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Trance in the US

I was just sat here wondering what kind of a state it is in.

Obviously in some areas EDM is more popular im guessing the North East coast, Florida/Atlanta, California and Chicargo but is the scene BIG in these places. Do alot of clubs play EDM whats the culture like? Is there much of a drugs culture. Are the clubs busy and is there alot of people still going "WOW what is this music, its amazing".

ONe last ques do the djs dumb down the trance at all and play more commercial stuff.

Please educate your fellow ignorant TA

nobody will go "WOW what is this music, its amazing" to trance.....lol

no boy or nobody

Those are the places in the US where I'd say its big...but big is a relative term. Its nothing like Europe (except maybe South Beach where every restaurant, clothing store, grocery, hole in the wall pub, etc. has turntables or edm blasting out the front doors). Hip Hop is (unfortunately) huge everywhere. EDM in smaller cities is pretty much non existent. For those in the scene in the big cities, its pretty strong - Chicago has had tons of talent coming through and a lot of great locals (though most say its not as strong as 2-4 years ago). Unfortunately trance nights are few and far between in Chicago - very house/prog dominated. We really dont have any big local trance djs (hopefully I'll be the first someday!) but the best and biggest parties of the year IMO have been PVD, Armin, and Tiesto -so I think the market is there for trance. The djs/radio stations here who do play occasional "trance" tracks usually play DJ Sammy, etc - which gives the whole genre a bad rap for people who are not in the know. This makes it really, really hard for someone who says they play trance to make it in Chicago.

sorry if this is off track...

What about Europe...
I know the best DJ's are Dutch, but is the biggest and best Trance scene also in Holland?
Just wondered cuz lil ol' me has NEVER NEVER been to a club before and I will be in Holland this coming summer for 2 weeks and thought I'd like to check into this.

hey, lemme know!

Re: sorry if this is off track...

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Originally posted by Digital Aura What about Europe... I know the best DJ's are Dutch, but is the biggest and best Trance scene also in Holland? Just wondered cuz lil ol' me has NEVER NEVER been to a club before and I will be in Holland this coming summer for 2 weeks and thought I'd like to check into this. hey, lemme know!

you'd be surprised how little clubs there are that have the big name djs playing in Holland, but if your here in the sunmmer then your in luck. EVERY weekend in the summer there is a big trance/dance outside festival with one of the BIG 3 (AvB, Tiesto, Ferry) always in attendance. In the UK the trance scene has gone back to its roots.

In 2000/1 every bar/club played trance and it got way too big. Now many of the big nights have all but vanished eg. Gatecrasher, Cream, MoS. Everyweek there is a quality trance line-up somewhere in the country mainly Godskitchen, Passion, Slinky, Gatecrasher (monthly Sheffied/London) but you need to travel now. IMO the scene is a lot friendlier now as people go coz they like the music as oppposed to it being the "cool" thing to do!

I can't really comment as I haven't been clubbing around here. But I have heard that the scene is very behind here. We did manage to attract Sasha and Oakenfold this year though (Pittsburgh area). Tiesto was on tour with Moby for awhile and they did a show in Philly which is across the state from me (about 6 hours).

But yeah, the scene is fairly dead around me.

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Originally posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 But yeah, the scene is fairly dead around me.

bummer, just move to Europe.

You know it makes sense.

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Originally posted by slinkyhead ONe last ques do the djs dumb down the trance at all and play more commercial stuff.

i've suspected that they do to some extent. obviously because say a tiesto doesn't play here as much as in europe he can just play a bunch of his classics as opposed to in europe...they are probably more critical and want to here all the new stuff...

i went to a tiesto set and he threw down just about every big tune he could think of it was great, but it wouldn't be great every night...

Must be nice to even have any trance concert at all.. the only thing that has ever came to New Mexico was DJ Irene and that was it.. which i wasnt to impressed.. there have been a few raves here and there nothing to great though.. I am even willing to get on a plane this summer to catch a great show..

The US scene -- much smaller in scale than the scene in Europe, first off -- seems to be in the midst of conflict between the commerical European big-hitters such as Oakenfold, Tiesto, Paul van Dyk, Ferry, etc., and the native underground such as Christopher Lawrence, particularly here in California. You have fans of EDM who have come in contact with the music via the European media outlets versus the acidy techno and breaks that have been around for years from the desert raves.

I remember back in 2001 or so, when the electronica section in my local CD store grew fivefold, the United States was billed by many as the Next Big Thing in electronic music. I think Bunkka was Oakie's attempt to catch this failed wave, as the album has seen much more popularity here, I think, than anywhere in Europe.

Then you had the Gabriel & Dresden and Markus Schulz crowd emerge, which I think is going to develop into the American variety of 'mainstream' trance and progressive, perhaps to forge a new genre or two as well. I'd rather see the dark and hard style of underground trance, which only Lawrence has really broken out of, become more popular in the United States, but in doing so it might lose that very sound which makes it unique, restricting it indefinitely to a supporting role.

Can't wait!

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if your here in the sunmmer then your in luck. EVERY weekend in the summer there is a big trance/dance outside festival with one of the BIG 3 (AvB, Tiesto, Ferry) always in attendance.

I was pretty excited about comin' to Europe ... that was before I even had this for a reason!! WOoHooT!

here in San Diego, CA, u can't listen to trance unless your asian. rather silly and stupid.
i'm hispanic and i go around with my headphones listening to trance and i meet someone. "Oh u like trance? but u don't look asian"
ugh!

the second that Alice Deejay released Better Off Alone, the Socal Scene has been ruined by 15 year old doing the old "mr roboto" and all this PLUR PLUR! shit

Re: Can't wait!

