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Posted by beroshima on Jul-25-2001 01:40:

Thumbs down Why we never hear trance/dance music [In the US]

Pay for play

A little explanation of why and how it happens. Click here for the article.

Tell me what you think...


Posted by Ckerr812 on Jul-25-2001 01:44:

Interesting read...thanks for the link....


Posted by Tranz on Jul-25-2001 02:12:

I didn't read the article, but I'm sure it says that record companies pay to have their singles played. That is old news. It goes on in every music genre in the U.S. That's the American way...
Anyways... trance would never be understood by the masses anyway, and it's better off that way...


Posted by trancedance on Jul-25-2001 02:17:

Read This! Re: Why we never hear trance/dance music [In the US]

quote:
Originally posted by beroshima
Pay for play

A little explanation of why and how it happens. Click here for the article.

Tell me what you think...


Excerpt:

Pay for play
Why does radio suck? Because most stations play only the songs the record companies pay them to. And things are going to get worse.

I have heard the above from another source....I see that it wasn't just a rumour.


Posted by neo geo on Jul-25-2001 04:05:

Dancing Dude

hey trance and all dance music was made to be underground
so i dont care if i hear it on the radio or not


Posted by LiquidX on Jul-25-2001 04:14:

I've said it before, and I'll say it again ..
this is a MONOPOLY !


Posted by Palivar on Jul-25-2001 04:43:

I predict trance will come into its own in the US this century


Posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 on Jul-25-2001 04:49:

The radio here sucks anyway. I won't even listen to it anymore. There is this station up here called B94 and they have a tracklist of like 20 songs that they loop the entire day. They wear songs out FAST.


Posted by stamper on Jul-25-2001 05:19:

bah! i'm not complaining about it not being commerical.


Posted by nyczliquid on Jul-25-2001 05:48:

grr...

if u guys hear what is on the US radio..you guys will know trance wont come up.....in my opinion its better that way anyway..


Posted by dazzed on Jul-25-2001 06:15:

i say good. keep it underground.
I'm an american. but the fact that 90% of american teenagers buy into fucking brittany spears says something. they ae products of a corporate world. I wouldn't want those stupid groupie bratts trying to influence the trance we hear.

keep it underground. it is just a shame that since it is underground, i know there are an endless number of amazing songs that none of us have heard. thats what really upsets me.


Posted by trancedance on Jul-25-2001 10:49:

Sneaker Pimp

quote:
Originally posted by TeKnoHe@d2025
The radio here sucks anyway. I won't even listen to it anymore. There is this station up here called B94 and they have a tracklist of like 20 songs that they loop the entire day. They wear songs out FAST.


I hardly ever listen to it anymore....the amazing thing to me is that when I do turn it on, they are still playing the same things today that they were playing last year!! How can people listen to that crap over and over again?


Posted by Spad on Jul-25-2001 10:52:

I'd be more worried about the fact it says

"Each of those 1,000 stations adds roughly three new songs to its playlist each week"

Surely that can't be accurate? If so it means that even if Trance did have an equal chance of getting on the radio, the sheer volume of pop tunes would make sure the odds of one being picked were almost nil.

The article does end on a positive not though. Seems to me like it's saying the record companies now realise they're going to have to do something about this before it gets out of control.


Posted by DJ_Optimus on Jul-25-2001 10:56:

I'm also very glad, Trance isn't that popular with the masses.
Some �re, like Jean and Barthezz Milk Inc etc., but I can't call that trance.

In Holland we have ID&T radio (former Slam FM) they play great songs sometimes.


Posted by Henkie_henk on Jul-25-2001 11:21:

quote:
Originally posted by mr_stamper
bah! i'm not complaining about it not being commerical.


me neither.. trance not being on the radio is a good thing..


Posted by krusader on Jul-25-2001 12:47:

ahhh... gotta love fucking corporate america

it always saddens me to see how pathetic the majority of our population is... the other night an 18 year old girl was going on about how great the new nsuck album is... and what was her response when i told her nsuck fucking blows? "well your music blows... all you ever listen to is dj's and groups that no ones ever heard of"... makes me want to shed a tear


Posted by Myrlin on Jul-25-2001 13:19:

Items like this always make for an interesting debate. I have had several conversation with friends and acquaintances about the nuances of music in general.

There is always a mob mentality out there which enjoys being told what to do, how to do and how to do it. We are all guilty of following certain things because society tells us to do so. With music, most of us have found the will to our own way.

