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Smoking bylaw coming into affect?

After the wonderful Marco V session last night, i came home with my lungs filled with 3 hours of second hand smoke.

I personally hope this by law in clubs is comes to affect becuase its simply not fair that others have to be put at risk for the shit that is exhaled and then breathed in by us.

Does anyone know the status of this law...is it actually going to be implemented?

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Originally posted by Cyrus King After the wonderful Marco V session last night, i came home with my lungs filled with 3 hours of second hand smoke. I personally hope this by law in clubs is comes to affect becuase its simply not fair that others have to be put at risk for the shit that is exhaled and then breathed in by us. Does anyone know the status of this law...is it actually going to be implemented?

I can see your point.

Personally speaking, I party in Waterloo and we have a No Smoking bylaw in effect, so theres no smoking at ANY bar, club or restaurant here in Waterloo. Now, I must admit, i just fucking LOVE coming home from the club and not recking of smoke... everything from ur hair to ur clothes smells (god, its the worst).. but that said, I dont actually mind the smoking in clubs... i guess ive just been around enough ppl that smoke when we're chillin' and drinking at house parties, so im used to it.... its a nice change for me to see ppl smoking in a club i guess.... i dunno

But i consider it very nice to come home and pass out after a hardnight of clubbing w/o smelling of smoke... I can totally see ur point, esp. if you're worried about the help sideaffects.... thats a legit concern for sure (and the most serious one too)

neways, i think TO still has maybe 2-3 years left ?? ( i dunno, i cant remember teh last time i remember hearing about this subject, but i *thought* that it was 2006.... not positive.... so dont quote me...

Dude, come party down here in the Loo @ the Purple Room in Rev if u want a smoke free night! =))

CHEERS

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Originally posted by Cyrus King After the wonderful Marco V session last night, i came home with my lungs filled with 3 hours of second hand smoke. I personally hope this by law in clubs is comes to affect becuase its simply not fair that others have to be put at risk for the shit that is exhaled and then breathed in by us. Does anyone know the status of this law...is it actually going to be implemented?

Yes, as of June. We already see one side-effect of this law - Gold Club is no more !a

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Originally posted by Durafei Yes, as of June. We already see one side-effect of this law - Gold Club is no more !

Speaking of that, someone told me that the anti-tobacco sponsorship legislation is going to be thrown out by the Martin government.

Does anyone one know if this is just a rumour or fact??

itikia

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Dude, come party down here in the Loo @ the Purple Room in Rev if u want a smoke free night! =))

As far as I know, Purple Room in Waterloo will be gone They are renovating it, and turning into a lounge..

I cant wait for this to happen.When I went to Ottawa it was the best,and I really enjoyed partying there.
This anti-smoking law will be good for me and many others who suffer from breathing problems.

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Originally posted by itikia Speaking of that, someone told me that the anti-tobacco sponsorship legislation is going to be thrown out by the Martin government. Does anyone one know if this is just a rumour or fact?? itikia

I havent heard that, but I did hear yesterday that the Grand Prix for MTL was still on.
which is strange, because of all the tobacco advertising(it was dumaurier grand prix etc)

I hope it doesnt get tossed out, but scaling it back would be nice.
In Calgary, smoking is divided into 2 categories, 18+(can be smoking, or non smoking) and all ages(must be non smoking)
you declare yourself either of the two, and it stays as such.


I wish smoking it clubs was gone, or relegated to a patio or something. Somewhere that it wont hurt me(or clubbers in general)
I wonder if studies on inhaling smoke while performing somewhat athletic activites(ie dancing) have been done?

Yea I agree about getting this bylaw into effect. My lungs take a beating every time I hit clubs. And yea, it really does stick to all my clothes, hair, etc...

And the other good thing about such an anti-smoking in clubs law is that it would keep out all those jerks who come into clubs just to smoke and do nothing.... thus emptying out clubs just enough so that you can actually have space to dance!!!!

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Originally posted by j_spot I havent heard that, but I did hear yesterday that the Grand Prix for MTL was still on. which is strange, because of all the tobacco advertising(it was dumaurier grand prix etc)

I saw on the news that the F1 was salvaged because the organizers are going to financially compensate the loss of teams that are primarily tobacco sponsored.

This no smoking bylaw shouldn't come as much of a surprise since it has already been around in many US and other Canadian cities for a while and it's also picking up a lot of stream over in Europe.

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Originally posted by itikia Speaking of that, someone told me that the anti-tobacco sponsorship legislation is going to be thrown out by the Martin government. Does anyone one know if this is just a rumour or fact?? itikia

I heard that too, something about the lost money effecting culture.....

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Originally posted by Hami I heard that too, something about the lost money effecting culture.....

aaaah screw that,what about the people who suffer from second hand smoking??

I guess it is all about money isnt it?

