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Posted by Incantation_UK on Dec-03-2003 22:47:

Best Mitsibushi EVo?

I was talking to my mate the other day about favourite "realistic" (in terms of price) cars. I said that mine was the Mitsibushi Evo VIII. He then went on to say that the Evo V was a better car as it was lighter and more powerful. I don't believe this as I find it difficult to understand why a manufacture would make its homologation car for the WRC heavier and slower than the car three generations before it. Just wondered if anyone knows anything about this and can confirm whether what he is saying is true or not.


Posted by VIO on Dec-03-2003 23:17:

don't know too much about the evo's but the galant vr-4 is a pretty bad ass ride as well. you just can't buy it here in the states. there's a guy doning the first evo viii head swap into a v6 galant as we speak though so that should be pretty cool.


Posted by UglyDave on Dec-03-2003 23:19:

M3 will always be the car for me.

which would be faster / quicker??

EVO's only have a 2.0l or something like that dont they??


Posted by VIO on Dec-03-2003 23:21:

quote:
Originally posted by UglyDave
M3 will always be the car for me.

which would be faster / quicker??

EVO's only have a 2.0l or something like that dont they??


i beleive it's a 3.0l based off of the 6g72 block same as the block in the galant, eclipse, sebring and stratus but with dohc.

*edit* i was wrong it is 2.0l


Posted by squirrelly on Dec-03-2003 23:21:

OMG I love Evo's! Good God, such magnificent cars! *drool*

My ex had one... We used to race all the suckers that pulled up next to us. Such powerful cars! And so beautiful!


LANCER EVOLUTION


Engine Type: Inline-4

Engine Block: Cast Iron

Cylinder Head: Aluminum Alloy

Displacement (liters): 2.0

Horsepower @ rpm (SAE net): 271@6500

Torque (lb-ft @ rpm): 273@3500

Redline (rpm): 7000

Bore and Stroke (mm): 85.0 x 88.0

Compression Ratio: 8.8:1

Valvetrain: DOHC 16-Valve

Valve Cover: Magnesium

4-Wheel Ventilated BREMBO� Disc Brakes with Aluminium Caliper Housings:

Fuel System: ECI-MULTI Electronic Fuel Injection

Engine Oil Type: 100% Fully Synthetic Oil Required

Turbocharger Type: Twin Scroll Turbine

Top Speed: 157 MPH







Beautiful car! *drool* But it doesn't compare to my one true love.... the Skyline!

Base Price: $89,500
Vehicle type: 2-door 2-passenger coupe: front-engine, all-wheel-drive

Powertrain:
2.6-liter DOHC 24-valve In-Line 6 twin-turbocharged with Intercooler
280 Horsepower @ 6800 rpm
293 Ib-ft of Torque @ 4400 rpm
6-speed sequential transmission

Performance:
Acceleration 0-30 mph: 1.7 seconds
Acceleration 0-60 mph: 4.7 seconds
Acceleration 0-80 mph: N/A
Acceleration 0-100 mph: 12.7 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.7 seconds
Top Speed: 112 mph(Electronically Limited in Japan. Should be about 180mph if chip is taken off)

Suspension:
Front: Double wishbone/multilink
Rear: Double wishbone/multilink

Wheels:
Front: N/A
Rear: N/A

Tires:
Front: 245/40ZR18
Rear: 245/40ZR18

Brakes:
Front: Brembro Vented Discs (4-piston calipers)
Rear: Brembro Vented Discs (2-piston calipers)
ABS: standard

Misc:
Wheelbase: 104.9 inches
Length: 181.1 inches
Width: 70.3 inches
Height: 53.5 inches
Base curb weight: 3395 pounds
Steering: N/A






*edited post*

*edited again for lancer pics*


Posted by VIO on Dec-03-2003 23:28:

quote:
Originally posted by anuneventrade
OMG I love Evo's! Good God, such magnificent cars! *drool*

My ex had one... We used to race all the suckers that pulled up next to us. Such powerful cars! And so beautiful! It's up there on my fav cars list, but it's nothing compared to my *beloved* skyline.


skylines are bad ass but i think the sylvia is just as cool.


Posted by UglyDave on Dec-03-2003 23:45:

quote:
Originally posted by anuneventrade
OMG I love Evo's! Good God, such magnificent cars! *drool*
*edited post*


i love you

i really do!


