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The last samurai

I saw it on friday when it came out and I thought it was amazing. I used to do a lot of traditional martial arts long time ago and have always been fascinated with the japanese culture and the way of the samurai...Regardless of that though I think the movie was just amazing...Anyone else saw it? Comments?

white man supposebly being "master samurai".. can only happen in the last samurai..

ok on topic: i've heard it's a good movie and the story is EXACTLY as the ancient japanese "meiji" era where swords ruled in that time.. i'm plannin to see it soon and most likely will not be dissapointed as i am interested the battles that take place.. and im aware of the "gattling gun" that was created too..

Hey mate

I saw it and it was a pretty good, emotional movie. That last charge where the Japanese Army busts out the gattling gun....wow. It doesn't surprise me though that Edward Zwick, the director, also directed GLORY (1989) about black soldiers in the American Civil War. Zwick is very good at filming war epics like these.

A few things though...the historical "accuracy" of this movie is non-existent. It was actually British and French officers who trained the Japanese Army in modern 19th century tactics and NOT Americans....and it was a combination of British, French, Russian AND American military arms that was negotiated...not just American. But American movies always stretch and distort history like this.

And I also think that they could have done this movie without Tom Cruise. His character, really, wasn't necessary. The Japanese actors were great and I think if Katsumoto had been the central character, the movie would have been better. But Hollywood always has to have the big American star in the lead....

Overal...8.5/10

I cannot fucking wait for Return of the King!

The battles were definitely epic and amazing youre right...
And the actor playing Katsumoto was just amazing he definitely deserves a lot of acknowledgement...Also the actor who was the "trainer" I forgot his name but he was the teaching others how to use the sword and etc...
I think towards the end most of the people in the theatre were crying very emotional indeed.

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Originally posted by starsearcher The battles were definitely epic and amazing youre right... And the actor playing Katsumoto was just amazing he definitely deserves a lot of acknowledgement...Also the actor who was the "trainer" I forgot his name but he was the teaching others how to use the sword and etc... I think towards the end most of the people in the theatre were crying very emotional indeed.

yeah totally...I'm usually quite an emotionless person and NEVER get teared up in a theatre....but I was a little choked up after watching that last charge and seeing them all get mown down by the machine guns. Many people are anti-war these days and rightly so, but there's nothing like watching courage and valour on the battlefield in films.

..will not succumb to american blockbusters

I hope this doesn't ignite Oscar buzz for Cruise..!

I saw it last night (good ol' cheapy Tuesdays)

anyways, it was probably the best movie i've seen in 2 years ....in terms of that type of movie. I thought it was better than Gladiator.

Anyone else die of laughter from the Emperor?? Gosh what was up with his girlish voice?? It killed me. The entire audience was laughing.!

saw it last night...amazing movie. The guy playing Katsumoto deserves AT LEAST an oscar nomination. I loved the battles too; very intense...and the music was great as well.

can't wait to see it, maybe cuz i'm secretly hoping that its something like the masterpiece that is james clavell's novel "shogun"...

although judging by the reviews, its far from it

*sigh*

Hmmmm I haven't seen shogun so I can't really compare but this is definitely a masterpiece...I agree pretty much with everything said above, but I'm a Cruise fan so I don't agree that he was out of place...I'll give him lots of credit for putting so much effort in it though because unlike most action/martial arts movies where actors "learn to twist and kick" he was VERY good at what he was doing, for the short time of learning he did a very good job!

Anyways if you stil havent seen it and are going then hope you like as it as much as we did

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Originally posted by TranceGeek can't wait to see it, maybe cuz i'm secretly hoping that its something like the masterpiece that is james clavell's novel "shogun"... although judging by the reviews, its far from it *sigh*

Ohh its very far from it. But its a nice movie anyway. I agree with others in that the Japanese actors did an awesome job and the movie could have been done a little different to take the spotlight from Cruise. I dunno about it being better then Gladiator though.

