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Posted by Digital Aura on Nov-29-2003 21:01:

Dunno Alright ... Damaged!

This is a great tune by Plummet (the ATB mix is sweet on Trance Nation America 2) but there are several mixes being shared on those evil p2p networks simply called

Plummet - Damaged (Trance Mix) 4:02 and
Plummet - Damaged (Club Mix)6:49


Discogs.com makes no mention of these anywhere. Anyone know who remixed them and what the correct titles should be??


Posted by starglider on Nov-29-2003 21:12:

I haven't heard them, but the "Trance Mix" will likely be the radio mix and the "Club Mix" (going by discogs again) will be Ford's Transcendental mix. The trick is to find known mixes with lengths similar to the ones you've got and then finding copies of those to see if they match up. Try that, it's worth a shot.


Posted by Digital Aura on Nov-29-2003 21:21:

that's exactly what I've been doing...hehe..
that ATB remix doesn't show up on discogs either though...that took some diggin' on GOOGLE to find the CD it appeared on.

B4 i change it, is Fords 12" Transcendental Mix likely to be trancey? or some other sub genre like breakbeat, etc.


Posted by fitom tiel on Nov-29-2003 21:38:

antillas isn't half bad either.


Posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs on Nov-29-2003 21:38:

Plummet - Damaged (Antillas Remix)

nuff said


Posted by starglider on Nov-29-2003 21:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Digital Aura
that's exactly what I've been doing...hehe..
that ATB remix doesn't show up on discogs either though...that took some diggin' on GOOGLE to find the CD it appeared on.

B4 i change it, is Fords 12" Transcendental Mix likely to be trancey? or some other sub genre like breakbeat, etc.


No clue. You'll have to find it for yourself and see.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Nov-29-2003 21:57:

quote:
Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs
Plummet - Damaged (Antillas Remix)

nuff said


Yeah.
Too bad that has fuck all to do with what the thread is about.


Posted by Digital Aura on Nov-29-2003 22:01:

Cool Mr Mystery >>> Mr.Sarcastic

quote:
Yeah.Too bad that has fuck all to do with what the thread is about.


HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

You are the most sarcastic flamer i've seen on here!!


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Nov-29-2003 22:02:

Re: Mr Mystery >>> Mr.Sarcastic

quote:
Originally posted by Digital Aura
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

You are the most sarcastic flamer i've seen on here!!

I wouldn't call it flaming, more like pointing out the obvious...


Posted by Digital Aura on Nov-29-2003 22:07:

you're right...mostly always are...but you're sarcastic as hell! ahahah


Posted by Snooper on Nov-29-2003 22:25:

Re: Re: Mr Mystery >>> Mr.Sarcastic

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
I wouldn't call it flaming, more like pointing out the obvious...


Well, if it's so obvious why point it out at all? Wow, how cool you are.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Nov-29-2003 22:28:

Re: Re: Re: Mr Mystery >>> Mr.Sarcastic

quote:
Originally posted by Snooper
Well, if it's so obvious why point it out at all? Wow, how cool you are.

Err... mainly because someone actually DID post something that didn't have anything to do with the thread?



Nah, I actually just do it to look cool.
Really.


Posted by whiskers on Nov-29-2003 22:47:

shut the fuck up.


i've never heard of the ATB remix, and i've done some research on this track. i think it's a simple mislabeling

and to just add some more pointless advice, stay away from all the tracks that are either "trance", "techno" or "dance" mixes, shorter than 5 minutes, or both. at least that's what i do to avoid crappy-quality, mislabeled, cut-off rips


Posted by mndeg on Nov-29-2003 22:49:

why are you using kazaa for mp3s?
LOL


Posted by Snooper on Nov-29-2003 22:50:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Mr Mystery >>> Mr.Sarcastic

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Err... mainly because someone actually DID post something that didn't have anything to do with the thread?


Well, did your posts have anything to do with the thread if i may ask? The point is, you always have to open your big mouth and flame people. If he wanted to state that he liked the Antillas remix, then what's the problem? Grow up...


Posted by davinox on Nov-30-2003 01:28:

Plummet - Dammaged (Rave Mix)

what's this? ch00n.


Posted by DJ Sunburn on Nov-30-2003 01:47:

quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
why are you using kazaa for mp3s?


that's what i'm saying


Posted by Digital Aura on Nov-30-2003 03:35:

this took a weird turn!

First off... I have NEVER used Kazaa (too much spyware and shite)
and never stated that I did!
Whiskers said:
quote:
i've never heard of the ATB remix

My freind you didn't do too much lookin'

http://www.discogs.com/release/108537

It's not called ATB Remix but what else would you call it...it's not the original!