Posted by Incantation_UK on Dec-03-2003 23:48:

But, is the Evo V lighter and faster than the Evo VIII?


Posted by squirrelly on Dec-03-2003 23:49:

quote:
Originally posted by UglyDave
i love you

i really do!


hahahhaa, why?

BTW,that info up there is for the evo VIII, let me grab the info for the fifth.


Posted by squirrelly on Dec-04-2003 00:01:

Evo V

Price: $--,---
Miles Per Gallon: --/-- mpg
Curb Weight: 2998 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/AWD
Transmission: 5-Speed Manual
Engine
Type: Turbocharged Inline-4
Displacement: 1997 cc
Horsepower: 276 bhp @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 275 lb-ft @ 3000 rpm
Redline: ---- rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 5.0 sec
0-100 mph: 12.9 sec
Quarter Mile: 13.1 sec @ 101 mph
Skidpad: .95g
Top Speed: 140 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: 123 ft
Slalom Speed: 65.8 mph


Well, horsepower is better in the V, but the top speed is better in the Viii... It's a tight one btwn the torque... GSR(6M/T): Total only 3kg heavier with making details parts lighter
RS(5M/T): Even with ACD fitted, Front helical LSD (standard), the overall design is approx.19kg lighter than Evo 7 with manufacture option (ACD etc)





*edit* So no, I don't think the V is lighter than the VIII. Absolutely not. Why would they make a newer version heavier? It doesn't make sense.

Hard to believe I'm a girl eh?


Posted by squirrelly on Dec-04-2003 04:08:

So did you show up your friend?


Posted by Yan on Dec-04-2003 04:26:

EVO 4 + EVO 7 are my faves. They're just... so great =D


Posted by squirrelly on Dec-04-2003 04:27:

quote:
Originally posted by DJYaNiK
EVO 4 + EVO 7 are my faves. They're just... so great =D


They are all fantastic! Though I do have to admit, my fav is the evo 7


Posted by SebG on Dec-04-2003 04:40:

My fav's are evo 5, 5.5 and 6.


Posted by keithos27 on Dec-04-2003 04:48:

I've heard the Evo 7 is actually better than the 8... heard the 8 was detuned to bring it over to the States, which I would believe (i.e. well all know detuned versions of car make it over to the States... like the e36 M3... 321HP in Europe, 240 in US!!!!).

Sorry, I don't know the answer to the 8 vs 5 though.

-Keith


Posted by squirrelly on Dec-04-2003 04:50:

quote:
Originally posted by keithos27
I've heard the Evo 7 is actually better than the 8... heard the 8 was detuned to bring it over to the States, which I would believe (i.e. well all know detuned versions of car make it over to the States... like the e36 M3... 321HP in Europe, 240 in US!!!!).

Sorry, I don't know the answer to the 8 vs 5 though.

-Keith


I posted up that answer lol


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Dec-04-2003 06:06:

quote:
Originally posted by anuneventrade
*edit* So no, I don't think the V is lighter than the VIII. Absolutely not. Why would they make a newer version heavier? It doesn't make sense.

Hard to believe I'm a girl eh?


your turning me oN~! lols ok so lets talk cars...
sorry i beg to differ - i have a 96 gst and ever since it i have extremely hated on DSM. so i stay far away from mitsu, but lets trade off since im a huge Subaru WRX STi fan and plan on owning one this spring. personally i think the evo looks great but block wise, i stay away from dsm parts not my liking too much problems with intake manifolds and drivetrain...header gasket leaks just horrible...so i stick close to my subaru technica int'l. WRC ferreaLz..


Posted by nchs09 on Dec-04-2003 06:11:

quote:
Originally posted by anuneventrade
OMG I love Evo's! Good God, such magnificent cars! *drool*

My ex had one... We used to race all the suckers that pulled up next to us. Such powerful cars! And so beautiful!


