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I don't believe anyone has posted anything about it yet and I think it's huge news so....USA back to the moon?

I am desperatly hoping this does happen. This is going to sound incredibly idealistic, but we have become too concerned with our lives on earth over the past fifty years. It is time to turn our attention back to dreaming and the hope of exploration. I can think of no other great motivator than a trip to the moon or another planet and the positive effect it can have on a society.

We have seemingly become stuck in the "shuttle" age and it is finally time to move on. I think our focus needs to be shifted off of the petty squablings found here, and our attention turned to something greater. We've never been at a point where we have had the technology to allow us to do what we would like to do, but sadly we seem to have lost the drive. I only hope we can find it again.

I completely agree. It's a total shame that we went to the moon nearly 35 years ago, and never followed it up. Considering all of the technological advances that came out of Mercury and Apollo, that's reason enough to go again, but this time with different goals. The moon base that may be proposed later this month is a good first step in learning how to prepare for extended missions to other places.

NASA gets a bad rap for sucking up federal dollars. As government programs go, they get an extremely small portion of the federal budget and end up doing quite a bit of important work with it. But the space shuttle has been an albatross around its neck for over 20 years. It takes up such a huge portion of the NASA budget that there's little left for research. Most people forget that the shuttle is mid-1970's technology and aerodynamic design.

It's time to phase out the shuttle, and move on to other goals. I'm very pleased that the President has recognized the issue. Many here disagree with the President's vision on a lot of matters, but he's certainly forward-thinking. What I've read so far indicates that he was directly involved with this decision, personally meeting with the NASA administration to develop a plan.

i'd love to see a terraformed mars in my lifetime, an extraterrestrial society that could maintain a level of autonomy, free from colonial ties with USA, China or Europe, would be a great fait accompli for humanity, it reminds me of this nihilistic quote:

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No one really wants to swim in shit, but It's going to take a little more than chlorine to clean out this pool. Try drain and refill

A clean slate state, where humanity can hopefully learn from their mistakes and not piss in their new pool. That been said, it will probably become an extension to the missile defense shield, and an extra rock to drill for fossil fuels

I completely agree. Out with the shuttles and in with exploration.

I was actually just discussing with someone the other day about when we would start going to the moon again with the purpose of landing and educating ourselves further about the universe.

With our advances in technology, who knows? We may be able to visit other planets besides the moon in a few (10,15,10 or so) years. But with how things are going, who knows if we'd want to anymore?

i think we should only try and get to the moon when the terrorist gather up their resources and try to get to the moon

I am too, glad to see the U.S. returning to the moon, either for natural resources, exploration or both. But I think the U.S. is more concerned about the Chinese getting to moon, which is said to happen around 2020. Apparently, we do not want our so called "strategic competitor" to pass us in the development of space technology. With that in mind, ambitions are raised to have a permanent base on the moon and dismantle the I.S.S. totally. I suppose this move would be a prudent one according to the top minds in D.C.

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Originally posted by PHALPAX I am too, glad to see the U.S. returning to the moon, either for natural resources, exploration or both. But I think the U.S. is more concerned about the Chinese getting to moon, which is said to happen around 2020. Apparently, we do not want our so called "strategic competitor" to pass us in the development of space technology. With that in mind, ambitions are raised to have a permanent base on the moon and dismantle the I.S.S. totally. I suppose this move would be a prudent one according to the top minds in D.C.

Yeah, I agree that China is the only reason the US space program is getting powered up again. Well, as long as there's increased spending on space programs, I'm all happy.

yeah and it would be great for the economy here in so-cal as well since they have so much of the aerospace industry based here

it would be awesum if they decided to do it but i think it would requie a huge amount of money, money which really could be better spent at this point in time elsewhere...in short i think before we can look at other planets + satellites we need to take care of things here on our home planet the money could be spent on welfare and education, for instance, where it is def. needed right now

yes i know sum1's gonna say sumthing like "oh thats so ignorant how can you say sumthing like that" lol but i still think its true

i want to go

how about we feed the hungry first

geez silly...the moon is made of cheese...we get our hands on it again...the hungry will have a feast!

didnt we all sign up? http://www.marsrepublic.net/

i mean i thought we were just waiting to go home?????

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Originally posted by AnotherWay83 yeah and it would be great for the economy here in so-cal as well since they have so much of the aerospace industry based here it would be awesum if they decided to do it but i think it would requie a huge amount of money, money which really could be better spent at this point in time elsewhere...in short i think before we can look at other planets + satellites we need to take care of things here on our home planet the money could be spent on welfare and education, for instance, where it is def. needed right now yes i know sum1's gonna say sumthing like "oh thats so ignorant how can you say sumthing like that" lol but i still think its true

Well, with that attitude, you wouldn't be living in America. Exploration is almost always beneficial for the country's economy, and therefore for the social status of it's inhabitants.

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Well, with that attitude, you wouldn't be living in America. Exploration is almost always beneficial for the country's economy, and therefore for the social status of it's inhabitants.

so basically what u're saying is that we should choose to spend billions of dollars on rockets and space vehicles instead of on schools and welfare...

sure why not? The USA is spending billions of dollars right now on schools and welfares.. more per capita I'm sure then any other nation, and look how much good thats done them.

On a passing note I guess the billions of dollars being put into nasa haven't done wonders either

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Originally posted by tathi A clean slate state, where humanity can hopefully learn from their mistakes and not piss in their new pool.

I disagree -- the way our world is today is precisely because of human nature. We can't all of a sudden "wake up" and become different creatures. If Mars is colonized, although the way of life there may be more ideal at first (as when America was first founded), inevitably it will turn into another Earth.

Also, I have a feeling that it would not be autonomous at all. If anything, I see a colonized Mars as a "New America".

In any case, humanity going to other worlds is exciting despite the negative political quabbles and whatnot that will inevitably result. Ya can't have the best of both worlds!

i completely agree with you alcode, i was just being idealistic

been reading to much heinlein

The thing is we will never solve all of our probems here on earth. If we're waiting for a eutopian society to spring forth before we decide to explore again, we never will. If you look at us now, in comparison to humanity throughout the rest of history, we are probably in the best shape, all things considered. There will always be poverty and always be hungry people and there will always be disease and injustice. However, we have to deal with those the best we can, while continuing to move on. Again, we will never be "perfect" down on earth, but we must continue to explore and discover.

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Originally posted by AnotherWay83 so basically what u're saying is that we should choose to spend billions of dollars on rockets and space vehicles instead of on schools and welfare...

Yes. Space exploration offers new opportunities for scientific research. Scientific research brings new technologies. New technologies improve everyday life. Additional spending on welfare maintains the status quo. Additional spending on research and exploration changes the status quo, usually for the better.

Think of this little example. 10% of people in some agricultural country are starving. You can either keep spending money to give them food, or you can give that money to research new farming techniques. Once you accomplish the latter, you have the same result as earlier, and you don't have to keep spending money on feeding the poor. Just imagine how world would be like if during renaissance people decided to spend on welfare instead of research. We'd still be living in the middle ages, the quality of life would be lower than it is now. History has shown that progressive nations always end better off than those who don't favor research and development.

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