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Posted by b1_ on Dec-14-2003 09:46:

What's with the rock guys bashing DJs?

Recently heard the song by Jet called Rollover DJ. Lyrics such as "roll over DJ", "you're playin' other peoples songs", and "you've got nothing to say".

I also recently saw an Aussie movie called Garage Days which had a lot of the same hostile towards DJs vibe in it.

What's goin' on? Do they think they're the only ones who have a right to be performing? Maybe Jet are saying that just the bad DJs should get off the stage? I don't know...

Is it jealousy?

Maybe the rock guys think if you can't sing, and don't play any conventional instruments, then you shouldn't be trying to create music?

Dunno about you but there seems to be a nasty vibe surfacing. Or maybe it's just a little healthy rivalry?

Anyone noticed any of this?


Posted by tranceDJ on Dec-14-2003 09:55:

Makes since how they would say that playing instruments but they're still wrong...as far as I care, their opinion on DJ'ing and dance music means nothing to mean cuz they're obviously not into that music and therefore don't understand it.


Posted by UWM on Dec-14-2003 09:57:

People who contend that electronic music producers don't use "real instruments" are fucking idiots.

Ignorance is bliss.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Dec-14-2003 10:16:

I would actually agree to an extent. Basically DJ's are just human jukeboxes... we seem to glorify them way too much just because they can mix 2 tunes together.

It's also got something to do with the fact that rockers can't like electronic music and vice versa because it has always been so. Frankly I don't really understand why since I enjoy rock music as much as trance/any other edm genre.

Some people are just so inbred that I wouldn't really pay any attention to them. Let us do what we like and let them do what they like.


Posted by ASOT100 on Dec-14-2003 10:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Some people are just so inbred that I wouldn't really pay any attention to them. Let us do what we like and let them do what they like.


yea don't bother with ignorant ppl


Posted by Bondor on Dec-14-2003 10:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
I would actually agree to an extent. Basically DJ's are just human jukeboxes... we seem to glorify them way too much just because they can mix 2 tunes together.


i completely agree with the rest of your points(deleted) but what about DJ's who play their own songs?


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Dec-14-2003 10:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Bondor
i completely agree with the rest of your points(deleted) but what about DJ's who play their own songs?

That is of course a different matter altogether.


Posted by J.L. on Dec-14-2003 10:36:

some rock bands have their own DJ...

and all they do is stand behind a turntable and nod their head to the music and pretend they are turning EQ knobs... but for some reason the mass idiot public seems to think that those DJ's are like hardcore... *limp bizkit* *cough* *cough*


Posted by Icesotope on Dec-14-2003 10:53:

Reminds me of DJ Isaac's Nobody listens to techno (its a white label version of Eminem's without me)

DJ Isaac - Nobody Listens To Techno
BAse Attack - Nobody listens to techno
Son Of A Gun Feat. Kid Panic - Everybody listens to techno

LOL! what a weird theory.


Posted by noikeee on Dec-14-2003 11:09:

quote:
Originally posted by kewlness
some rock bands have their own DJ...

and all they do is stand behind a turntable and nod their head to the music and pretend they are turning EQ knobs... but for some reason the mass idiot public seems to think that those DJ's are like hardcore... *limp bizkit* *cough* *cough*


i thought those guys did a little bit of turntabilist at least.. but they're probably just acting like you say


Posted by narcism on Dec-14-2003 12:11:

jet is just an aussie band that will never make it big outside of australia

It all comes down to being jealous


Posted by Kledsky on Dec-14-2003 12:16:

I always thought that DJ Lethal from Limp Bizkit did a great job at turntabling and sampling etc. on the 3 dollar bill y'alls cd. IMO that cd was a great cd because of the work that he did.

When they (Fred Durst) decided to tone down DJ Lethal in their music there sound changed dramatically to a more cleaner and refined sound (mass media type of sound). DJ's I think can define the type of sound from a rock band which is adding to all this rapcore nu metal bands coming out nowadays. Like when Beastie Boys brought in Mix Master Mike he totally changed the type of sound of the Beasties. Same with Sid from Slipknot from their Slipknot cd to Iowa, when they tone him down it changes the sound dramatically.

