getting the kick and bass to make love

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Posted by Sirocco on Dec-15-2003 04:40:

getting the kick and bass to make love

what are some ways to get the kick and low end bass to melt with eachother. any eqing guidelines you guys have or any compression tricks etc?

-thanks!, sirocco!

Posted by Sean Walsh on Dec-15-2003 06:01:

After analyzing the frequencies on the Lange mix of Firewall - Sincere, I noticed that his kick was completely muted below 80hz (ie. had no sub-bass). By doing that, you can have a Sine wav sub-bass playing beneath the kick with no interference whatsoever, and then have whatever style of quick bassline overtop of with nothing below 200-300hz on it. Put them together and you have a really good sounding bassline.

Posted by moth on Dec-15-2003 06:06:

Well for starters, you need:
A) A good kick
B) A good bass synth. Mercury and Junglist are great for bass. Tritium is a free little synth that can add to bassline. If you have money, Spectrasonics Trilogy is apparently really great.

Next, you need a bass riff.

Bass usually sounds best on the offbeat, right after the kick.
With EQ just basically increase the lowend and mids a bit.

Compression is always good, and differs for different styles of music. There is a compression tutorial around here somewhere.

Also everyone knows bass should be panned to the center, and run through a mono channel, it makes it sound much better.

Some people like to add a touch of reverb to their kicks to warm them a bit, depends on the style really. I've even seen some people reverse their kicks and lower the volume to add to their kick a sort of kickback.

I dunno, im bored now, that's all from me.

Posted by moth on Dec-15-2003 06:08:

Nice tip Sean, didn't know that.

Are you doing a Sincere remix?

Posted by Sean Walsh on Dec-15-2003 06:25:

Nah, I just really liked the bassline sound he had so I spent a few hours dissecting it, hehe.

Posted by Sirocco on Dec-15-2003 12:11:

quote:
Originally posted by dj-sean
After analyzing the frequencies on the Lange mix of Firewall - Sincere, I noticed that his kick was completely muted below 80hz (ie. had no sub-bass). By doing that, you can have a Sine wav sub-bass playing beneath the kick with no interference whatsoever, and then have whatever style of quick bassline overtop of with nothing below 200-300hz on it. Put them together and you have a really good sounding bassline.

nice one man! i must try this!

Posted by Etherium on Dec-16-2003 20:49:

quote:
After analyzing the frequencies on the Lange mix of Firewall - Sincere, I noticed that his kick was completely muted below 80hz (ie. had no sub-bass). By doing that, you can have a Sine wav sub-bass playing beneath the kick with no interference whatsoever, and then have whatever style of quick bassline overtop of with nothing below 200-300hz on it. Put them together and you have a really good sounding bassline.

Damn that's a mint tip. Gonna try this for sure.

Posted by Sean Walsh on Dec-16-2003 21:13:

The top one is just the kick by itself, the bottom one is the kick with the bassline. It took me a while to dissect what Lange was doing because you can't really hear a constant Sine wave sub playing underneath the actual bass pattern, but that is indeed what's going on (or at least, that's the only way I can replicate what's going on).

Take that template and you can have pretty much any type of bassriff playing overtop and it'll sound pretty phat. I highly recommend it.

Posted by Sebraa on Dec-18-2003 09:02:

Can I say that "getting the kick and bass to make love" is SUBJECT OF THE YEAR hehe ....

Analyzing is good step to explore the sound dj-sean hehe and giving ifo to others are nobel thing too thanks man

Posted by Sirocco on Dec-25-2003 05:01:

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