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Posted by Pete Mitchell on Dec-11-2003 21:13:

Arrow Ecstasy & The Clubbing Culture...

ok guys,just wanted to get your feedback on this topic.

*do/have many of your taken ecstasy/E's?
*how often do you take it?
*wot are your views on it?
*have you had any problems through taking it?
*do you like them?
*any other comments?

my mate told me that over in Holland,they can actually test your gear to see if its ok,and if its not,they can supply you with stuff that is not as harmful.is this true?

alot of my mates take it,every weekend in fact.at the agnelli & nelson gig on saturday there was the first time i took it.and i have to say,it was fucking awesome! i dont want to make it a regular occurance tho.i wana take it just on special occassions ie:godskitchen this boxing day hehe.

IMO,use,dont abuse.i know guys that take 15-20 in 1 night and hardly get a hit.fuck that.

only downside i had,was a sore jaw the next day lol

anywayz.wot are all your views on it?

Thanx for listening...


disclaimer:this thread does not condone the use of illegal substances.this is for purely entertainment purposes only.


Posted by wienerschnitzel on Dec-11-2003 21:25:

how often have i taken E = never
how often do i take it? = i don't
what are my views on it?= i don't like drugs, most of them scare me, probably because of all the drug abuse in my family.
have i had any problems taking it= nope
do you like them?= this question falls under the views category
any other comments? = i am so thankful for free agency and the right to make your own decisions. if you want to take E or any other drug, go right ahead. I hope those who do it are doing it with knowledge about the drug and caution.


Posted by Slylee on Dec-11-2003 21:55:

some of my thoughts on e

yes i've done it many times....

now i think it's overrated....

if you want to look like a sappy *cracked out* moron in front of all your friends, then by all means, take it

it's not what it used to be a few years ago...pills are cut up w/ crap these days, so it's not worth the risk.

i'm glad i learned to be a part of the "scene" without having to be f***** up.

i guess if you're going to take drugs, then "take drugs responsibly"

i think the words "drugs" and "responsible" can't go hand in hand.


Posted by VIO on Dec-11-2003 22:12:

i prefer snow but i've rolled many times. it's cool. i'll usually take about 1/2 to 1 gram of snow and mix in a crushed up roll. i'll just bump all night long. that way i'm not cracked out and i'm not trainspotting. the roll takes the edge off the snow and makes everything a bit trippy. it's a nice combination. just remember, if you're going to ue, use in moderation and know your limit. there's nothing worse then a punter who's had too much, anything. chances are, if people can look at you and know you're really fucked up, then you're too fucked up. cheers.


Posted by Matt Jay on Dec-11-2003 22:17:

Once maybe twice a year at big events.

It does kinda get lame after a while
What disturbs me is that people go to events JUST to get fucked up, they don't care about the music.


Posted by moncster on Dec-11-2003 22:34:


It's a trap!


Posted by butterfly on Dec-11-2003 22:51:

Re: Ecstasy & The Clubbing Culture...

*do/have many of your taken ecstasy/E's? yes
*how often do you take it? not at all anymore
*wot are your views on it? i hate it with a burning passion
*have you had any problems through taking it? yes, severe depression
*do you like them? no
*any other comments? dont ask the internet if you should do drugs


Posted by swe_Trancer on Dec-11-2003 22:56:

Re: Ecstasy & The Clubbing Culture...

*do/have many of your taken ecstasy/E's?
I've never done it

*how often do you take it?
Neveer

*wot are your views on it?
not sure..hmm

*have you had any problems through taking it?
havent done

*do you like them?
blabla

*any other comments?
yes, I kinda don't mind so much as long as people know what they are doing and not going out to clubs just to do drugs. If you go mainly for the music it's ok in small doses


Posted by SuperFarStucker on Dec-11-2003 23:22:

*do/have many of your taken ecstasy/E's? Yep
*how often do you take it? non regularly
(~25 pills in past year and half or so ~1.40 / mo i guess would be avg)
*wot are your views on it?

I feel rather ambiguous about it to be honest. It can (and does) cause depression, ranging from mild to severe, depending on frequency (How often), intensity (how much), and your genetic makeup (affects everyone to a different degree) among other non identifiable factors. I cannot stand the subculture that has been created because of it. The "ecstasy" subculture if you will... people in the tweaked out clothing trashed out of their minds at every party... It's downright abusive to themselves and degrades the entire atmosphere significantly.

On the flip side if you abstain from the touchy feely "ooh that feels great" bullshit it's a great drug. It's a very clean, intense and focused feeling every time I have taken them (aside from the first which I regret). It really makes you feel "safe" and suffused with some sort of divine senses for a few hours. Basically, it removes you from reality very well, which, in my opinion is what a good "drug" does (having desirable effects).

