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Andain can't sing

I finally got to listen to Tiesto @ Arnhem, its a great great set, but when Andain comes on, she can't sing very well, her voice is shaky and all, but it does sound like her. Whats the deal here? Summer calling, beautiful things are great songs, but is it computer altered?

most live acts can't very well - Iio, Jan Johnson and Marcella Woods have all been crap when I've seen them. Jess from Motorcycle was 'okay' at the NEC, but not amazing

i remember thinking the exact same thing...i kinda sucks when i listen to that set i have to skip all the andain songs (which i normally love) because her voice is just awful

Ever sung in front of a group of people? Get a bit nervous?

Well multiply that by 25,000. Singing in front of a live audience isn't easy, especially a live audience that big directly in front of you.

The other problem is that she is singing over the the vinyl copy, not a dubbed karaoke version, meaning that her original vocals can still be heard. So when she *slightly* misses a note, it sounds horrific because the tones clash (as the difference in pitch between two notes gets closer, the discord becomes worse). Your average pop star, or someone singing the national anthem at the football doesn't have this problem.

Then again, most people just lip-sync anyway....

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Ever sung in front of a group of people? Get a bit nervous? Well multiply that by 25,000. Singing in front of a live audience isn't easy, especially a live audience that big directly in front of you. The other problem is that she is singing over the the vinyl copy, not a dubbed karaoke version, meaning that her original vocals can still be heard. So when she *slightly* misses a note, it sounds horrific because the tones clash (as the difference in pitch between two notes gets closer, the discord becomes worse). Your average pop star, or someone singing the national anthem at the football doesn't have this problem.

Her voice was shakey, probably nervous. The thing is, it messes up the set. I seen on some of those mtv award shows when others singing over a copy and its not bad.

Actually, right now as im typing im listening to part 2 of the set around 53 mins and its jan johnston singing over skydive It sounds very very good Then again, jan's had some practice with this tune anyways

I love this set: Dj Tiesto - In Concert Gelredome Arnhem (Holland) 05-11-03

source of pain?

Dmatrox...where did you find this set to listen to? Was it streamed? Or did you buy it? I'd like to hear it...

I got it from the *ahem* you know Do you know the *ahem* place, or if you dont, i can send it to you on MSN, if you have MSN you can PM me your email, and i can upload it to you or something.

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Originally posted by Dmatrox Her voice was shakey, probably nervous. The thing is, it messes up the set. I seen on some of those mtv award shows when others singing over a copy and its not bad.

The difference with those MTV award shows is that they're probably not singing at all, just pretending. Or they're singing but the microphone isn't turned on

did you listen to the jan johnston part? wow.

and about award shows. sometimes they do lip sink, sometimes they dont and you know it because it sounds different.

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Originally posted by Dmatrox did you listen to the jan johnston part? wow. and about award shows. sometimes they do lip sink, sometimes they dont and you know it because it sounds different.

So care to explain the procedure for lip sinking to me? I'm a *bit* confused...

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Originally posted by SuperFarStucker So care to explain the procedure for lip sinking to me? I'm a *bit* confused...

sure. lip sinking is just pretending you are singing by moving your lips to the words but not actually singing.

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Originally posted by Dmatrox sure. lip sinking is just pretending you are singing by moving your lips to the words but not actually singing.

wow.. that was funny.. I was just knocking on you because you misspelled it.. lip syncing is the term you're looking for i believe.

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Originally posted by SuperFarStucker wow.. that was funny.. I was just knocking on you because you misspelled it.. lip syncing is the term you're looking for i believe.

ive been spelling it lip sinking all these years and no one said anything?

thanks, i didnt know it was "lip syncing"

maybe nervous for a crowd of 30000

Ive heard a liverecording of Mavie Marcos singing 'Make Me' and she sounds like a abused donkey..

but she sing like a god in the studio though guess thats just the way she is.. (hope she doesnt read this lol shes registred here)

to me it sounded like she mimed the tiesto in concert set ?

voice enhancements :P gabriel and dresden are good with this :P, imnot sying its a bad thing, and also its good to play around with the vocals n sht, and layering themm

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Originally posted by Clyde77 voice enhancements :P gabriel and dresden are good with this :P, imnot sying its a bad thing, and also its good to play around with the vocals n sht, and layering themm

i heared that the quality from a vocal in a finished track 90% comes from the voice from the singer and just the rest is how good the producer can "fake" with computers.... i think she was just very nervous @ Tiesto in Concert and she had no monitor speaker !

nah...

I don't think that excuse really flies...sure there's some butterflies and jitters, but professionals can still pull off some great vocals...
Professionals "never let you see 'em sweat". That's what seperates the best from the mediochre cough* Jan *cough

yeah, but most of them aren't professional 'performing' artists... they're not in bands that put on concerts. They record in studios for EDM productions and attempt to do live PAs for icing on the cake, although they usually sound bad. And, can we really compare any to Jan?

As far as MTV bullshit is concerned... anybody who's dancing as they 'sing' is syncing...

Can someone tell me how to hear this? Have you seen the performance on Tiesto's DVD?

I thought Jan Johnston was awesome in that set; she obviously has perfect pitch whereas the other girls do not.

As others here have mentioned, nerves obviously play a pretty big part. Not having perfect pitch also plays a big part. There are sadly very few professional singers that do have perfect pitch.

It's amazing what studio magic can do for ones voice. It's a shame to hear that Jan Johnson can't sing live....I love her voice

...good point!

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anybody who's dancing as they 'sing' is syncing

I always wondered if, shall we say, Britney Spears was really that athletic that she could flail like a freak and not lose any breath whilst singing!


I guess I never wanted to believe lip-syncing was used outside of "making videos"... is it just me who thinks that this "cheapens" the whole experience???

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Originally posted by DjGrl2000 It's amazing what studio magic can do for ones voice. It's a shame to hear that Jan Johnson can't sing live....I love her voice

You must be kidding, jan johnson is amazing live. download part 2 of the set and listen to around 53mins

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I always wondered if, shall we say, Britney Spears was really that athletic that she could flail like a freak and not lose any breath whilst singing!

singers that dance on stage and sing can do so because they train for it by running on a treadmill and talking without stumbling. it was on tv.

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