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Gamemaster >><< Suburban Train

Have you ever noticed that the female vocal in Gamemaster is very similar to Suburban Train's tune? I wonder how much influence it had on Tiesto when he wrote Train.

erm.. probably none theres that many tunes been made that some vocals and tunes r gonna sound bit similar think bout it

Re: Gamemaster >><< Suburban Train

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Have you ever noticed that the female vocal in Gamemaster is very similar to Suburban Train's tune?

Nope.

The only vocals in Gamemaster are spoken, so how could they compare to the "tune" of another track?

If that's not what you meant, please explain.

No I mean the opera-style singing that goes on.

since when were their vocals for suburban train

that's Urban Train

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J No I mean the opera-style singing that goes on.

yep, that vocal melody on gamemaster is almost identical to the melody in suburban train.. only thing is, gamemaster came out about 3years before suburban train did... coincidince ? go figure... ALSO, the main background melody in Basic Avalon - Firewalk is the exact same notes as the main melody in Tiesto's remix of Silence.. these 2 tracks however were from around the same time.. well on my vinyl, it says 99 for both tracks.. is tiesto guilty ? i wouldnt doubt it one bit.

btw, i was just about to make the same thread saying, "TiesDOH !"

game master has no opera-style singing..

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J No I mean the opera-style singing that goes on.

Ah, I understand now. Never actually compared the two so I can't say if you're right or wrong.

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Originally posted by alpha9 game master has no opera-style singing..

It's not singing, yes, but it does have electronic opera effect strings in the track, which is used to much greater effect in "My Soul" by Lost Tribe.

Are you talking about the sample or the just the actual melody? There's no such thing as an original tonal melody in the 21st century. Every single possibility has already been done in some way or the other. Coincidences are even more recurrent in minimal music with structure such as trance.

how the fuck do they sound the same?


for a start:

gamemaster = spoken vocals
urban train = sung vocals

Re: Gamemaster >><< Suburban Train

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I wonder how much influence it had on Tiesto when he wrote Train.

call yourself a tranceaddict

Re: Re: Gamemaster >><< Suburban Train

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Originally posted by Az call yourself a tranceaddict

i think he misspelt ronald van gelderen

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Originally posted by aloep It's not singing, yes, but it does have electronic opera effect strings in the track, which is used to much greater effect in "My Soul" by Lost Tribe.

if there's no opera-style singing then don't use the term "opera" or "operatic". opera does not equal classical-emulating strings, which is a difference that most TAs don't seem to get.

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Originally posted by YaleTrance if there's no opera-style singing then don't use the term "opera" or "operatic". opera does not equal classical-emulating strings, which is a difference that most TAs don't seem to get.

funnily enough ,the sample in gamemaster of the "operatic" singing was actually a sample taken from recording of an opera...

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Originally posted by YaleTrance opera does not equal classical-emulating strings, which is a difference that most TAs don't seem to get.

Yeah, I know what you're talking about and I understand that.

But what I'm reffering to is this part in the track here.

What would you call this?

To me, it does sound like an opera singer but sounds like an electronically "emulated" version rather than the real thing.

But however, I'm probably wrong, the more I listen to it, the more "real" it sounds.

wasn't that by Peter Van Dyk?

.. er sorry

haha as if thats not a real voice

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Originally posted by aloep Yeah, I know what you're talking about and I understand that. But what I'm reffering to is this part in the track here. What would you call this? To me, it does sound like an opera singer but sounds like an electronically "emulated" version rather than the real thing. But however, I'm probably wrong, the more I listen to it, the more "real" it sounds.

yeah i get ya. i really wasn't picking on gamemaster itself, it's just that every single track that has classical strings or symphonic samples are typically defined as "operatic trance", and that's not the accurate adjective. operatic, symphonic and classical don't mean the same thing. that was my point.

Remember that Suburban Train is basically just a mash-up of Delerium - Silence (Tiesto's ISOS mix) vs Kid Vicious - Reform....

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Originally posted by webmeister Remember that Suburban Train is basically just a mash-up of Delerium - Silence (Tiesto's ISOS mix) vs Kid Vicious - Reform....

How could we forget since someone ALWAYS mentions that whenever Suburban Train is discussed...

wait whats the difference between Urban train and Suburban train?

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Originally posted by montie wait whats the difference between Urban train and Suburban train?

Urban Train = vocals
Suburban Train = no vocals

Nice sig Ste.

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