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Posted by hardstyle on Nov-26-2003 20:39:

I hate techno

Look at this guy hahahah

I Hate Techno
Last night went with Josh to a techno / sound collage / found sound performance by a guy I used to work with. Two guys sitting on the floor messing with computers. Haphazard sampling and lifeless beats. I'm really into the idea of collage and found media in all its forms, but this techno stuff is so cold and boring. I really, really don't get what people hear in it. I especially don't get why people go to techno performances where all there is to see is people messing with computers. The whole genre is just weak. People sitting around on pillows or dancing to this insistent, robotic thud. It's just sensation. Yes, some of the sounds are lush and huge and sometimes even interesting. But it's like staring into the light, not like witnessing the muse.

If these people spent half the energy learning to play real instruments....

We left after 30 minutes (he gave up on the music after three minutes... I sat it out through the first set to be polite) and sat down over beers at Jupiter. Was nice catching up with Josh. So weird that I've known him longer than any other friend, and he's my next door neighbor, yet I hardly ever see him. Our schedules just don't sync up.

Posted by shacker at May 12, 2001 11:04 AM


Posted by DigiNut on Nov-26-2003 20:41:

Re: I hate techno

quote:
Originally posted by hardstyle
If these people spent half the energy learning to play real instruments....

And that right there, throws all his credibility out the window.


Posted by BTG on Nov-26-2003 22:54:

i like it when people call it techno...when it usually isn't


Posted by Boomer187 on Nov-26-2003 23:00:

quote:
Originally posted by BTG
i like it when people call it techno...when it usually isn't


its kinda like telling an eskimo that all snow flakes are just snow flakes. As I remember they have different names for different kinds. It's because we aren't emersed in snow that we don't know the difference.


same with "techno", they don'tl isten to it so there is no way tehy can differentiate the different types.

So all you can say is that it is an ignorant statement and leave it be. But make sure when you talk about other types of music you don't fall into the same ignorant pattern as these guys.


Posted by Moongoose on Nov-26-2003 23:00:

Yup techno or rave, that what they say here

OPn all of the boards when someone dares to ask what somebody listens too the answer is preety much like this

"I listen to everything except techno and rave becousethat is fake and requires no real skill to play"


Posted by Vlad on Nov-26-2003 23:06:

This kid I know that "DJ's" calls Ian van Dahl and Lasgo techno. This shows you how much he knows about what he is playing.


Posted by mndeg on Nov-27-2003 00:01:

rock is far more lifeless,
techno the real genre of detroit techno IS pretty lifeless, and thats what makes it so great


Posted by Psionic on Nov-27-2003 00:03:

How is it (I'm using electronica in this case) any more weak a genre than others? Doesn't pop or metal or rap have the same overall repetition?


Posted by mentalbarter on Nov-27-2003 01:11:

imo techno is overrated


Posted by Moongoose on Nov-27-2003 02:46:

Hey dont dis techno techno kics ass, not as much as trance, but still techno parties are damn nice...brsides all we get here are techno and house aprties, almost no trance


Yes metal and pop are repetitev, especialy metal...they can try to play all the different choreds and stuff but you really cant hear that with all that distortion they set up and trying to puke at the microphone...i know...i usedto be a guitar player in a metal band good god what was i thinking


Posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 on Nov-27-2003 06:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Galapidate
How is it (I'm using electronica in this case) any more weak a genre than others? Doesn't pop or metal or rap have the same overall repetition?


Yeah, rap is super repetitive now. There's alot of those pop R&B artists who have repetitive music too. Ashanti is the biggest culprit. That's what bothers me when one of this people who are into rap & shit tell me my music is all the same.


Posted by placebo on Nov-27-2003 06:17:

pics or stfu....oh wait...dammit

i like big beat techno, like Crystal Method...thats what I think of when I think of techno...i didn't even know WTF chris liebing was until someone told me that was what techno really sounded like and i was like WTF that sounds like abunch of noise and they were like yeah it does but its the shit and i was like yeah that is the shit but hot damn that fucking crazy shit and crap and he wa slike yah dude i know and shit. peace.


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Nov-27-2003 06:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
its kinda like telling an eskimo that all snow flakes are just snow flakes. As I remember they have different names for different kinds. It's because we aren't emersed in snow that we don't know the difference.



I like your analogy there. I shall remember that for future use


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Nov-27-2003 06:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
This kid I know that "DJ's" calls Ian van Dahl and Lasgo techno.


So does trancEyes22


quote:
Originally posted by trancEyes22
dj sammy/lasgo are techno, and gabriel and dresden are anything but.





Posted by apathyangel on Nov-27-2003 06:19:

I think people call it techno because there are so many diffrent forms of electronic music that common peopel just call it techno cause they cant keep up with the names.


B ut that is kinda sad Josh should go to a real place with big Dj's and see if he see people with lapptops on the floor..


Posted by DigiNut on Nov-27-2003 06:21:

quote:
Originally posted by placebo
pics or stfu....oh wait...dammit

i like big beat techno, like Crystal Method...thats what I think of when I think of techno...i didn't even know WTF chris liebing was until someone told me that was what techno really sounded like and i was like WTF that sounds like abunch of noise and they were like yeah it does but its the shit and i was like yeah that is the shit but hot damn that fucking crazy shit and crap and he wa slike yah dude i know and shit. peace.

Haha... I think Crystal Method's style is actually classified as a kind of breaks.

Chris Liebing is killer... spun here last week and the man is SO amazing with his mixing and effects. How anybody could dislike this, I do not know...


Posted by hardstyle on Nov-27-2003 11:03:

techno

Christian Valera ...enough said


Posted by basd on Nov-27-2003 11:13:

Re: techno

quote:
Originally posted by hardstyle
Christian Valera ...enough said

It's Varela. Nuff said too


Posted by swe_Trancer on Nov-27-2003 11:32:

well what can i say? alot of people require lyrics, note that those people are often not very musically gifted. since there's not often lyrics in techno they dont like it.


Posted by mentalbarter on Nov-27-2003 11:33:

i hate trance


Posted by swe_Trancer on Nov-27-2003 11:37:

quote:
Originally posted by mentalbarter
i hate trance


what do you like then?


Posted by swe_Trancer on Nov-27-2003 11:38:

quote:
Originally posted by mentalbarter
i hate trance



what do you listen to??


Posted by placebo on Nov-27-2003 15:41:

quote:
Originally posted by mentalbarter
i hate trance


i hate you


Posted by malek on Nov-27-2003 15:51:

listen to

Ben sims
Dave clarke
Danilo vigorito
mauro picotto
adam beyer
christian smith
misstress barbara
technasia

those are techno djs, but everyone spinning it differently... you'll see that genre is so diversified!

as for the music the first post is describing, i could bet its ambiant or some form of electronica music like kraftwerk, aphex twin, dj spooky (most likely), ...


Posted by DigiNut on Nov-27-2003 15:54:

It's lame that people require lyrics, since most of the time those lyrics are poorly-sung pathetic tripe that would only serve to make me vomit if I bothered to listen carefully enough.

And for the love of god, I wish people would stop calling techno a "technological invention". Not only has it been around since the '70s, but it's a direct evolution of ancient African tribal rhythms or Latin songs. This music's been around since the dawn of time.

Any idiot can pick up a guitar and learn to play the same 4 chords over and over again and belt out lyrics. The talent in DJing, at least in techno DJing, is the improvisation, making the music actually do something and have a feel to it.

Techno is like Morse Code; you either get it or you don't.


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