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Posted by andy on Dec-07-2003 13:52:

Question is this a good sound card??

ok change of plan

i know there are lots of threads about this but new stuff comes out daily...

Any recomendations on a good quality soundcard for producing??? I looked around but dont understand most of the specifications

a personal recomendation would be good

Thanx


Posted by Tygon on Dec-07-2003 20:56:

I think the best solution for someone getting into production without blowing the bank is an Audigy Platinum 2... take your pick of either internal or external, they'll run you about $300-400. The benefit of this card, besides actual 24bit recording is that it has gold plated RCA jacks on a separate drive with Optical and Coaxial in/out, plus midi in/out ports for any equipment you may be getting also. I would, however, recommend some sort of midi controller.

If you want something a little cheaper, stick with the Sound Blaster name... the Live is still one of the best ecconomical solutions.


Posted by trancenrg69 on Dec-07-2003 21:47:

echo mia midi, without doubt best quality you'll ever get for the price.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun...0b3593527402e3f


Posted by Vert on Dec-07-2003 22:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Dizc
I think the best solution for someone getting into production without blowing the bank is an Audigy Platinum 2... take your pick of either internal or external, they'll run you about $300-400. The benefit of this card, besides actual 24bit recording is that it has gold plated RCA jacks on a separate drive with Optical and Coaxial in/out, plus midi in/out ports for any equipment you may be getting also. I would, however, recommend some sort of midi controller.

If you want something a little cheaper, stick with the Sound Blaster name... the Live is still one of the best ecconomical solutions.


I'd stay away from creative and go with an M-Audio Revolution instead.

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Posted by DJ Chrono on Dec-08-2003 04:44:

I would go with either the M-Audio Audiophile 2496 ($200) or the M-Audio Delta 44 ($300).

I personally use the Delta44, and it's an amazing card. Great audio, low latency, and a convinient breakout box.


Posted by iLLicit on Dec-08-2003 14:12:

yeah, stay away from the Creative stuff. They look great, but when it comes to actually producing there are much better cards in the same price category.
The best beginner soundcard is IMO the M-Audio Audiophile. I have it and it works great!


Posted by hey cheggy on Dec-08-2003 14:34:

But if you plan on using more than one hardware device, a card with one midi port won't be enough. Maybe think about a better quality card with no midi and then get a designated midi interface. It all comes down to how much $ you got.


Posted by DJ Joshua H on Dec-08-2003 16:38:

I just upgraded from the integrated card tht came with the computer to the M-Audio Delta 66. The Delta 44 is the same thing only the 66 has S/PDIF for DAT and MiniDisc hookups. It's very easy to install yourself. I just recorded my first mix cd with it and the sound quality is great. As for learing about the specs, just search the internet for pro audio or sound engineering sites or search the forums.


Posted by thecYrus on Dec-08-2003 16:45:

i'm also looking out for a new soundcard.. but i need a midi input.. should i buy an additional midi interface or a more expensive soundcard?


Posted by andy on Dec-08-2003 17:17:

thanx for the advice guys still not sure which on to go with

The guy in the computer shop recomended the Terratec DMX 6 fire (�170)
http://productsen.terratec.net/modu...order=0&thold=0



And i will be getting a Midiman Oxygen 8
http://www.m-audio.com/products/midiman/oxygen8.php

read Lots of good comments about that one


Posted by alanzo on Dec-08-2003 20:58:

I'de go with an AudioPhile 2496 - I own one (it was named as the best sound card of 2002 by COmputer Music Magazine) it works and sounds great.. great for producing..


Posted by DJ Chrono on Dec-08-2003 22:54:

quote:
Originally posted by thecYrus
i'm also looking out for a new soundcard.. but i need a midi input.. should i buy an additional midi interface or a more expensive soundcard?


I use an M-Audio midisport 2x2 along with my delta44, and it works perfectly fine. There are also different configurations, if you need more midi ins/outs.

Its really up to you if you want to get a soundcard with built in midi, or a seperate box, either way works.


Posted by DeZmA on Dec-08-2003 23:12:

the need of midi depends on your setup.
how much h/w synths are you running atm?
if you use only software you don't need midi
1-2 synths is fine with onboard midi
from 3 you'll be better off with a midi patchbay

as said above stay away from creative
low budget but quality : the 24/96 cards of these brands
m-audio
echo
terratec


Posted by josh on Dec-09-2003 08:18:

I agree with other had mention.

Im holding Delta 6/6 with the external of MIDIman 2x2. I using for my Syth and my Drum machine so i just need 2 MIDI I/O unless you had few more to add in ur midi then u can consider of Unitor 8.

6/6 give 4I/O and 2 SPDIF. i find nuthing wrong and sound great to me.