But, the damage it has the potential to do/does is undeniable. In moderation I believe it is negligible but everyone is entitled to their own opinion (backed by scientific fact or anecdote). I've taken ~25, (which isn't much by some standards) over the course of a year and a half and I do not notice any cognitive changes whatsoever, although there are times that I have experienced short depression spells. Your mileage may vary. Some of my friends get very depressed after pilling and some don't seem to be affected at all.

*do you like them? a bit
*any other comments? You can test your pills yourself as well... testing kits are purchasable through various vendors via the internet, bluelight.nu has a much more comprehensive and in depth database of ecstasy , and also lists testing kit vendors. Oh, and your reaction is almost stereotypically normal to the first time taking the drug.. That is how I, and everyone I've known felt (more or less) about it after our "first time"...


Posted by TrAnCe CoNtRoL on Dec-12-2003 00:45:

*do/have many of your taken ecstasy/E's? yes ive done it, 6 seperate times, only 1 pill each time
*how often do you take it? once maybe every 4 months only on special occasions
*wot are your views on it? if your gonna do it, do it safe. i hate anti drug people who are uneducated about it and post bogus facts. i hate people who take it and dont know anything about it even more.
*have you had any problems through taking it? no, im not a dumbass and dont take 10 pills a night then whine and cry about how i feel like shit for the next 2 weeks
*do you like them? yes, too much
*any other comments? no i think ive said everything i needed to. its always gonna be a part of the scene and theres nothing you can do about it. the war against drugs is a lose lose situation.


Posted by jdjd on Dec-12-2003 00:53:

*do/have many of your taken ecstasy/E's?
ive had about 100 in my lifetime

*how often do you take it?
go through phases where i do it every weekend, take breaks...

*wot are your views on it?
If you are ok with drugs, try it.. its an experience like nothing else, especially if you are with your girlfriend

*have you had any problems through taking it?
loss of memory, motivation, energy, got sick, lost weight

*do you like them?
its a treat once in a while

*any other comments?
there are detailed trip reports at bluelight.nu and erowid.org, youll find better info


Posted by montie on Dec-12-2003 00:55:

*do/have many of your taken ecstasy/E's?
none, but i want to, but not just gonna take any i from some dealer at a rave
*wot are your views on it? sounds like a great drug if used responsibly and in moderation. too many people don't know how to do this, so end up having a bad experience
*do you like them? i don't like this question
*any other comments? drug is over hyped.

my mate told me that over in Holland,they can actually test your gear to see if its ok,and if its not,they can supply you with stuff that is not as harmful.is this true?
i've heard this also. i would bet that this is true


Posted by UWM on Dec-12-2003 01:00:

Re: Ecstasy & The Clubbing Culture...

*do/have many of your taken ecstasy/E's?
Yes I've done it.

*how often do you take it?
Between my first and second time I took over 8 months off. Then for a while it was monthly. Then weekly. Now it's every couple months.

*wot are your views on it?
TBH I love the shit. The first time I took a pill was the single greatest experience of my life. Granted I was with 15 of my best friends in one of the greatest clubs I've ever been at, but still. I've never had a "bad" experience on it. I've had some stupid ones where I had reached a threshold dosage where I took an amount that did nothing. Now that I've calmed down and only will do it for a special reason / party / event it's brought back the "magic" it once had.

*have you had any problems through taking it?
Never had shitty comedowns. Never had post-usage depression. I saw people who started dealing with that and that is a big reason why I curbed my usage.

*do you like them?
See above.

*any other comments?
If you don't do drugs, respect the opinions of those who chose to do so. If you do - be informed and responsible.


Posted by zarathustra on Dec-12-2003 03:00:

*do/have many of your taken ecstasy/E's?
Yes I have.

*how often do you take it?
This year three times

*wot are your views on it?
Same as with other drugs, do 'em if ya wanna. Just know the risks and don't go whining about how your drain got bamaged.

*have you had any problems through taking it?
A couple years ago I used it quite frequently and I did feel stupid after a while. Whenever I take it now, I plan in advance and go through a pre/post-loading regimen. As a result I feel just fine the next day after a good sleep.

*do you like them?
Hell yeah, they're lots of fun. I've done it a couple times without even being at a club/rave and it's a blast.

*any other comments?
It got me into the "scene" but is my no means my reason for staying. It can be a door opener but hopefully you can see that it doesn't have to be about the drugs. Unfortunately that isn't the case for some people.


Posted by Shook1 on Dec-12-2003 03:06:

Smoking ..umm..something

quote:
Originally posted by moncster

It's a trap!


Niiiice ..... quote directly from the movie too! lol

anyways...
*do/have many of your taken ecstasy/E's?
--- yep

*how often do you take it?
--- once maybe 2x a yr.

