just bougtht a cd turntable, please help ...

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Posted by PVD fanatic on Dec-10-2003 10:48:

just bougtht a cd turntable, please help ...

I'm excited, just got a cd turntable. Now my question is this :

1) I know your supposed to buy cds and spin them but it gets so damn expensive, right ? So I'm sure your not "supposed" to, but can you rip/burn songs off let's say the HUB, and put them in ur turntable, and still expect a high quality of sound ????

2) I see sales for cd Samples, and Loops and stuff.. What exactly is that used for? Do they have cds with FX on them, if so are they any good?

Thanks for your help, much appreciated in advance.

Posted by Billabong on Dec-10-2003 10:54:

You wanted the dj booth, i see you already posted there, so im not sure what you posted on here.

Posted by sash on Dec-10-2003 11:18:

Re: just bougtht a cd turntable, please help ...

Posted by Lepric0rN on Dec-10-2003 11:28:

Re: just bougtht a cd turntable, please help ...

quote:
Originally posted by PVD fanatic
I'm excited, just got a cd turntable. Now my question is this :

1) I know your supposed to buy cds and spin them but it gets so damn expensive, right ? So I'm sure your not "supposed" to, but can you rip/burn songs off let's say the HUB, and put them in ur turntable, and still expect a high quality of sound ????

2) I see sales for cd Samples, and Loops and stuff.. What exactly is that used for? Do they have cds with FX on them, if so are they any good?

Thanks for your help, much appreciated in advance.

1) yeh you get the same quality but im sure you can afford cd in the store, but here in norway its expensive for a cd but maybe its cheaper there you came from? 20$ for a collect cd here in Norway.

2) hm i dont know

Posted by Nell on Dec-10-2003 11:29:

don't mean to sound too harsh but..

SOMEONE BAN THIS **** FROM TA AND THE HUB NOW!!!!

buy the cds ffs you cheap ass twat.

fin.

Posted by PVD fanatic on Dec-10-2003 11:44:

quote:
SOMEONE BAN THIS **** FROM TA AND THE HUB NOW!!!!

LOL. Are you serious? You have nothing better to do than to say some ignorant, loudmouthed as* s**t, like that? I was merely asking .... You think everyone has money to buy cds and records, whenever they want ?

Man your mom must have fed you paint thinner when you were a kid NELL.

I feel sorry for your a**.

Speaking of which, wasn't "Nell" The name of a jodie foster movie, where she lives in some backward a** country forest, and is completely mute and has her own language?

Figures, looks like thats where you've been hiding all this time, ey?

Posted by Nell on Dec-10-2003 12:33:

nope.

im just sick to death of the amount of free music grabbers like yourself, that love to hold out their hands and keep asking for more. if you can afford cd decks, a PC, internet connection and the clothes you were wearing in your avatar b4 you changed it, you can obviously afford cds. your are one of the reasons the likes of hooj choons collapsed, because you would rather DL the mp3 and never ever buy the release. hell hooj were only asking for �1 per cd for the entire month of august, but unfortunately people like you decided they still couldnt be arsed to part with any cash, and continued to DL the music without buying at all (hooj is just an example).

ten quid says you only signed up with Ta in hte first place to get on the frickin hub. otherwise if you read/posted here often enough, you would be able to predict that you would undoubtedly get flames for such a post, baiting the buyers of music.

end of rant.

Posted by nchs09 on Dec-10-2003 12:55:

so much anger in this thread

so young....so angry

DAMN THAT RAP MUSIC

Posted by basd on Dec-10-2003 12:59:

I agree with Nell. Though I wouldn't have put it in such a harsh way (but hey, at least it's clear )

People shouldn't just decide to buy equipment and then end up having no money left and resorting to play burned CDs. I hate it. Especially since there are enough people spending sh*tloads of money on vinyl and / or original CDs.

By the way, of course there is a difference between burned MP3s and original CDs. The difference in file size between WAV and MP3 means data is lost when encoding to MP3. It's mostly the inaudible frequencies but there still is a difference (especially on 128 kbps).

To answer your 2nd question (hey I'm a nice guy ) :
sample CDs can be used for production. They don't contain tracks, they contain samples (of which you can build tracks, for example in FruityLoops or Reason). No use for them in DJing, only producing.

If there are complete loops on them (which are built from various samples), then they can be used by DJs, to add something to their tracks or mixes..

Posted by Nell on Dec-10-2003 13:04:

quote:
Originally posted by basd
I agree with Nell. Though I wouldn't have put it in such a harsh way (but hey, at least it's clear )

yeah im having a bad day normally i just wouldnt bother replying!

soem of those loops cds are great btw, you can also use them in sets if you are using 3 inputs like 2 decks and a cd player to do soem wicked things, but i find it dosent work well with trance + prog, more housey stuff. ive never use dhtem production wise yet so i cant comment.

Posted by trewqy on Dec-10-2003 13:25:

LOL!

"SO YOUNG SO ANGRY!!DAMN THAT RAP MUSIC!"

hahahaha a little too much dr dolittle 2, doncha think?

Still the way that chameleon says that line just cracks me up!

Anyways my 2 cents.

Sure if u wanna be a dj, the least you can do is support other djs by buying their cds.I mean who knows, you might turn pro and when u wanna sell records, people would just download them of the net.(And FFS, please dont mention the hub in the forums anymore )

Well, if you DO wanna download music, go ahead and download those songs from britney spears or justin timberlake who are already rich farks who dont really care if their album sells or not.

Its already hard enough cause trance generally is basically underground in most parts of the world.

