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Posted by djSlain on Dec-10-2003 02:30:

Return of the King

I had never heard of Tolkein or his work until i saw it unfold on the big screen. It was well hyped by a lot of forums i visit. I love Fellowship. It was kind of long, and that's only because the world is so immerse and deep. How can they fit thousands of years of Middle Earth on camera? Peter Jackson has done such great work and i am absolutley in love with the way he directs. From camera angles, to the beautiful (and i mean BEAUTIFUL!!!!) music from Howard Shore. Fellowship is definently one of the best movies i have ever seen. the ending was so great, it almost made me cry (i'm a crybaby anyways). "but that is not for you to decide, all you have to do is what do to with the time that is given to you". it was so deep! fellowship is on the top of my list, right there with Shawshank and Gladiator.
Two Towers was an excellent film too. If there is one thing i notice about Peter Jackson, it's that he is absolutely talented in wrapping up the movie. Some movies end way to fast (SWAT) and some movies end way too slow (matrix3). Pure talent. I felt the angst of war, the dedication to friendship, the fear, the triumph, the... well everything. It always cheers me up to hear the final lines of Frodo and Sam, "samwise the brave"
I can only expect another hit with Return of the King. i haven't read the novels, so i'm in for a surprise to see the new twists and turns of the hobbits. I can only hope Gollum ultimately makes the right choice. that frodo and sam become saviors of middle earth. that evil will be gone and good will once again live on forever.


Posted by starglider on Dec-10-2003 02:39:

I almost wish I was in your position and could see the films without knowing what's going to happen. I must agree with you though, and I believe RotK has the potential to be the best of the three. I think FotR was slightly better than TTT; I preferred the former's soundtrack and also Boromir's death and the whole scene leading up to it was really well done. Also there were a few bits in TTT where they overdid the CG a bit. But I loved both and await RotK... just too bad I have an exam on the 17th.

And I won't say anything about it except that every character plays their part...


Posted by Poncho on Dec-10-2003 02:54:

lotr 1, 2, and 3 + an ounce of weed + all day movie marathon in my local movie theater = one stoned me.

i plan on bringing a sack lunch to that shit.


Posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 on Dec-10-2003 02:58:

I love the Lord of the Rings movie series. Truly a modern classic for sure. I can't wait to see Return of the King. I too have not read the books, so I don't really know what is going to happen.

I'm having a few of my friends over this weeking and we're going to watch the previous movies on DVD on my 5.1 surround sound.


Posted by jessicah on Dec-10-2003 03:13:

Read This!

I actually was not at all impressed with the Two Towers....it didn't flow very well, I didn't think, and they changed way too much from the book, like Treebeard and Faramir, who were entirely different characters with different motivations...that bothered me a bit. Gollum was awesome though.

speaking of Gollum, anyone want to write a 10-page paper on him for me? I'm in a Tolkien class and my essay's due next week

kidding of course...

Speaking of book adaptations to film, has anyone seen the movie Timeline with Paul Walker?

[presently chillin with some sasha & digweed]


Posted by J.L. on Dec-10-2003 04:35:

quote:
Originally posted by jessicah
I actually was not at all impressed with the Two Towers....it didn't flow very well, I didn't think, and they changed way too much from the book, like Treebeard and Faramir, who were entirely different characters with different motivations...that bothered me a bit. Gollum was awesome though.

speaking of Gollum, anyone want to write a 10-page paper on him for me? I'm in a Tolkien class and my essay's due next week

kidding of course...

Speaking of book adaptations to film, has anyone seen the movie Timeline with Paul Walker?

[presently chillin with some sasha & digweed]



OMG a new girl! Hi2U



Posted by TwoPlow on Dec-10-2003 05:36:

I read the series when I was like, 7.

So far, the movies have been incredible. They make me happy. Both were done really well. So well, that when I go see Return Of The King, I'll probably need to bring a change of pants. It's such a good ending, and such a good book in general, it's about 50 times better than Fellowship and Two Towers combined.

And the previews look incredibly bad-ass. Seriously. Good times.

I think they changed Faramir slightly, but they sorta had to. They couldn't incorporate much of his backstory into the movie, so they had to change his character a bit. The extended version does a much better job with that part, though. Treebeard, I thought was fine. Aside from not mentioning the Entwives, it didn't really seem to change him that much. He was still a bad-ass orc-smashing hardcore old tree guy. And the graphics for him are absolutely amazing. In fact, the graphics are probably one of the better parts of these movies, which is strange coming from me, considering how I don't really care about the graphics much.

Longest post I've made in a while. I'm a cool guy.


Posted by starglider on Dec-10-2003 05:52:

quote:
Originally posted by TwoPlow
I read the series when I was like, 7.

So far, the movies have been incredible. They make me happy. Both were done really well. So well, that when I go see Return Of The King, I'll probably need to bring a change of pants. It's such a good ending, and such a good book in general, it's about 50 times better than Fellowship and Two Towers combined.

And the previews look incredibly bad-ass. Seriously. Good times.

I think they changed Faramir slightly, but they sorta had to. They couldn't incorporate much of his backstory into the movie, so they had to change his character a bit. The extended version does a much better job with that part, though. Treebeard, I thought was fine. Aside from not mentioning the Entwives, it didn't really seem to change him that much. He was still a bad-ass orc-smashing hardcore old tree guy. And the graphics for him are absolutely amazing. In fact, the graphics are probably one of the better parts of these movies, which is strange coming from me, considering how I don't really care about the graphics much.

Longest post I've made in a while. I'm a cool guy.


Agreed that Faramir is better in the extended version. However doesn't Treebeard mention the entwives in the long cut also? I seem to remember as much. Anyway I thought the ents were generally well done.