Even most of those DJs that we think just sit there and nod their heads to the music usually are contributing more than we think to the "sound" of the cd. I think this has happened to Limp Bizkit, Beastie Boys, Slipknot and a lot of other ones i can't think of right now. I like it when bands have a DJ because they add so muchto the songs and it downplays the music from being big popular hits because usually people don't seem to like all the scratching and sampling that they do. I duno really how true that is but it just seems that way with how limp bizkit and slipknot took away so much of the dj work in their music. But then again their still a lot different than the DJ's that those songs are talking about, because i do agree with what Mr. Mystery said that a lot of djs are just jukeboxes that mix the hits together into one Totally HIT!!! song, i hate that.

What makes me mad at those stupid songs though is how they don't understand that the good DJ's arn't just throwing a bunch of hits together, in most cases there doin just the opposite. Instead they focus more on the flow of their sets and the vibe the set gives off. This can create a whole different type of sound out of tracks that if you heard by themself, would sound much more bland. This is why its called trance, because it takes you on a "journey" through an assortment of tracks that are put together to create a distinct feel.

I duno why i wrote so much on that... wierd...


Posted by mentalbarter on Dec-14-2003 12:35:

quote:
Originally posted by InAcoma
jet is just an aussie band that will never make it big outside of australia

It all comes down to being jealous


actually jet are wicked and fairly well known in UK
theyre probably just trying to get attention


Posted by A.J. on Dec-14-2003 13:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
I would actually agree to an extent. Basically DJ's are just human jukeboxes... we seem to glorify them way too much just because they can mix 2 tunes together.


What about the people who make the song? True, it is the producers that create the tracks and the DJs that spin them, but these days mose DJs produce anyway. It takes just as much talent to produce an EDM track as it does to produce a song in any other genre.


Posted by ojste on Dec-14-2003 14:14:

who cares what they say, they all gonna end up slitting their wrists anyway


Posted by trewqy on Dec-14-2003 14:27:

King

Hell... most of my friends who listen to rock/metal keep telling me that its not real "music"...Please.. if what you define as real music is playing the guitar with amps and all that shit... then I guess beethoven wont even consider our music now AS music.

I used to be one of them but i got bored of metal during the mid 90s.Most of the punk rock and metal bands nowadays sound so angry and bitter.The world is already a crappy place now and I dont intend to hear such music anyways.


Posted by whiskers on Dec-14-2003 15:42:

admit it, music is sounds waves thrown together in a blend


it doesn't really matter whether you use an electric guitar or a synthesizer, it's the same vibrations.


Posted by smallSHEEP on Dec-14-2003 16:51:

Well we have just had a whole thread bashing hip hop and calling them musical retards because they rap and don't sing. Now everyone gets offended because some rock guy doesn't understand EDM!! People here are way too narrow minded.


Posted by whiskers on Dec-14-2003 16:54:

quote:
Originally posted by smallSHEEP
Well we have just had a whole thread bashing hip hop and calling them musical retards because they rap and don't sing. Now everyone gets offended because some rock guy doesn't understand EDM!! People here are way too narrow minded.




probably on some rap board out there someone posted something like

quote:
ya'll, dis shiznit is makin' me cray-zay, y'know what i mean; what is UP with dose dumb techno guys always hatin' on us and our brothas, y'know what i mean. y do they's have to go around hatin' on our music, those narrow-minded muthafuckas


Posted by DC76 on Dec-15-2003 00:35:

Exclamation

quote:
Originally posted by whiskers

admit it, music is sounds waves thrown together in a blend

it doesn't really matter whether you use an electric guitar or a synthesizer, it's the same vibrations.


Sounds like someone knows their Fourier's Theorem

But hey, I don't hate any given genre... I just don't like a set percentage of artists within those genres... If rockers wanna hate DJs, so be it. If DJs wanna hate MCs, so be it. I could care less. I choose to see the good in every genre of music.

Plus look at Linkin Park, they combine all three in their act...



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