An interesting mix of nationalities, lifestyles and ways of thinking permeate the world of electronika which is one reason I choose to make my own decision with regards to the music I listen to and the culture in which I spend my weekends.

Country to country, there are vast differences between how people live, party and exist. With regards to electronic music, there is always a common bond, a link, regardless of language and location. This is the main reason why I enjoy talking to people across various boards/countries/worlds. Everyone has a reason for what they do, what they like and how they do it.

I, personally, enjoy the "underground" aspect of our music worlds.
Many of the people I know, especially my "crew" have a wide array of feelings, emotions and ideas which sometimes are not prevelant in those which follow all of societys rules and regulations.

During the week, Im a respectable business professional. By weekend, you can see me wearing jester hats, costumes, and dancing my arse off to the best trance tunes available on Earth.


Posted by DJ Sean on Jul-25-2001 14:11:

Smoking ..umm..something

Well put Myrlin


Posted by trancedance on Jul-25-2001 14:12:

Confused

quote:
Originally posted by neo geo
hey trance and all dance music was made to be underground
so i dont care if i hear it on the radio or not



Agreed...but trance is becoming more and more popular. I worry about the day when (If) it will be played on radio stations as much as pop tunes. I actually prefer it to remain an underground thing.


Posted by Metabeing on Jul-25-2001 14:13:

All of us in the USA, watch out. Trance, progressive, tech house, etc....its all coming out of the underground. Give it time and it will be the new hip hop. JUst look at whats happening with movies and commercials. Swordfish, a new movie, has its entire soundtrack done by oakie and contains the above music. Planet of the Apes main theme is a trance remix by oakie. Commmercials are ripping trance tracks to play because of their "happy mood". Even MTV has falled to the trance monster. For their intros and outros to commercials where they do their little advertising spots ive been hearing big name trance like Heaven Scent, Cafe Del Mar, Cream, Gouryella just to name a few. At the club I spend most of my time at, the saturday resident (top 40) was just replaced by a, yep you guessed it, trance/progressive dj.

Meta


Posted by trancedance on Jul-25-2001 14:34:

Read This! Here comes Trance

quote:
Originally posted by Metabeing
All of us in the USA, watch out. Trance, progressive, tech house, etc....its all coming out of the underground. Give it time and it will be the new hip hop. JUst look at whats happening with movies and commercials. Swordfish, a new movie, has its entire soundtrack done by oakie and contains the above music. Planet of the Apes main theme is a trance remix by oakie. Commmercials are ripping trance tracks to play because of their "happy mood". Even MTV has falled to the trance monster. For their intros and outros to commercials where they do their little advertising spots ive been hearing big name trance like Heaven Scent, Cafe Del Mar, Cream, Gouryella just to name a few. At the club I spend most of my time at, the saturday resident (top 40) was just replaced by a, yep you guessed it, trance/progressive dj.

Meta


Right on the money...I noticed the Swordfish soundtrack was done by Oakie. And I've heard some background tunes for commercials that sounded so good I had to go searching for them on a file sharing program to see what the whole song sounded like.


Posted by flystyler on Jul-25-2001 14:56:

trance is bigger thna most think, i watched sommit on tv about raves in the US, they r huge. So it it more underground. Somebody should start up a few clubs they would rake it in


Posted by Metabeing on Jul-25-2001 15:31:

Some clubs are taking on the rave mentality in the US. In chicago there is a club called THe Mission that it a Rave Club. All trance progressive, etc music, no dress code. Ive seen angles, candy kids, people in full out holloween costumes...its awsome. Everything about it says rave...except for the bar. ANd that place is raking in the cash.

Meta


Posted by trancedance on Jul-25-2001 15:37:

Shame / Disagreement

quote:
Originally posted by Metabeing
Some clubs are taking on the rave mentality in the US. In chicago there is a club called THe Mission that it a Rave Club. All trance progressive, etc music, no dress code. Ive seen angles, candy kids, people in full out holloween costumes...its awsome. Everything about it says rave...except for the bar. ANd that place is raking in the cash.

Meta



Especially when they know most people in these trance/rave clubs drink a lot of water and they charge you $4 for a little bottle.


Posted by Metabeing on Jul-25-2001 15:47:

quote:
Originally posted by trancedance



Especially when they know most people in these trance/rave clubs drink a lot of water and they charge you $4 for a little bottle.


That pisses me off so much. Ive started just stashing an empty bottle in my pocket and filling it in the bath room.

Meta


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