*wot are your views on it?
--- its cool the 1st couple times, but there after its nothing new.

*have you had any problems through taking it?
--- nope. It takes a strong and open mind to take one, believe me.

*do you like them?
--- like.....ummm, no. Its just a nice feeling every so often. Just not too often.

*any other comments?

--- to all of you that take it or are interested in taking it: be careful !!!! Like i said earlier in my post, it takes a strong and open mind to handle the effects. If u've never done it and are interested, make sure u get them from someone u trust and have dealt w/ a lot b4. Do not buy from anyone off the street or someone at a club/rave/etc. (chances are they're out for a quick dollar so it doesnt matter what they give you). Also, if u already havent, invest in an MDMA tester if ur that skeptical. If your extremely skeptical .... just DONT DO IT. You'll be better off. If your known to take things to extreme dont do it. I've seen plenty of people (girls included) that get hooked after the 1st time because the feeling was something they've never experienced b4. And to conclude, my experiences have always taught me that its better to be around friends u trust and are close w/ to experience w/, the more detailed the roll (picture, etc.) the better/cleaner it is, and try not to do it in public. People will know !


Posted by DJ-Fuq on Dec-12-2003 03:46:

Re: Ecstasy & The Clubbing Culture...

*do/have many of your taken ecstasy/E's?
yes
*how often do you take it?
i dont take it any more
*wot are your views on it?
Its alright, i found the high pretty similar to alcohol, without all the bad effects of alcohol (drowsiness, agression, dont know what ur doing etc)
*have you had any problems through taking it?
yes, partly, but i dont wanna go into that.
*do you like them?
yes, but amphetamines in general dont come close to opiates
*any other comments?
it needs to be legalised

my mate told me that over in Holland,they can actually test your gear to see if its ok,and if its not,they can supply you with stuff that is not as harmful.is this true?

I doubt it. Anyway, pill testers only test the pills to see if they contain mdma/similar drugs. So if u get a pill with mdma/similar + rat poison (its just an example), itll give u the best possible result, that it contains mdma. So these things are only partly effective.


Posted by dartman on Dec-12-2003 08:36:

Re: Ecstasy & The Clubbing Culture...

*do/have many of your taken ecstasy/E's?
about 120 - 150 pills in my life

*how often do you take it?
back in the day, once a week for about 1.5 years.
now.... not at all, but i'm not rule'n it out for a special occasion.

*wot are your views on it?
wicked fun drug. absolutely loved it. but i got almost "trapped" in it. i couldnt have fun with out it. after spend tons of cash on it, and becoming completely irresponsible i stopped having fun on it and quit. i havent doen it in over a year but i would do it again if the right time came up.

*have you had any problems through taking it?
yeah, i wasted tons of cash on it.

*do you like them?
i did

*any other comments?
MODERATION


Posted by halexander837 on Dec-12-2003 15:41:

Re: Ecstasy & The Clubbing Culture...

quote:
Originally posted by Pete Mitchell
ok guys,just wanted to get your feedback on this topic.

*do/have many of your taken ecstasy/E's?
*how often do you take it?
*wot are your views on it?
*have you had any problems through taking it?
*do you like them?
*any other comments?

my mate told me that over in Holland,they can actually test your gear to see if its ok,and if its not,they can supply you with stuff that is not as harmful.is this true?

alot of my mates take it,every weekend in fact.at the agnelli & nelson gig on saturday there was the first time i took it.and i have to say,it was fucking awesome! i dont want to make it a regular occurance tho.i wana take it just on special occassions ie:godskitchen this boxing day hehe.

IMO,use,dont abuse.i know guys that take 15-20 in 1 night and hardly get a hit.fuck that.

only downside i had,was a sore jaw the next day lol

anywayz.wot are all your views on it?

Thanx for listening...


disclaimer:this thread does not condone the use of illegal substances.this is for purely entertainment purposes only.


No
Never
Horrible
I Don't Care
No yet Again
People who take ecstasy are as good as dead.

Sorry I had to say that, But its the truth!


Posted by UWM on Dec-12-2003 17:49:

Re: Re: Ecstasy & The Clubbing Culture...

quote:
Originally posted by halexander837
No
Never
Horrible
I Don't Care
No yet Again
People who take ecstasy are as good as dead.

Sorry I had to say that, But its the truth!


You are a loser.

No offense.


Posted by butterfly on Dec-12-2003 18:00:

Re: Re: Ecstasy & The Clubbing Culture...

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Fuq
my mate told me that over in Holland,they can actually test your gear to see if its ok,and if its not,they can supply you with stuff that is not as harmful.is this true?

