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Posted by Icone on Dec-15-2003 06:51:

Arrow New tune

Hey all,

Here's my latest track. Full 96 kbps version, you know the drill

icone-forgiven_not_forgotten__original_mix__96kbps_

Let me know what you think. I hope the sound quality isn't that low so you can hear enough of the track

Regards,
Wim


Posted by en2t on Dec-15-2003 08:06:

Comments as i listen:
Pretty cool percussions, but bass is a bit sluggish. It's got the lower end frequencies pretty thick (which is nice)...but it's just that it's hard to hear a distinct patter that it's playing cuz the notes just kinda mesh together. I prefer bass that's a tad bit more jumpy (higher attack basically). Pretty cool synths coming into the buildup now. Okay the song is fully buit up now and the main lead strings are playing. Pretty cool melo, at least for the first 2 chords, but after that it gets kind of ambiguous (melodically-wise). Anyway, overall, a pretty cool track, just make the lower end a bit bumpier and rhythmic, tweak the melody to loop better, and this should be a great track.

Stan.


Posted by Fractal on Dec-15-2003 09:34:

Not bad at all Wim !
Very energetic track ! I like it !
Good luck with it.
>>Max<<


Posted by DJ-Kreing^^ on Dec-15-2003 10:37:

Loved thoes strings at the break, great melody...
The way the whole thing builds could use some more work imo, i didnt really liked the part between 4:44 - 5:10, its sounds really empty when you compare it to the rest of the track.
After that it only gets better, loved the saw synth...
Second buildup sounds pretty cool.

Great tune man, just as allways


Posted by J.L. on Dec-15-2003 10:49:

massive as i've come to expect from you, Wim

ok... very professionally done of course as usual

one thing i think that could be improved on is the build-up from the start to about 3:00... it doesn't sound bad or badly arranged or anything... i feel that until 3:00, it just feels a bit too typical for my likings... personally, i suggest adding some sort of percussion or synth that when people hear it, they can identify it to "oh, that track has to be icone - forgiven not forgotten! i recognize the beginning"

I think the rest of the track is massive and the melody is good, although it could vary a bit from place to place instead of being the same...

good work with the low end bass and kick... i could totally hear the clarity of the carefully arranged low-end frequencies... (i tried going in to another room and listening... and it was still clear to me.. )
hi-end percussion sound good too, although 96 kbs was a bit low and mashed the clarity up a bit
good energy and feel to it... very iconish.. i like

2 thumbs up for this one


Posted by Icone on Dec-15-2003 16:10:

Thanks fellas

It took some time to get this bloody track online, never got to finish a lofi version or simply forgot hehe. I personally didn't have trouble with the low end on my speakers and heardphones, but that could be me of course.

DJ-Kreing^^ :: The part between 4:44 and 5:10 is that where the track builds to its climax? I kept it that way after hearing alot of signed tunes that had some sort of similar 'emptiness' to build the climax more. Well, I could always give it a try myself and see what it gives...

Thanks for the comment peepz!


Posted by TOR on Dec-15-2003 16:22:

as i said on the belgian forum.. great track, probably your best so far!

sounds very professional indeed, and the melody is awesome as well.

i noticed that "emptiness" too, but it's not a bad thing.
besides, in a club you don't here it anyway..
some sort of wave could solve the problem, but IMO it isn't really necessary.

overall, i love it!


Posted by dbl on Dec-15-2003 16:27:

sounds nice m8

but the intro could need some work too make it more itnressting.

maybe do like kewlness said and add some percussion or something too it that make's you recognise the track right from the beginning

but great track other then that


Posted by Sean Walsh on Dec-15-2003 17:45:

Comments as I listen.

Sounds good so far, but I agree with whoever said that the bass could have a more prominent sound to it.

Good panning on the percs.

Some good acid like effects in the 2-3 minute range.

Good pads in the breakdown, pretty massive sounding.