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Originally posted by Digital Aura I was pretty excited about comin' to Europe ... that was before I even had this for a reason!! WOoHooT!

what's the dates your coming over to quaint old europe

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Originally posted by djSlain here in San Diego, CA, u can't listen to trance unless your asian. rather silly and stupid. i'm hispanic and i go around with my headphones listening to trance and i meet someone. "Oh u like trance? but u don't look asian" ugh! the second that Alice Deejay released Better Off Alone, the Socal Scene has been ruined by 15 year old doing the old "mr roboto" and all this PLUR PLUR! shit

LOL, i lived in california two years and i had a project with an asian (hes chinese) that played better off alone while we were at another chinese persons house for a school project

people here don't even know what trance is

Heh, at my college I had to do a group project in a business class. The purpose was to "start" a business of some sort and present to the class a "business plan". My group's idea was to make a club that played the same kind trance that you'd hear down in Florida or in California. So, when we presented, I had burned for everyone in the class a copy of "Paul van Dyk - Live @ Energy 2003". Here was the result:

Me: "Ok, so to just give you an idea on what trance music is, here's a recording of a concert by Paul van Dyk".

One kid: "Who's Paul van Dyk?"

Another kid: "Trance music? You mean like Yanni or Enya?"

Me: "No, that's new age."

Same kid: "Is there REALLY a difference.....?"

So yea, I'm one of the few ten people in the state of Indiana that listens to electronic music.

In, my town there is nothing. I am in a relatively small town in Illinois. There is 2 stores on in my town that sell dance music, one being Best Buy and the other being Sam Goody. Best Buy doesnt have shit, lots of Louie Divito and Sam Goody has "Reflections" for $20(so i dont buy cds there).

i never really understood how anyone could say rave or EDM culture was ever MAINSTREAM or BIG when more than half the country has no idea what EDM or even "techno" music is. sad.... very sad...

IMO the U.S trance scene isnt very big.(when compared to rap, and pop) And with the RAVE act its now even harder for it to grow. All those drug addict morons overdosing at events and the blind public who live and breathe on the media's opinions are a couple to blame for this. But wat can ya do...if u in a big city u got a good chance at seeing the big headlines a couple times a year. I wish it were bigger Maybe i could get a resident job if it was.

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Originally posted by CGRumler Heh, at my college I had to do a group project in a business class. The purpose was to "start" a business of some sort and present to the class a "business plan". My group's idea was to make a club that played the same kind trance that you'd hear down in Florida or in California. So, when we presented, I had burned for everyone in the class a copy of "Paul van Dyk - Live @ Energy 2003". Here was the result: Me: "Ok, so to just give you an idea on what trance music is, here's a recording of a concert by Paul van Dyk". One kid: "Who's Paul van Dyk?" Another kid: "Trance music? You mean like Yanni or Enya?" Me: "No, that's new age." Same kid: "Is there REALLY a difference.....?" So yea, I'm one of the few ten people in the state of Indiana that listens to electronic music.

HAHA, new age
did you tell him the difference?

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Originally posted by mndeg HAHA, new age did you tell him the difference?

No, I just gave him the cd and told him to find out for himself.

its safe to say that Toronto has one of the biggest trance scenes in north america... there is a wealth of clubs
not to mention Guvernment, the best club I've ever been too on this side of the Atlantic, and pretty much gets every person on a north american tour

but relative to the european cities, north america is far behind when it comes to pretty much all genres of electronic

Im gonna be moving to london for school in a year and half, the nightlife/music scene was a major deciding factor

i can't say i agree about being far behind. Not when it comes to knowlege for those of us who actually love the scene. But its not the popular music areound canada. It still quite underground. Montreal Scene is very pumping, id say more so then toronto. We get tons and tons of great talent from europe. As for trance i don't think its as big as Techno/house in mtl, no where near as close. If there are large trance events its always a DJ from europe comming here. Not to many montreal residents play trance. In ottawa, there isn't a huge scene. It actually slowly recovering from the lost of our main club 2 years ago. And now slowly creeping back. But for the most part we all travel to montreal anyways. Mostly Prog/house in Ottawa. Almost no trance played in clubs.

I'm actually a S. Florida resident and even here, where the scene is rather larger than other areas in the U.S has seen a dramatic dropoff.

I remember in the middle to late 90's there used to be a lot of different events going on all the time related to EDM. Now all of a sudden w/ the "X" and the media, clubs have closed, parties arent thrown that frequently, and only a select group of clubs are open for dance music (most of which are on S. Beach & there isnt that many). As far as buying music, u really have to know where to look to get the good stuff, most sell records and not cds. I know w/ me and my friends, I'm always the one finding everything, then I give diff. mixes out to friends etc.

There have been attempts to do a lot w/ the Party 93.1 thing on the radio, but most music played on that station is cheese central! The only good music to come on there is the Global DJ Broadcast w/ Markus Schulz and the occasional set by George Acosta (both shows come on sunday nites 12am-4am )

The club scene on the other hand is just like the others ... we get the occasional quaterly visit from the Tiesto, Corsten, PvD, Armin, etc. Again, nothing frequent. Other than that, its locals which arent that impressive and play diff. styles than trance (breakbeat mostly and DnB).

I feel w/ the media pressure and immature pill heads out there, it just kills the scene w/o them even knowing what the "real" scene is all about. They get to go see DJ Marky Fresh (made-up) at some hole in the wall club where people go just to roll their asses off and then the clubs that really make a stand to promote the true to heart dance music suffer in the process where city officials wanna shut it all down because of these wack ass promoters & their children poppin' beans every 2 seconds (ive rolled and have nothing against it, but immature people who cant cope). Thats my stand on the EDM Scene in the U.S !

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what's the dates your coming over to quaint old europe

Last week of Aug and 1st week of Sept.

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