I mentioned this b4 in a different thread. If you wanna see good sammurai movies then you have to watch old school Kurosawa movies. They were amazing.

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Originally posted by che I mentioned this b4 in a different thread. If you wanna see good sammurai movies then you have to watch old school Kurosawa movies. They were amazing.

Kurosawa is a totally different story! He's a legend

HHmmmmm interesting gonna have to check those out then
And youre going to St. Petersburg? Wow it's so beautiful there...Gorgeous city in my opinion but I haven't been in ages. Have fun!!!

just got back from seeing it... Overall, i thought it was a very well done movie... i liked the way how they depicted the situation between traditional japanese beliefs and modernization of japan...

however, my main gripes in the movie were:
1. the emperor... what a wimp
2. wallace should have died at the battle.. him surviving just doesn't make sense
3. wallace and that japanese girl never got it on! so close!! lol

but my favourite character from that movie is katsumoto... man.. he is one badass lol

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Originally posted by starsearcher HHmmmmm interesting gonna have to check those out then And youre going to St. Petersburg? Wow it's so beautiful there...Gorgeous city in my opinion but I haven't been in ages. Have fun!!!

thanx, I can't wait..

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Originally posted by kewlness just got back from seeing it... Overall, i thought it was a very well done movie... i liked the way how they depicted the situation between traditional japanese beliefs and modernization of japan... however, my main gripes in the movie were: 1. the emperor... what a wimp 2. wallace should have died at the battle.. him surviving just doesn't make sense 3. wallace and that japanese girl never got it on! so close!! lol but my favourite character from that movie is katsumoto... man.. he is one badass lol

The movie ends with the implication of them "getting it on", which is just another hokey ending if you ask me. And yes...the film would have been much better had Cruise just been wasted at the end along with all the other Samurai. It didn't make sense that he was the only survivor. Cut that cheesey last 10 minutes of fake tears and you would have had a near perfect movie in my opinion.

i just saw this today and i must say i really liked it... the story line was quite interesting and it unfolded very well without a hint of cheesyness... the little subtle referals to the american indians was a great touch in my opinion, and drew quite constructive parallels... the characters were very original too and the casting was just brilliant, and as someone mentioned, the dude that played katsumoto definitely deserves some recognition!

definitely recommend this film to anyone...

I thought this movie was one of the better movies that I've seen lately. Parts of it were kind of cheesy and I think that was partly due to Tom Cruise taking on the lead role. The attention to detail was phenominal as was the whole story line. I liked the fact that the true samurais were standing up for what they believe in. The theme as mentioned above shown in this movie could be applied to many situations and events in todays society. I also agree with others that Cruise should have died in the end with the rest of them. It was a very compelling movie and I would recommend it to everyone.

4.5/ 5 stars

the movie was amazing.

they really got down the samurai theme well.

Just a long shot, but has anyone here read Sun Tzu's "Art of War", written some 2,500 years ago?

I have...but that's about all...Just heard of it...but don't know much about it

Very good movie, my only problem with the film as well is Cruise surviving in the end, but besides that it was a very moving film...

I have read The Art of War, not just a guide for war but actually more of philosophy of politics, business, and relationships definatley a good read...

Also check out A Book of Five Rings-Miyamoto Musashi, It gives a better explanation of the Samurai and where and why they originated and also explains the politics of feudal Japan at the time 16th-17th century, I had read this a few years back and could see the similarities in the movie. Yes the emporer was a wimp but that is because at that time the title was just passed down the bloodline much like the current british monarch, so there was always someone in the background controlling the puppet wether it was for his own interests or whatever.....

Im starting to ramble on lol so I give this movie a 4.9 out of 5 all because of cruise surviving the end.

Return of the King will own this movie...but it was still good.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 Return of the King will own this movie...but it was still good.

Tru dat!!

I loved it. As most people here have said already, one of the best movies to come out lately.

9/10

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