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Originally posted by Hami something about the lost money effecting culture.....

And that is the pivotal problem. Either save lungs or save culture...

itikia

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Originally posted by itikia And that is the pivotal problem. Either save lungs or save culture... itikia

no lungs, no culture!

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Originally posted by dEsidEL no lungs, no culture!

It's a paradox: no culture, no need to go out therefore you get fat and arteries get clogged and somehow you loose your lungs...

the way i look at it , me being a smoker, it would help me quit. because at the club is where you tend to smoke the most.

people are such whiners aren't they?

free country my fucking ass.

I HATE all the smoke in clubs, although I do understand the cultural concern...

I don't think the old-school raves had a lot of smoking, though. (I could be wrong, of course, I'm not an old-schooler myself, so I'm just going by what I've heard from others). At any rate, it seems to me like the culture certainly CAN exist without it. I don't think anti-smoking legislation would seriously hurt the scene - not to say it wouldn't hurt a little bit - but there are lots and lots of other places where people can't smoke, and smokers still go to them. In Kingston, all the clubs are non-smoking now, but they're still always packed.

I think smokers like to claim that the scene would die, but that response sounds very speculative, not to mention desperate and emotionally-charged. Look at the Montreal clubs where there isn't even alcohol - I'm sure a lot of lushes would say that the scene needs that, but clearly, it does not.

I for one can't wait for this legislation to pass. So many other cities have already done it and the results have been almost all positive. I'm sorry to say that I have no sympathy for smokers who are inconvenienced, because they inconvenience everyone around them with their second-hand smoke. It's fine outside, or in an open/sparse area, but in a sardine can with poor ventilation, ugh...

i'm a smoker and i like it, it's fun

but if the bylaw comes into effect, more power to it... i also love coming home not reeking of smoke (clubsmoke is horrendous)

i have partied in st cats & kitchener & burlington many times, they have no smoking laws and i'm cool with them..


and i think jacking up the cost of smokes will help people quit, not smoke-free facilities


only problem i have with it is....

this would mean you cant smoke anything in clubs

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Originally posted by Durafei As far as I know, Purple Room in Waterloo will be gone They are renovating it, and turning into a lounge..

NOOOOooooooooooooooo......... for real ? A lounge.....!!????

Goodbye decent club scene at Waterloo... Bye bye... see you later!

Are they TRYING to force us to hang at Phils ???

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Originally posted by Muff2K only problem i have with it is.... this would mean you cant smoke anything in clubs

OH NOOO! true say man... lighting up a spliff will be next to impossible then

very observant... thats a very important complication to take note of..... hrmmmmmm...........

This by-law can't come soon enough.. for people with asthma or whatever lung condition its really hard to go out without problems from smoke. Imagine how much people would freak out if a restaurant/bar/club couldn't let in a handicapped person because their doors were too small or something... and toronto is usually better than most cities at putting people first, I hear of all of these other cities with the smoking by laws and start to think that Tijuana will get it before we do...

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 people are such whiners aren't they? free country my fucking ass.

uh oh, I think Smitty is trying to heat up this thread...

Hey, I should have the freedom to kick your ass then right?

I'm all for it!!!

I suffer from asthma (But it hasn't caused me problems in over a decade), and the amount of second hand smoke you inhale at a party is insane. I fucking hate it. And getting burnt by dumb people who don't watch where they dance with a cigarette... grrrrrr....

I'm completely for the anti-smoking by-law. Apparently, its going to come into effect in January 2005. I hate coming home after being at a bar/club and just reeking of smoke. Sometimes its so bad, I've got to have a shower and throw my clothes in the basement. It's disgusting.

Ari, as for the rumours abour the Martin government throwing out the by-law, they have no power over the municipal government in this regard. The only government that could impose such a restriction would be the provincial governments. As well, its not in the best interest for the federal government to enact such a restriction because the amount of money spent on health care every year for incidents related to smoking is astronomical. In some countries, they ban health care for smoking induced problems after two prior hospital admittances.

don't u just hate it when u come home from a club and mom asks u: have u been drinking? have u been smoking? then why do u smell like liquor? why do u smell like smoke?

MOM I WAS AT A FREAKEN CLUB!

my point is it's rare that i go out clubbing mainly cuz i just hate being interogated the next day.
yes and the clothes last.. i remember it took 2 washes for a smell to get out once and trust me, if ur not a smoker, u really can pick it up easily cuz ur not used to it.

ONTOP of all, i have a serious asthma case. Sports asthma which is pretty much whenever i warm up before a game or an event, i need to take my meds. If i don't, by the time i'm warmed up, my lungs just can't pump enough air so i pretty much get an attack right on. Imagine that in open air. Now imagine that happening inside a club.

and yes, i've had hard time with bouncers before questioning me about my meds that i take with me...aka emergency buffer incase i get an attack... not fun either.

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