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Posted by Trazedict on Nov-28-2003 18:42:

what the hell is a dub?

for example, Mona Lisa Overdrive - Born to Synthesize (Neo and Farina Dub)


Posted by Freezel on Nov-28-2003 18:46:

in a dub there ain't vocals in a track


Posted by Trazedict on Nov-28-2003 18:47:

oh
thanks
now i understand


Posted by nekholm on Nov-28-2003 18:55:

But what if it's a vocal dub? As in U2 - New Years Dub (Ferry Corsten Extended Vocal Dub)? Hahahahaha!


Posted by arj1o1 on Nov-28-2003 18:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Freezel
in a dub there ain't vocals in a track


or there are less vocals then in the original


Posted by TwoPlow on Nov-28-2003 18:58:

A dub is where elements of the song are removed and/or modified to simplify it. This generally means that the vocals are removed, but not always.


Posted by Renegade on Nov-28-2003 19:06:

The word "dub" in electronic music comes from the "dub-plate" that was used in reggae music and was essentially a pressing of a stripped back version of the music that would be released.

I think many dub-plates were originally used as "test-pressings" (to test normalisation, sound quality etc. when pressed onto vinyl) which we now call either "test-pressings" like I said, or "acetate" (the material used to press these test recordings). Of course, eventually, these dub-plates became a legitimate form of music in themselves and these days when we hear the word "dub" it basically means a track with a lot of the main elements stripped back, giving the track a "minimal" feeling.

Could be wrong on some of these points, but I'm pretty sure that's how it all came about.


Posted by failsafe on Nov-28-2003 22:38:

99% of the time it's removal of the vocal element.


Posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs on Nov-28-2003 22:41:

What the hell is this thing?



ffs there was a post about this like 2 weeks ago...


Posted by infinity HiGH on Nov-29-2003 00:44:

quote:
Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs
What the hell is this thing?



ffs there was a post about this like 2 weeks ago...


how do you recommend searching for 'dub'?


Posted by Max13UT on Nov-29-2003 00:46:

what the hell is a dub?

dub == 20sack


Posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs on Nov-29-2003 01:15:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
how do you recommend searching for 'dub'?

Well...you could type in things that have to deal with it, similar questions like : "What Difference Remix". Selecting just to look at the topic names, and just in the music discussion forum helps.

Use your head


Posted by physe on Nov-29-2003 01:18:

quote:
Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs
What the hell is this thing?



ffs there was a post about this like 2 weeks ago...


Man, am I ever glad I didn't ask the question. I didn't know what dub meant and I didn't see the thread either.


Posted by jdjd on Nov-29-2003 01:44:

ya some idiots bitch about searching when you cant search for your question...

if anyone bitches about me asking about nu-nrg ill bitch slap you!

the site admin should really lower it to 3 letters


Posted by Trazedict on Nov-29-2003 05:25:

quote:
Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs
Well...you could type in things that have to deal with it, similar questions like : "What Difference Remix". Selecting just to look at the topic names, and just in the music discussion forum helps.

Use your head


hmm ok well that is really stretching it and not worth it.
and how bad can it actually be to have a new thread about some topic that was discussed before? if you dont like it simply dont look at it. you arent required to read everything on the main page of threads.


Posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs on Nov-29-2003 06:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Trazedict
hmm ok well that is really stretching it and not worth it.
and how bad can it actually be to have a new thread about some topic that was discussed before? if you dont like it simply dont look at it. you arent required to read everything on the main page of threads.

Stretching and not worth it? You do want to find the answer right? Lets be lazy and make others do all the work for something that you want to know.

The rules do simply state that you should search for topics first. It's for a reason. Maybe it doesn't bother you yet, but sometime in the future I garuntee that you'll be irratated by repeated threads...specially when they were made so close together.

And yes, you do have a good point. Why look if I don't like it? Well I was seeing if you had been helped, and if not I could've replied with the answer. Being at that point in time I was in the mood for flame mode, so you got it.

Anyways...enough rambling...


Posted by arj1o1 on Nov-29-2003 08:11:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
how do you recommend searching for 'dub'?


dub*


Posted by mto on Nov-29-2003 08:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Freezel
in a dub there ain't vocals in a track


You're wrong. 'Dub' usually contains the chorus vocals or the vocals that are the catchiest (<-- not a word) to the ear.


Posted by Pio on Nov-29-2003 08:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Renegade
The word "dub" in electronic music comes from the "dub-plate" that was used in reggae music and was essentially a pressing of a stripped back version of the music that would be released.

I think many dub-plates were originally used as "test-pressings" (to test normalisation, sound quality etc. when pressed onto vinyl) which we now call either "test-pressings" like I said, or "acetate" (the material used to press these test recordings). Of course, eventually, these dub-plates became a legitimate form of music in themselves and these days when we hear the word "dub" it basically means a track with a lot of the main elements stripped back, giving the track a "minimal" feeling.

Could be wrong on some of these points, but I'm pretty sure that's how it all came about.


yeah that's the old school meaning of dub, and it is still used on drum and bass for the latest hard to get white labels. you all know what it means in our souless genres though, that's a different story but here you can see where it comes from. it is also a great electronic reggae genre, check out Dub Side of the Moon .


Posted by Psygnosis on Nov-29-2003 09:00:

I think a dub is just less vocals, not "no vocals", theyll name it instrumental if it had no vocals.

so i'm sure a dub is just less vocals.


Posted by kanadianiceman on Jan-03-2004 19:34:

a pure example of a hard to get, dub, i would think

ECB _ Thinkin' Of You (White)


i have looked for days and found nothing, leading onto trails that i thought would bring me to where i want, but end up empty handed



Goes, im thinkin' about you girl


thats the song, nice bass line, my current fav, was on yousef and Dj heather set.


if anyone has this or knows where i can grab it, leme know,

email me asap please!! [email protected]


Posted by Haunted on Jan-03-2004 19:53:

quote:
Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs
Stretching and not worth it? You do want to find the answer right? Lets be lazy and make others do all the work for something that you want to know.

The rules do simply state that you should search for topics first. It's for a reason. Maybe it doesn't bother you yet, but sometime in the future I garuntee that you'll be irratated by repeated threads...specially when they were made so close together.

And yes, you do have a good point. Why look if I don't like it? Well I was seeing if you had been helped, and if not I could've replied with the answer. Being at that point in time I was in the mood for flame mode, so you got it.

Anyways...enough rambling...



stop trying to fit in

youll always be a loser


Posted by techno:logy on Jan-03-2004 19:55:

As far as I can recall, Dub was used in the Reggea scene. The used to 'remix' a record in such a way that only 1 or 2 samples of the original songs remained (exagerated). They called this a dub. But who cares anyway, some artist call their track, 'The Flying-Pink-Elephant-in-a-tutu-Remix' am I supposed to hear that? I think it doesn't make a difference anymore whether a song's a Mix, Remix or Dub.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-03-2004 20:02:

Actually, a dub is just a track where the higher notes are removed.


Posted by starglider on Jan-03-2004 22:10:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Actually, a dub is just a track where the higher notes are removed.


I keep telling people that but nobody listens. As this good man pointed out a dub has higher frequencies removed which often but not always means vocals. An example of a "dub" of a non-vocal track would be Bedrock - Emerald (Bedrock Dub). The bassline is less melodic and the high, floaty lead is taken out.


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