But as other had mention of beginner, Audiophile 2496 is worth of it to get. Unless you wan 1/4" jack and MIDI then consider of midiman and delta 4/4, delta 6/6 of M Audio.

Or you can choose to get Protools or Emagic. THey come with MIDI also. Not bad.

Just my 2cents


Posted by Maarten on Dec-09-2003 11:09:

I use the M-Audio Delta 1010 LT and I am very happy with it.


Posted by TranceMuzik02 on Dec-30-2003 16:50:

Can you use a 5.1 speaker system with the M-audio Delta 44?, all it says is it has 4 in and 4 out.


Posted by Digital Aura on Dec-30-2003 19:06:

quote:
Can you use a 5.1 speaker system with the M-audio Delta 44?, all it says is it has 4 in and 4 out.

was wondering the same... and because I'm equally interested in PC Gaming is it good for that too?


Posted by iLLicit on Dec-30-2003 20:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Digital Aura
was wondering the same... and because I'm equally interested in PC Gaming is it good for that too?


No!


Posted by TranceMuzik02 on Dec-30-2003 20:18:

quote:
Originally posted by iLLicit
No!


can you not get a divice that you can connect with the outbox so you can hook the 5.1 speakers to? or is it best to go with M-Audio Revolution 7.1 which should work with 5.1?


Posted by iLLicit on Dec-30-2003 20:24:

I don't know much about 5.1 and 7.1 surround systems.
Can't you find any information on the M-Audio website? I don't know for sure, but I think my Audiophile supports 5.1 surround sound.

I do have some advice for you, if you want game support and surround sound support I guess you can better buy a more suitable sound card for these functions. The M-Audio are best at producing, that's what I know for sure!

You can always decide to put two cards in your machine. One for games/DVD and another for producing music.
It is expensive, but you will have the best solution I think.


Posted by TranceMuzik02 on Dec-30-2003 21:32:

quote:
Originally posted by iLLicit
I don't know much about 5.1 and 7.1 surround systems.
Can't you find any information on the M-Audio website? I don't know for sure, but I think my Audiophile supports 5.1 surround sound.

I do have some advice for you, if you want game support and surround sound support I guess you can better buy a more suitable sound card for these functions. The M-Audio are best at producing, that's what I know for sure!

You can always decide to put two cards in your machine. One for games/DVD and another for producing music.
It is expensive, but you will have the best solution I think.


I was thinking about that, but didn't think that two sound cards would work in the same computer. I currently have a shitty Creative 5.1 sound card with my 5.1 speakers. I want a better sound card like the delta 44 so i can start to produce music, but still want to keep the 5.1 speakers with it as well as studio monitors because the 5.1 speakers are good for movies and gameing.

So if anyone can explain how 2 sound cards would work in the same computer please, thanks


Posted by D South on Dec-30-2003 21:35:

M-audio Delta 44

I'm using a delta 44 and I love it.. works great.


Posted by Digital Aura on Dec-30-2003 21:39:

quote:
So if anyone can explain how 2 sound cards would work in the same computer please, thanks

I think this is achieved on a program by program basis...essentially, you have to tell each application what you want the sound to be routed through. Lets say you play the Ravensheild game, you would go into the Setup screen and select the proper card. Im sure that you set one as default for your OS in control panel or whatever, but after that...you need to individually select which card is used for each application if you want one different then the default.

nice sig there, SOUTH!


Posted by TranceMuzik02 on Dec-30-2003 22:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Digital Aura
I think this is achieved on a program by program basis...essentially, you have to tell each application what you want the sound to be routed through. Lets say you play the Ravensheild game, you would go into the Setup screen and select the proper card. Im sure that you set one as default for your OS in control panel or whatever, but after that...you need to individually select which card is used for each application if you want one different then the default.

nice sig there, SOUTH!


yeh i guess so, thanks for the help


Posted by fl0w on Dec-30-2003 23:43:

I'm going to buy myself a M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 which have been recommended by many already.

As for your choice of midikb- the oxygen8 I have to say it's an excellent kb with a very good feeling HOWEVER are you sure 2 octaves are enough? I noticed it wasn't for me (wan't to be able to play complex pads for example) so I traded it back in for an Evolution MK-249C.



quote:
Originally posted by Digital Aura
I think this is achieved on a program by program basis...essentially, you have to tell each application what you want the sound to be routed through. Lets say you play the Ravensheild game, you would go into the Setup screen and select the proper card. Im sure that you set one as default for your OS in control panel or whatever, but after that...you need to individually select which card is used for each application if you want one different then the default.


You sure about that? 'cause usually you can't run for example both internal soundcard and a pci soundblaster card without conflicts in O/S. There's probably a workaround or something though.


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