I doubt it. Anyway, pill testers only test the pills to see if they contain mdma/similar drugs. So if u get a pill with mdma/similar + rat poison (its just an example), itll give u the best possible result, that it contains mdma. So these things are only partly effective.


you can analyze a pill for an exact chemical specturm with some very standard analytical methods, but usualy they are destructive methods (you lose the pill). i dont know what method the pill testing kits use but i have heard very good things about them.


Posted by UglyDave on Dec-12-2003 18:05:

Re: Ecstasy & The Clubbing Culture...

quote:
Originally posted by Pete Mitchell
ok guys,just wanted to get your feedback on this topic.

*do/have many of your taken ecstasy/E's?
yes

*how often do you take it?
twice / month.. 2-3 in each sitting

*wot are your views on it?
dodgy enough.. use in moderation (i dont)

*have you had any problems through taking it?
bita depression here & there.. they fuck up ur concentration temporarily

*do you like them?
ooh yes

*any other comments?
go down great with a wee line of speed

alot of my mates take it,every weekend in fact.at the agnelli & nelson gig on saturday there was the first time i took it.and i have to say,it was fucking awesome!
A&N are fuckin brilliant. dyin to see em..


Posted by Pete Mitchell on Dec-12-2003 18:52:

Re: Re: Re: Ecstasy & The Clubbing Culture...

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
You are a loser.

No offense.


LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

couldnt have said it better myself.

ill just say this,take one at a big event with your favourtite dj spinning and then come back and tell us its shit...


Posted by -=M=- on Dec-12-2003 20:35:

Re: Ecstasy & The Clubbing Culture...

*do/have many of your taken ecstasy/E's? = Have
*how often do you take it? = Not very often. only 2 so far this year, maybe 1 or 2 nye
*wot are your views on it? = got no problems with it, as long as it doesnt start ruling my life and stays on the backburner of my life
*have you had any problems through taking it? = nope, none at all... although i did freak out a little when i thought i lost my fone while i was meant to be peaking once.... fkn mate borrowed it knowing i was fucked
*do you like them? = yeah they fun, but only a special occasion sorta thing for me
*any other comments? = i need to take a piss


Posted by noikeee on Dec-13-2003 00:25:

Re: Ecstasy & The Clubbing Culture...

quote:
*do/have many of your taken ecstasy/E's?

never

quote:
*how often do you take it?

three times a day. no, seriously, look at previous answer

quote:
*wot are your views on it?

it's a drug. it's fun. it makes you feel better. it can fuck up your brain as well.

quote:
*have you had any problems through taking it?

i think i'm kinda free of problems by not taking it, but you can never be too sure

quote:
*do you like them?

so far i can't say that i have liked them, neither the opposite

quote:
*any other comments?

please, please, stop associating ecstasy and other drugs with electronic music. i'm not against people who take it to enhance the musical experience, but people who are on the scene only for the drugs and not for the music piss me off a lot. and, an advice for those who take it, use it in moderation.

actually i'd be a bit curious to experience it if it wasn't illegal and if it didn't had such a bad reputation around here. you take something illegal once, you're 'the scum of the society'. that's why i don't think i'll ever take it (and for the health problems as well, of course)


Posted by ambs on Dec-13-2003 01:35:

Re: Ecstasy & The Clubbing Culture...

*do/have many of your taken ecstasy/E's? Yes

*how often do you take it? I've stopped now because I got tired of it, but when I first started taking it it was about once every 2 months, and then last year it was like 30 times in the year, I think... In the beginning just a half pill but towards the end I'd be taking about 3 but always in doses of a half....

*wot are your views on it? E really broadend my views on life and aspects and issues... I think it can be a great thing if used wisely, carefully and of course it shouldn't be abused... However, I myself made the concious decision not to take it anymore because I got tired of it.. and I believe you should always listen to your body, and mine was telling me it was time to stop, so I did

*have you had any problems through taking it? I once had that I got totally disoriented, that was the last time I took it.. it sucked.. Also for a while I would have to vomit whenever the pill kicked in, that sucked too, but actually it was all in my head. the nerves of being scared something would go wrong made me paranoid and then it would become overwhelming and I'd get sick... it went away though when I learned to relax... also, I do notice that my short term memory has greatly decreased since I started taking E... I definitely believe it has done damage to my brain... I notice in small ways like when I want to say something but I can't find the words (I NEVER had that problem before)

*do you like them? Hmmm, I loved it for a while... but I guess you could say I grew out of it... I just enjoy better now sober

*any other comments? Use wisely and carefully... I think E can teach you great things but remember that it's pretty much a "new" drug and that the exact long term effects of it aren't known yet... The thing that I liked about E is I never "needed" it... when i decided to stop using it, I just did... and I've never regretted stopping... Just remember to listen to your body Be safe!!!


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