LANCER EVOLUTION




Base Price: $89,500


Powertrain:
2.6-liter DOHC 24-valve In-Line 6 twin-turbocharged with Intercooler

*edited post*

*edited again for lancer pics*


does are some preatty bad stats u found.... twin turbo?! maybe if u add one later one...which i doubt it would fit in the small engine compartment, and base prie of 89k/......try 32 k or so..


but still...BAD ASS CAR


Posted by squirrelly on Dec-04-2003 06:19:

quote:
Originally posted by kid nyce
your turning me oN~! lols ok so lets talk cars...
sorry i beg to differ - i have a 96 gst and ever since it i have extremely hated on DSM. so i stay far away from mitsu, but lets trade off since im a huge Subaru WRX STi fan and plan on owning one this spring. personally i think the evo looks great but block wise, i stay away from dsm parts not my liking too much problems with intake manifolds and drivetrain...header gasket leaks just horrible...so i stick close to my subaru technica int'l. WRC ferreaLz..




I never cared much for subaru's actually. For some reason, I just don't like them. They don't impress me all that much. Sure, some of em have some good stock engines and power, but.... something's lacking.

quote:
does are some preatty bad stats u found.... twin turbo?! maybe if u add one later one...which i doubt it would fit in the small engine compartment, and base prie of 89k/......try 32 k or so..


but still...BAD ASS CAR


The turbo's are there! Make for some powerful movement. It's friggin' fantastic. OMG, you should have seen even the stock engine! My jaw hit the ground! So much power in those cars! Some guy at one of the evo shows had a hyped up evo... He put too much money on some BS pieces, but had he thrown that money into some proper gear... omfg, the car would have been godlike.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Dec-04-2003 07:46:

quote:
Originally posted by UglyDave
i love you

i really do!


no, I Love her!!

Seriously, I love Evo's...so fuckin sexy...if you could call a car that. Definately my top choice; has been for a while now. *drools*







Hi-Res Rally pic 1

Hi-Res Rally pic 2

p.s. my dream career always has been to be a professional Rally driver


Posted by dj_mdma on Dec-04-2003 13:07:

The EVO VIII has been reported to be good but not as good as the previous models, due to it being 1.) Marketed for America and therefore 2.) being a bit less of a raw car with more "creature comforts"

I do believe that many autocar magazines rate the 6 as the best one from point A to point B cross country, as the Tommi Makkinen Edition was indeed the closest you could get to a street legal rally car. It had better suspension, and brakes and i believe it had more than 271 hp, but i'll have to look that up.

The VIII only has a higher top speed due to a slightl different gear ratio. besides, you'd need a straight line for that top speed to be achieved easily. I've never driven an EVO but i have had the pleasure of being in a slightly tuned 350bhp EVO VII, which was rather fast

As far as these car go, at stock, they are not performing to their full potential. The Norris Designs EVO VII has 775 BHP with a top speed of 215mph. The Jun EVO V has 500bhp and is a drifitng monster etc etc.

Its all about mods


Posted by mets4012 on Dec-04-2003 15:39:

quote:
EVO 7 are my faves



yea the 7 is the best imo


Posted by squirrelly on Dec-04-2003 19:48:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_mdma
The EVO VIII has been reported to be good but not as good as the previous models, due to it being 1.) Marketed for America and therefore 2.) being a bit less of a raw car with more "creature comforts"

I do believe that many autocar magazines rate the 6 as the best one from point A to point B cross country, as the Tommi Makkinen Edition was indeed the closest you could get to a street legal rally car. It had better suspension, and brakes and i believe it had more than 271 hp, but i'll have to look that up.

The VIII only has a higher top speed due to a slightl different gear ratio. besides, you'd need a straight line for that top speed to be achieved easily. I've never driven an EVO but i have had the pleasure of being in a slightly tuned 350bhp EVO VII, which was rather fast

As far as these car go, at stock, they are not performing to their full potential. The Norris Designs EVO VII has 775 BHP with a top speed of 215mph. The Jun EVO V has 500bhp and is a drifitng monster etc etc.

Its all about mods


The Evo VIII was made for the US, so it does have some nicer features for comfort *inside*, and obviously it was modified in the engine and made powerful, but not to the extent it could be. Doesn't matter though, still an awesome ride. *oh, the memories* zoom zoom zoom!

My favorite has to be the Evo VII, that's just because I like the engine that came with it. Not only was it beautiful, but it was powerful. Mmm, the hyped up Evo VII I saw almost made me *faint*!

After the Evo VII though, I favor the Evo V. It has great potential, and was one of the best models ever made.



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