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What irks me about Copy Controlled CD'S

I like to think that I enjoy buying cd's (especially since they have dropped the prices). I've always liked the real thing better than the burned copies. So I bought the Chemical Brothers 2cd set today and I see copy controlled right on the cd, which I have no problem with. If EMI (company that put out the cd) wants to do that then great, they are entitled to because they own the copyright. I like to use my discman all the time to go jogging and when I have to take public transit and that's really why I buy cd's to listen to while doing things. So 4pm, I'm going jogging, which I do everyday (gotta train for that marathon i plan to run in 2005 or 2006). Anyway I take my discman with me because I enjoy listening to music. So before I leave I put cd 1 in the discman and press play and the cd won't read. It read find in my stereo and my pc but not my discman. I tried cd 2, same problem but I put another cd in my discman and it works perfectly. I mean if EMI and other big companies want to keep people who enjoy buying cd's then they need to allow us to listen to the music in our discmans or anywhere. I have no problem if I cannot copy a cd to mp3 (even tho I know many ways around it, if I wanted to copy it, which I don't). Anyone had this problem or problems with copy controlled cd's?

Re: What irks me about Copy Controlled CD'S

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Originally posted by torontotrance I like to think that I enjoy buying cd's (especially since they have dropped the prices). I've always liked the real thing better than the burned copies. So I bought the Chemical Brothers 2cd set today and I see copy controlled right on the cd, which I have no problem with. If EMI (company that put out the cd) wants to do that then great, they are entitled to because they own the copyright. I like to use my discman all the time to go jogging and when I have to take public transit and that's really why I buy cd's to listen to while doing things. So 4pm, I'm going jogging, which I do everyday (gotta train for that marathon i plan to run in 2005 or 2006). Anyway I take my discman with me because I enjoy listening to music. So before I leave I put cd 1 in the discman and press play and the cd won't read. It read find in my stereo and my pc but not my discman. I tried cd 2, same problem but I put another cd in my discman and it works perfectly. I mean if EMI and other big companies want to keep people who enjoy buying cd's then they need to allow us to listen to the music in our discmans or anywhere. I have no problem if I cannot copy a cd to mp3 (even tho I know many ways around it, if I wanted to copy it, which I don't). Anyone had this problem or problems with copy controlled cd's?

thats a great point...haven't had the problem very often though...

Yeah, I have the exact same problem with my new mp3/cd-player. The old one reads them just fine.

What I really don't understand, though, is that I can copy these "copy controlled" cd's without any kind of problems whatsoever.

So now I have to buy the cd, rip it and burn it to a blank disc if I want to play it on my discman... makes me wonder why I even buy anything anymore.

That really pisses me off!

Indeed, the logic is hard to understand. If you want to discourage people from burning and downloading, surely you should make it easier for people buying music not harder.

A problem I've had is trying to rip a copy controlled cd into the catalogue for a radio station but it wouldnt read it. It just came up with its own little media player. So fuck it, I won't rip it and the artist doesnt get airplay. Way to go

I just wonder about the people who take public transportation and take the discman to listen to stuff. I guess that discourages the real cd buyers. Smart thinking on EMI's part, I sent them a nasty email saying why make the true cd buyers angry?

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Originally posted by torontotrance I just wonder about the people who take public transportation and take the discman to listen to stuff. I guess that discourages the real cd buyers. Smart thinking on EMI's part, I sent them a nasty email saying why make the true cd buyers angry?

i agree
i take public transit everyday to school and my discman is crucial! I have a couple copy-controlled cds, but I have yet to experience the problem. Does this problem only occur if your discman plays mp3 cds as well?

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Originally posted by Strike i agree i take public transit everyday to school and my discman is crucial! I have a couple copy-controlled cds, but I have yet to experience the problem. Does this problem only occur if your discman plays mp3 cds as well?

It depends on the disc as well.
For example, my copy of Ferry Corsten - World Tour Washington plays just fine but Blank & Jones - Relax won't play at all.

Both are copy controlled but only 1 of them works... ???