The fake buildup would probably piss people off on the dancefloor, but I like it anyways =P

Sounds really nice after the break when it's all in. There's something about the kick that I'm not a fan of though, it sticks out well in the mix which is good but it sounds like maybe it's lacking some low end to it or something, not sure.

Overall a very solid production and not too much to add other than what I've already said. Good work!


Posted by Boy trance on Dec-15-2003 18:45:

Ok listened to it and I must say overall very very good, you've come a long way Wim... and im impressed with your sound now...

The kick first off needs more low end, and the bass a bit too, not enough low ends to fill a room...

Try changing to a differnt yet similar kick maybe for the mini 'breaks' part, or if you fix the kick it wont be so bad... low end low end low end...

Other than that I think the track is well structured, and the melody, although simple, totally grows on you...im diggin it for sure... very emotional...


Posted by Omegasox on Dec-15-2003 19:35:

Looks like everyone has touched on the constructive points, so I'll just add the fact that I love the track.

The Icone sound never disappoints. Melodic and uplifting, wee!


Posted by Icone on Dec-15-2003 20:37:

Hey thanks guys

I know about that low end, I seem to loose a bit when mastering it in T-Racks and converting it to mp3... I'll look into it.

Thanks,
Wim


Posted by nils on Dec-17-2003 10:40:

niiiiice
i like it
the "melody" is truly uplifting
this sounds like a thing van buuren would play

right now i'm in school, so my earphones isn't all together that good, so it's highly possible that i might have missed stuff
anyways, very good work!
always enjoy a driving bassline


Posted by Nemesis44 on Dec-17-2003 12:34:

Hey hey hey,

We like this. I haven't heard your previous stuff but this sounds real good to me. As other posters have mentioned just needs some more low end.
Nice and catchy.

Nem


Posted by DJPrototypeX on Dec-17-2003 12:45:

nice ass tune. i personally loved that 'emptiness' startin at 4:44. great strings and melody. tons of emotions behind it. somethin about your bassline that made this catchy to my ears. great tune as usualy dude. keep it up


Posted by Endre on Dec-17-2003 13:41:


nice track mate, nice listening. cheers


Posted by Icone on Dec-17-2003 22:19:

thanks Endre

glad you took the time to take a listen. i sadly can't keep it up here forever (damn iuma), so if anyone else wants to have a listen to the full (lofi) instead of the coming 128kbps clip...


Posted by Icone on Dec-17-2003 22:22:

nils, Nemesis & Prototype, almost forgot you guys

thanks alot for taking a listen. i'll see to that low end, perhaps it just needs some better compressing compared to the rest of the track.


Posted by tranzMental on Dec-18-2003 17:55:

Hmm...I like this!!! The melody is kinda my style - I like this style of uplifting, because it's not TOO cheesey, or too happy. I also liked those acid like 303 basses before the intro. The pads are great, and so are the synths.

I say work on the kick a bit more too. A bit more on the 'low end' side like most have been saying. Great job Wim! I think this sounds great. -Mental


Posted by JohnOC on Dec-18-2003 18:02:

this is my favourite icone production in a long long time
i love that pad

wim, you are back on form!!!

John


Posted by EternalMusic on Dec-18-2003 20:27:

WOW, thats all i got to say, its perfect, the bass, melody and all are realy great, and most of all - the strings!
better than Meriva if you ask me, good work , you never disapoint do you? I'll take this opportunity to say that we have lots of talented producers here on the boards, just waiting to be discoverd!

Peace!

EM.


Posted by RaverBabySy on Dec-19-2003 16:27:

Very nice track and some smart synths used. Around 03:45 when it breaks down it's crying out for something, maybe a short vocal, something sharp to impact fully. The strings are good but at times are a little overbearing and distract from any main melody. But yeah in general I really liked this track, keep it up.


Posted by Icone on Dec-21-2003 11:39:

Thanks for the kind words, appreciate it

Regards,
Wim


Posted by AZCA on Dec-22-2003 00:36:

nice



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