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Hey guys got a question.

What do you do when you get an extra heavy record that stops your platter or slows it down when cuing? I don't have the best turntables (Gemini SA600s) but they don't usually stop. I just got Duderstadt's track Sunrise and the record pretty heavy and hard to cue because of the stopping thing.....Any suggestions other than get better turntables?

I put less downward pressure on the vinyl to keep the platter from stopping as much as possible.

IF the platter stops *all* the time, then I hit the stop button till the currently playing records reaches the part when I am going to mix. when my break gets near, i hold the record with less pressure prevent the platter from stopping as much as I can.

I practice throwing that record off so that my throw-off speed is the same as the speed that the platter will be moving. That way my beats wont be off that much....

yeah i have that problem except with lighter records on my technics. if you hold it very lightly you should be okay...and dont give it too much of a nudge, just release it.

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Originally posted by sebjr yeah i have that problem except with lighter records on my technics. if you hold it very lightly you should be okay...and dont give it too much of a nudge, just release it.

My technique isn't too heavy-handed. I feel I have to give it a little push so that it doesn't start too slow. I am still messing with it...I will get it eventually.

Thanks everyone for your suggestions.

so is it slipping or too heavy. Sounds like it is not gripping hte platter enough. Is the record warped?, I have one that is kinda cone shaped so only the label touches the slip mat, that thing starts off way too slow.

All I do is puch off from close to the middle, seems to work better for me. You can't push it too hard when you are close to the center, but ya have to play with it to get it right for you.

also if your record is warped, there is a thread around that mentioned a method of putting it in the oven to flatten with some glass around it. Although dangerous, it might work.

if the record is too heavy and slowing the platter, try holding the record along the edge while cueing
that way there really isn't much downward pressure on the record

i just put very little pressure on the record, as little as possible to prevent it from moving...if it still doesn't cooperate, i'll just stop the plate spinning and leave the needle on the record till it's almost time to mix it in.

practice getting the right amount of push for the record. Unless you're TT's are totally underpowered a good shove should bring it up to speed.

An old turntablist trick to get more slip is to get an inner sleeve and cut it into a circle and put it on before the record. Be careful though as this does tend to wear out the other side.

Nem

I usually use wax paper, this seems to decrease the traction a lot. If you want to use other methods I learned this a few years ago watching a friend dj and now I drop my tracks in just the same.

Rather than place your finger on the top in the middle or the edge of the record to go back and forth and drop it, I hold the record with most of my fingers on the VERY edge of the record, pressing not downwards at all, but inwards to the center of the platter by pressing in on the outside edge of the record with my 3-4 fingers... this can almost cause a lift on the record (watch out!) so you got to make sure your force is more horizontal than vertical.
Try this out, its helped me a lot especially when I had older tables that just didnt have as much torque. I was able to stop the record but without stopping the platter (i had HORRIBLE tables too). Lemme know if this works or you need more description

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Originally posted by seven.dj Rather than place your finger on the top in the middle or the edge of the record to go back and forth and drop it, I hold the record with most of my fingers on the VERY edge of the record, pressing not downwards at all, but inwards to the center of the platter by pressing in on the outside edge of the record with my 3-4 fingers... this can almost cause a lift on the record (watch out!) so you got to make sure your force is more horizontal than vertical. Try this out, its helped me a lot especially when I had older tables that just didnt have as much torque. I was able to stop the record but without stopping the platter (i had HORRIBLE tables too). Lemme know if this works or you need more description

yea i do this too, i got crappy decks, pushing inward helps somewhat depending on the record

i feel that starting out with crappy decks allows u to learn the small details u otherwise might not learn with near perfect decks, like how to fix a cue if ur tt doesn't get the record up to max speed when u release it

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