And the graphics were about as good as could be expected, however there were a couple instances where CG work obviously prevailed. Can't be helped I suppose; they did a remarkable job all things considered. What I am hoping is that they manage to keep Legolas' oh-so-camera-friendly stunts somewhere with the realm of believability. I highly doubt an elf could ride a shield down a staircase while firing off arrows at his usual blistering pace.

But that's just nitpicking.


Posted by Streakfury on Dec-10-2003 11:38:

I wasn't too impressed with the first one, but I think that's because I didn't realise how big Lord Of The Rings is, or how well it's portrayed in those films. I cant wait for the third one now, gonna be just as big as Revolutions (without the monumental let-down, hopefully)


Posted by arctic on Dec-10-2003 13:47:

I too know what's going to happen, as I read the books when I was around 13 from memory.

Still can't wait to see it all on the big screen though


Posted by butterfly on Dec-10-2003 17:16:

one more week!


Posted by diego on Dec-10-2003 17:26:

i was just waiting for some lotr topic to appear, took a while


Posted by jessicah on Dec-10-2003 17:41:

quote:
Originally posted by kewlness
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hahah HI THERE

What I meant about Treebeard being changed was that the HOBBITS had to pressure him to do all that orc-killing good stuff, he didn't make the decision on his own, whereas in the book he was all-powerful and made the decision himself. Having the hobbits make the decision just sorta undermined his character, to me. Made him less of a leader in a way.

As for Faramir I can understand the time constraints the movie places on the characters...and I really am impressed by how LotR as a whole has stuck true to the books...but I thought with Boromir already having been corrupted to the Ring, Faramir was just too much..it kinda sends the message that all men are like Boromir, except for Aragorn...it just kinda sullies Faramir's character.

But yeah as a whole they are great films, did you hear Peter Jackson wants to bring the Hobbit to the big screen as well? that would be awesome, I think.


Posted by xKaoSx on Dec-10-2003 19:48:

I read the books 15 years ago and I forget almost everything that has happened till I saw the movies- so it's sorta cool.
I still dont remember what happens in the end.

NO SPOILERS FAWKERS!


Posted by PHALPAX on Dec-10-2003 22:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Poncho
lotr 1, 2, and 3 + an ounce of weed + all day movie marathon in my local movie theater = one stoned me.

i plan on bringing a sack lunch to that shit.




Sounds like a good plan to me


Posted by Poncho on Dec-10-2003 23:38:

the thing i like best about LOTR movies, is taht they didn't clean it up at all. People are covered with dirt. The women don't have expensive looking done up hair. Everything just looks so authentic. Moves like The Mummy, or Pirates of the Caribean just have that dulled down look. I hate that.


Posted by djSlain on Dec-11-2003 02:21:

i was watching the extra DVDs on my extended Fellowship. i can't believe they can go barefoot through all that terrain. imagine how hard it was for Elijah and Sam(name?) to be climbing rocks as those scene in Two Towers. true dedication really pays off.
well, in my dvd, things did end up taking a very dangerous turn from the barefoot walking.
the very end of fellowship, we see frodo in the river and telling sam that he is "going alone." Then sam runs into the water. Suddenly sam stops and yells in pain. It ends up there was a piece of glass in the water. ouch! what is glass doing in such the beautiful lands of New Zealand?!


Posted by xtr3m on Dec-11-2003 03:02:

Never read it. Saw only a part from the 2nd movie.
But I have to say this: Liv Tyler = yum.


Posted by djSlain on Dec-13-2003 20:12:

i have a family trip to mexico for a week when it comes out. maybe i can go for the teusday midnight show. ugh, the best part about watching movies is being the first to watch it. But i'll have to wait 2 weeks, go into an empty theater, and be amazed, all by myself.


Posted by Z1D on Dec-13-2003 20:51:

You know, originally I thought that the change of Faramir's character in the movie was quite bothersome, but someone made an interesting point to me about it. If you consider that in the book, even Aragorn is tempted by the ring, and since Aragorn is like the king of all men, it seems odd that Faramir would not have been at all tempted.


Posted by arctic on Dec-14-2003 00:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Z1D
You know, originally I thought that the change of Faramir's character in the movie was quite bothersome, but someone made an interesting point to me about it. If you consider that in the book, even Aragorn is tempted by the ring, and since Aragorn is like the king of all men, it seems odd that Faramir would not have been at all tempted.


That is quite interesting come to think about it. Then again, it could be something to to with Argorn's blood line.

Oh yes, apparently Peter Jackson is extermely keen to make the Hobbit into aq movie! I'm on a high because of that; the Hobbit was my introduction into tolkien, and is by far my favotire Tolkien book; I still love it.


Posted by TidyAL on Dec-14-2003 01:49:

gandolf rulez


Posted by SuspicionVandit on Mar-29-2006 22:14:

I got my 3 packages today of each collectors edition for the series. Fellowship,Two Towers and Return of the Ring. Extended along with 3 extra discs with tons of behind-the-scenes documentaries.
I'm at the very end of Fellowship right now with Sam drowning. Oh man, such a beautiful movie. Now i finally have something to put on my wall, a map of Middle-Earth.
Unfortunately, I don't have any popcorn, nor the means to walk up the street for some so I'm eating Trix out of the box. No coke either, but there's some Capri Sun. I wonder how long the extended Return of the King is.


Posted by Zoso on Mar-30-2006 02:37:

If you haven't done so, I can highly recommend reading the novels. You'll learn a lot about the flow of things that Jackson chose/was forced to change/edit for the films. Good stuff.


Posted by Marc Summers on Mar-30-2006 02:41:

Re: Return of the King

quote:
Originally posted by djSlain
I had never heard of Tolkein or his work until i saw it unfold on the big screen.


n00b


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