Avoid them like the plague!

My main stereo refuses to play them, which basically means I can't listen to them unless I bypass the protection, rip them, and burn them onto a CDR.

My stereo plays them fine but it's only those 2 cd's on my discman that has the problem.

Well, maybe these discs doesn't sell under the "red-book" standard that covers the cd-audio format. They are, or at least should be labeled.

and for what?

The Copy Protection is stopping what exactly?
I mean, as long as you don't copy the disc and you rip each track seperately it's useless!
And who of us has tried to copy it only to find out it cant be copied and says, " Oh well, thats that, I tried!"
NO. Of course we then try ripping which works fine!
What a dumb industry...it seems the underground technology is always years ahead of corporate industry.
I have found CD's cheaper as well, and have purchased 3 or 4 within the last month or so... but I always rip em to my hard drive, cuz truth be told, I'm always on the computer and the sounds sytem on it BLOWS AWAY my stereo.
WAKE UP INDUSTRY!!

you never said what cd it was ?


was it new JayZ Album ?

it mite just be the diskman... mine does that from time to time...

on certain cds it will skip or not read em... but my stereo and pc playes em fine...

I agree.

It sucks.



RIAA

the copy thing is stupid if it's so highly encrypted that some players will not recognise the cd in the first place. In the end it's the artist who sufffers.

Take natalie imbruglia - white lilies island. a fantastic album. Many of the cd's were returned by the customers to the shops because they were having difficulties actually getting the thing to play!

I have the first natalie imbruglia album on the original cd
I have the second album as an illegal copy..............

actually it's not my discman, my discman has played every mp3cd and cd I've put in it since I bought it in Jan 2003. This is the first disc that has not worked. I tried both cd's in my brother's discman and it did not work. So I sent a mean email to EMI telling them how freaking fed up I was because I use the discman often and if I can't listen to stuff on discman, why should I bother buying EMI. I pointed out I buy cd's because I want to but they are making me think twice.

and now they are not responding to you, so you wait and wait again...

it was not a mean worded email....it was worded in such a way, I wanted to know why it was not working in my cd player. I even put the make down in my email. I want it to work in that discman of mine because i take it everywhere pratically. I liked the cds tho but they are taking the copy control thing to the max. I mean you push shift to get around it but I mean if it does not work in discmans, are normal cd buyers actually going to buy those cd's. No, they will steer clear of them. Why piss off your customers? and then they have this crap at the back of the cd on the back near the 2nd cd. All about stealing and shit, I mean I bought it, so obviously I'm not stealing it. I mean if you want to control your own copyrighted material then great, by all means go ahead but why should my cd's not work in discman?. I want to listen to music but if the stuff I buy won't work, why buy?

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Originally posted by torontotrance I mean I bought it, so obviously I'm not stealing it.

Good point, and because of you as customer i think EMI should to their best to at least keep you satisfied. As long as they keep trying to protect cds in a agressive way, i think they should not be surprised if cdsells are lower and lower... The whole industry is totally doing the opposit of what they should, entertain people.

And to add: cdsells are behind because of several reasons: people don't have the money to buy 10 cds a month anymore thanx to the freefall of the economy, people just don't want to pay 20 euros for a timberlakealbum and last one....and so on ...

Tho the funny thing was, the chemical brothers cd is worth 20 bucks (2cd's). Normally they would sell it for 36 bucks, so that is a bonus but not being able to play those cd's on my discman pisses me off. I guess I'll just end up buying NON EMI cd's to play on my discman. Their loss, not mine.

havent seen any anti copy cd's yet, but i dont think its a good thing for me. You see, usually i rip the CD to my computer and dump it onto my iPod with my other CD's, so if this becomes into full effect on all future releases, id rather just download it and upload to my iPod to save the trouble worrying about anti copy crap.

Copy protected cd's are labeled aren't they ?
And i dont think they are even selling it as a "red-book" cd-audio standard. So what we have here, are customers not knowing enough about what they are buying ?

And if you have bought 1 item, and it doesnt work, does that give you the right to steal the next item ?

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