. I'm sure there are people here who would agreee with me.

In the end I will use viynl if i can but this is the next best thing for tracks that arn;t on 12".

I mean its up to you guys at the producers . If you want to pass me stuff great, if not, i understand.

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Originally posted by DJ Terraplex YEah, lets be honest. Are a bunch of people drinking, who no nothing about about music sound qualiy gonna tell the difference between a 192 and wav Ill send you some of my tunes if you want tho!

please do. PM me and we can setup some way for you to upload them to me.

The difference between 192 and wav on a club PA system is almost nonexistant.

I strongly disagree. An mp3 will always remove portions of the audio, thats how it achieves the compression that it does. It uses an algorithm similar to that of a cell phone. It removes sections of the audio that most people cannot hear. Having said that, there are people who can hear it. It has nothing to do with having a trained ear but rather just the way their hearing is wired in their head.

Myself, I cannot hear it with most tracks, especially drummy progressive, but with trance tracks that have alot of high end, I can hear it. I know I'm not alone on this because I know people who say the same thing.

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Originally posted by DJ_Science I strongly disagree. An mp3 will always remove portions of the audio, thats how it achieves the compression that it does. It uses an algorithm similar to that of a cell phone. It removes sections of the audio that most people cannot hear. Having said that, there are people who can hear it. It has nothing to do with having a trained ear but rather just the way their hearing is wired in their head. Myself, I cannot hear it with most tracks, especially drummy progressive, but with trance tracks that have alot of high end, I can hear it. I know I'm not alone on this because I know people who say the same thing.

I always see that an mp3 in winamp goes higher in the freqs than a mastered wave file does. It's visible in the oscilloscope, where with a wav it stays a bit more from the high side of the freqs, mp3 goes all the way to the top. Is this a bug in winamp maybe or does the mp3 compression really add high end to a track?

Yes, mp3 compression does what you say.

However, in the case of 192, ONE NINETY TWO, kbps compression, the difference is almost nonexistant. I can tell you as a producer, someone who listens out for sound quality. People in a club are only going to notice 1/10 of what I and other producers do, and i myself don't notice enough of a difference.

Big DJ's drop mp3 cdr's all the time.

Anyways, im just trying to make it a little easier for you, to just download the mp3's here rather than get the wavs, but i mean its your perogative.

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Originally posted by State of Matter Yes, mp3 compression does what you say. However, in the case of 192, ONE NINETY TWO, kbps compression, the difference is almost nonexistant. I can tell you as a producer, someone who listens out for sound quality. People in a club are only going to notice 1/10 of what I and other producers do, and i myself don't notice enough of a difference. Big DJ's drop mp3 cdr's all the time. Anyways, im just trying to make it a little easier for you, to just download the mp3's here rather than get the wavs, but i mean its your perogative.

However, there is that "almost".

True. Just gotta ask if the difference is worth the trouble of having cd's shipped in the mail rather than downloading mp3's, cause no way am I sending a 90 mb wav file.

There is a dip in quality...but not generally noticable on club systems


I know of loads of djs that play 192k mp3s they just recieved hours earlier off the net..


wavs are only really essential for pressing onto vinyl or cd mastering so u get absolute full quality on the finished article.

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Originally posted by Lightworks I always see that an mp3 in winamp goes higher in the freqs than a mastered wave file does. It's visible in the oscilloscope, where with a wav it stays a bit more from the high side of the freqs, mp3 goes all the way to the top. Is this a bug in winamp maybe or does the mp3 compression really add high end to a track?

winamp has a poor visual frequency display, don't rely on that

mp3s actually cut high frequencies that the winamp display wont reach, waves are different to mpeg audio, and the quality is better with waves despite weird looking displays

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Originally posted by George Kendall There is a dip in quality...but not generally noticable on club systems I know of loads of djs that play 192k mp3s they just recieved hours earlier off the net.. wavs are only really essential for pressing onto vinyl or cd mastering so u get absolute full quality on the finished article.

Exactly.

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Originally posted by State of Matter True. Just gotta ask if the difference is worth the trouble of having cd's shipped in the mail rather than downloading mp3's, cause no way am I sending a 90 mb wav file.

That's something worth taking into consideration. Since it's not meant to be on a cd or vinyl, why bother upping a 90MB file? It'll take about two hours - even on my 54 Mbps adsl line. I'd up a 320kbps mp3 file or something instead of 192kbps, if that'd be ok. Between those, I personally don't hear much difference in quality though.

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Originally posted by George Kendall There is a dip in quality...but not generally noticable on club systems I know of loads of djs that play 192k mp3s they just recieved hours earlier off the net.. wavs are only really essential for pressing onto vinyl or cd mastering so u get absolute full quality on the finished article.

It's pretty much case dependent too... not all 192 mp3s are alike.

Thats the big thing for me, 192 are usually ok quality wise but in some cases they are not. I guess what I am really asking for is the best quality copies of these tracks that your willing to provide. I don;t expect anyone to pay anything in shipping, so I am trying to get an ftp setup for people to upload the stuff to.

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