Posted by starglider on Nov-30-2003 03:41:

Re: this took a weird turn!

quote:
Originally posted by Digital Aura
First off... I have NEVER used Kazaa (too much spyware and shite)
and never stated that I did!
Whiskers said:

My freind you didn't do too much lookin'

http://www.discogs.com/release/108537

It's not called ATB Remix but what else would you call it...it's not the original!



Dude, ATB didn't remix Damaged.

Just because ATB mixed that CD doesn't mean it's automatically his remix. It wasn't "called ATB Remix" for a reason.


Posted by Digital Aura on Nov-30-2003 04:04:

Exclamation draw your own conclusions...

well...according to discogs, Trance Nation America 2 was remixed by ATB and George Acosta. ATB mixed disc 1 and Acosta mixed disc 2.

http://www.cduniverse.com/productin...6&frm=sh_google

A review on amazon.com says "...it seems to me that ATB takes forever to make a transition to the next song making some of the segments in between very boring with repetitive beats. George Acosta's mix on disc 2, on the other hand, is perfect."

Same type of review here...
http://newage-music.mainseek.com/18...nce_Nation.html

Now, that being said, I may be using terms improperly..he mixed it, or remixed it, or reworked it in a set ... whatever... its a shorter version than the original.
I also value the input of trancers more senior than myself -- such as starglider...and if I'm wrong...
I graciously submit to you - no offense! I know what you're sayin' and I have to admit...it doesn't stack up.

I'd like to know what the hell this track is...


Posted by arctic on Nov-30-2003 04:21:

From what I understand, the club mix is just the original (The antillas remix was the one in the video shown in tv down here).

I've never heard of an ATB mix , so i'm afraid i'm of no use there.

The only remix really worth listening to is the neo & farina anyhow.


Posted by starglider on Nov-30-2003 04:25:

Re: draw your own conclusions...

quote:
Originally posted by Digital Aura
well...according to discogs, Trance Nation America 2 was remixed by ATB and George Acosta. ATB mixed disc 1 and Acosta mixed disc 2.

http://www.cduniverse.com/productin...6&frm=sh_google

A review on amazon.com says "...it seems to me that ATB takes forever to make a transition to the next song making some of the segments in between very boring with repetitive beats. George Acosta's mix on disc 2, on the other hand, is perfect."

Same type of review here...
http://newage-music.mainseek.com/18...nce_Nation.html

Now, that being said, I may be using terms improperly..he mixed it, or remixed it, or reworked it in a set ... whatever... its a shorter version than the original.
I also value the input of trancers more senior than myself -- such as starglider...and if I'm wrong...
I graciously submit to you - no offense! I know what you're sayin' and I have to admit...it doesn't stack up.

I'd like to know what the hell this track is...


Whoa whoa... I think you're getting your terminology mixed up a bit (a lot ).

Let's get some things straight.

Saying "ATB mixed disc 1" means that he compiled and spun the records (in theory, but let's not get into that) into a seamless mix. Mixing a CD is not at all the same thing as remixing a song, even though the root word seems to be the same. So he had absolutely nothing to do -- production-wise -- with the tracks on disc 1 (except for those explicitly marked as such), nor did George Acosta on the disc 2 tracks.

Now then, the track is a "shorter version" of the original because it's been mixed, ie, there's no intro or outro. I hope that clears some things up...


Posted by whiskers on Nov-30-2003 05:58:

1. discogs don't always have their info correct

2. most amazon trance cds reviews are completely useless. the second link you give me calls this cd "Trance Nation '96 CD 1" yeah. 96???

3. i have trance nation america II and AFAIK, ATB never remixed damaged. just like starglider said, mixing and remixing are completely different things and simply making the track shorter or changing the tempo to fit it into a dj set does not make it a remix.


Posted by mto on Nov-30-2003 07:54:

I don't like the remixes. I love the original breakbeat version

Dj X - Damaged (Original)
or Plummet - Damager (Original)

Plummet = Dj X (Breakbeat DJ from Orlando, FL) and the female vocalist that sang the lyrics.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Nov-30-2003 09:32:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mr Mystery >>> Mr.Sarcastic

quote:
Originally posted by Snooper
Well, did your posts have anything to do with the thread if i may ask? The point is, you always have to open your big mouth and flame people. If he wanted to state that he liked the Antillas remix, then what's the problem? Grow up...


I am pretty much grown up, thank you very much.
How ironic is it when you take action against someone who's "flaming" by doing the exact same thing?

Now what do you say we get back on topic, eh?


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