Posted by PVD fanatic on Dec-10-2003 13:37:

quote:
im just sick to death of the amount of free music grabbers like yourself, that love to hold out their hands and keep asking for more. if you can afford cd decks, a PC, internet connection and the clothes you were wearing in your avatar b4 you changed it, you can obviously afford cds. your are one of the reasons the likes of hooj choons collapsed, because you would rather DL the mp3 and never ever buy the release. hell hooj were only asking for �1 per cd for the entire month of august, but unfortunately people like you decided they still couldnt be arsed to part with any cash, and continued to DL the music without buying at all (hooj is just an example).

quote:
ten quid says you only signed up with Ta in hte first place to get on the frickin hub. otherwise if you read/posted here often enough, you would be able to predict that you would undoubtedly get flames for such a post, baiting the buyers of music.

First of all it was just a question Nell, no need to jump out of ur pants and give urself a freagin heartattack. Secondly, i've got 2 technics, and about 240 12". So dont you worry, i'm supporting the music just like you. I picked up a cd turntable cause yes, I make plenty of money and can afford to. But what am I going to do? Go and track down EVERY SINGLE CD THAT I EVER WANTED , just to support the music? NO. What you dont' burn ANY CDS your whole life? Cause you'd be a HYPOCRITE if you did, NELL.

YOu came off arrogant and rude, and that's why I came back at like you I Did. But geesh, it was a question. Bad day or not, dont judge me like you know me from one signle question.

I've been a TA for awhile, and no i didn't join to be on the hub, cause if u know, not all TA's are on the HUB, smarty.

Secondly, you can keep your ten quid.

Thirdly Nell, thanks for the adivce on the loops.

Posted by PVD fanatic on Dec-10-2003 13:38:

quote:
basd-sample CDs can be used for production. They don't contain tracks, they contain samples (of which you can build tracks, for example in FruityLoops or Reason). No use for them in DJing, only producing.

thanks for the info basd, Appreciate it.

Posted by Nell on Dec-10-2003 14:23:

dont mean to be a smart arse here, but cd singles and maxi's cost less than the average 12" and are generalyl better value for money in the maxi's case when you get 8 full mixes etc.

good places to get cds reasonably or cheaply priced:

www.radikal.com <-- great for those of you in hte US, i import alot fo stuff from them

www.cdzone.co.uk <-- massive database of stuff but only half is in stock.

www.dancegrooves.com <--small database but always in stock.

www.hooj.com <-- for all hooj/lost language releases
www.platipus.co.uk <-- for all platipus releases
www.hmv.co.uk
www.centralstationrec.com

incase you cant tell im a CD collector

as for the burning stuff...

well i burn the latest stuff that isnt avalible to buy or what i dont have on promo, otherwise no im a big collector and will do anything i can to track the cd down, secodn hand or otherwise.

Posted by PVD fanatic on Dec-10-2003 16:35:

big up to Nell

thanks Nell.
I appreciate it very much.

Posted by tall paul 2 on Dec-10-2003 16:41:

Pheww... the love is back.. was getting worried there for a bit..
Good luck with the turntables!

Posted by brian on Dec-10-2003 17:59:

I don't know who told you that MP3s are going to have the same quality as CDs, but that is completely incorrect. You might not be able to hear the difference but if you ever play live at a club or on a decent system you'll hear the difference.

Quite a few sound engineers (both on and off TA) have confirmed this along with detailed explanations, and several DJs have confirmed the difference in quality as well.

You can afford the CDs

Posted by umes23 on Dec-10-2003 19:08:

yo pvd fanatic... tranceaddict is a just a fucking timebomb for posts like this now. people don't give a shit whether or not you are doing something bad... they will just blow up in your face without thinking.

it is perfectly understandable for any DJ who doesn't receive all the latest goods as promotional material to want access to new tunes that are only d/lable. this is the reason why many people get cd decks in addition to regular 1200s.

basically, for mixing purposes, go for the biggest mp3 files and they will have the best bitrate, ie. less quality loss in the wav to mp3 compression.

Posted by PVD fanatic on Dec-10-2003 20:20:

thank you all ... like i said.. it was just a question... i appreciate all the information posted...

Posted by brian on Dec-11-2003 00:08:

quote:
Originally posted by umes23
it is perfectly understandable for any DJ who doesn't receive all the latest goods as promotional material to want access to new tunes that are only d/lable. this is the reason why many people get cd decks in addition to regular 1200s.

I wouldn't necessarily say it's the reason. It's one of many. Being able to burn your own tracks without paying thousands to have good quality vinyls of it pressed is much higher on the list, of course. And being sent CDR promos from producers...and getting a track on CD that isn't available on vinyl (better quality than mp3). Etc etc etc...

Posted by umes23 on Dec-11-2003 00:11:

quote:
Originally posted by brian
I wouldn't necessarily say it's the reason. It's one of many. Being able to burn your own tracks without paying thousands to have good quality vinyls of it pressed is much higher on the list, of course. And being sent CDR promos from producers...and getting a track on CD that isn't available on vinyl (better quality than mp3). Etc etc etc...

of course! for a professional, yes...
i was mainly thinking of amature or unknown DJs.

Posted by brian on Dec-11-2003 00:18:

quote:
Originally posted by umes23
of course! for a professional, yes...
i was mainly thinking of amature or unknown DJs.

Ahh, yes, got it now. Agreed.

You never know, though; sometimes amateur DJs get unexpected surprises One producer in particular sent me a few tracks...needless to say I was ecstatic to have a CDJ at the time.