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Posted by waXology on Dec-17-2003 09:39:

Job Hunting

So i finished my TAFE course a few weeks back, and am told about this entry level position for this IT company in the city.

so i apply, had my first interview today, was daunting never realyl had a proper job interview, anyway i wasnt ready for all the business type questions. like omg! some of the questions come out of left field and on a few occasions there was like 30 seconds of silence (me trying to think of an answer) i felt like a dumb shit hahahaha!!

so i leave the interview feeling like an idiot.

they said they would let me know in a few days..

2hrs later i get a phone call asking if i could come in for a second interview tomorrow arvo..... so im happy. yet packing it hahaha

it is after all an entry level position with no expierience needed. all training provided. so maybe im what they are looking for, young straight out of studies.

anyways thats my days story.


Posted by Psygnosis on Dec-17-2003 09:50:

If the same place told you to come for a 2nd interview then that pretty much confirms that you got the job .


Posted by waXology on Dec-17-2003 09:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis
If the same place told you to come for a 2nd interview then that pretty much confirms that you got the job .


nah! omg so weird my tafe mate on msn has his msn nam as "3rd round interview"

so im like oh wheres ur interview at...... and low and behold same place!!!!

hahaha going for same job... he has a 3rd interview tomorrow ive only got a second so im thinking he might get it.. casue its a start monday job i think they need someone asap!

he said it was up for one day on soulseek and got 160 applicants.. so my chances are slim to none haha!


Posted by escee on Dec-17-2003 09:58:

maybe in dj_psygnosis world, but in my world that means your better than 90% of all the other people who applied, now you have to beat the other 10.

congratulations on the second interview. what would you be doing if you got the job?


Posted by Master_Yoda on Dec-17-2003 10:00:

You never know what to expect after an interview. Just be mindful of the work they give you. You don't wont to be too keen and end up doing boring repetitive stuff, if that's what they want, that's when u being to dislike your job.

And usually u'll find that it's easier to get jobs doing the same stuff that u've done in a previous job. So if you hated your first job then u might get a bit stuck with your options.

I enjoy my job, but I find that i'm always working the oddest hours, they're never the same from week to week. And I'm always travelling, which is both good and bad.

Mabie I should try a desk job. At least u get to know the other ppl in your company, go out for drinks etc.

Meh, just my randon thaughts.

Oh, and I just got my NYE Tickets. Tiesto here I come!!!!!!


Posted by waXology on Dec-17-2003 10:03:

quote:
Originally posted by escee

congratulations on the second interview. what would you be doing if you got the job?




quote:
SYSTEMS MONITOR

We have an exciting new role available within our Operations department, directly reporting to the Operations Ream Leader.

As Systems Monitor your role is to use software tools to constantly monitor the performance of all aspects the company�s communications network. This function is critical to our service delivery and we will be relying on you to immediately report any technical problem.

Xpedite offers the right individual a competitive salary package, career development and a great environment to work in. Full training in all aspects of the role will be given, but it is assumed that you can demonstrate an active interest in IT technology.

Limited levels of shift work apply but all hours are between 7am and 8pm.

Key Responsibilities

v Monitoring performance of the live production system

v Identifying, resolving and/or escalating system performance bottlenecks

v Running scheduled system checks

v Creating monthly reports to support current SLA�s

v Assisting and contributing to all projects within operations

v Being technically minded with an eye for detail




thats it.

Xpedite Systems, Sussex St Sydney

"demonstrate an active interest in IT technology" - does using forums count?


Posted by Psygnosis on Dec-17-2003 10:08:

quote:
Originally posted by escee
maybe in dj_psygnosis world, but in my world that means your better than 90% of all the other people who applied, now you have to beat the other 10.


Yes, i love my world

But hey, at least they told you to come again, very good sign.


Posted by escee on Dec-17-2003 10:38:

that sounds like the sort of thing a computer program could do automatically.

as in, if you get the job, write it, use it, spend the rest of the time browsing forums. Just dont let them have it


Posted by eRRaTiK on Dec-17-2003 11:15:

the key to interviews is to be prepared for them. go search the net for behavioural/interview questions and run through some of them before the interview, and come up with some sort of idea as to how you might respond (with specific examples).

though you might not get the exact question during the interview, at least you would have gone through the mental preparation to handle those type of questions.

good luck!


Posted by waXology on Dec-17-2003 11:18:

quote:
Originally posted by escee
that sounds like the sort of thing a computer program could do automatically.

as in, if you get the job, write it, use it, spend the rest of the time browsing forums. Just dont let them have it


hehe good idea...

like im used to siting at home everyday browsing forums, so it will be hard to adapt to a non-hermitt life


Posted by waXology on Dec-17-2003 11:20:

quote:
Originally posted by eRRaTiK
the key to interviews is to be prepared for them. go search the net for behavioural/interview questions and run through some of them before the interview, and come up with some sort of idea as to how you might respond (with specific examples).

though you might not get the exact question during the interview, at least you would have gone through the mental preparation to handle those type of questions.

good luck!


yeah im doing that... but not to the extent of making up ansers, cause i dont want to make myself to be someone im not, but i know thats not what your saying...

being prepared, so ill do some study tonight....


Posted by [ groovypants ] on Dec-17-2003 11:47:

Good Luck on the interview Wax!
Make sure you are on top of things on the technical side too, usually [in more cases] the 2nd interview is where they hit you with the geeky stuff.
3rd interview is where they usually show you around the place and get more detailed with the company.

I've been to too many interviews a close one was when I applied for this Assistant Network Admin job, I went through all 3 interviews. Almost 200 people applied, then it got cut down to about 20 or something, and finally 5 people. I just missed out, blah if only those 4 people didnt show up hah.

Now, when you get this job, get me in too hehehe

I tried to crack into IT in late 2001 - early 2002, but the industry was seriously fux0r back then ... now instead, I'm stuck @ a retail sales job, selling mobile phones and other wireless gadgets and putting up with ignorant customers

Will give another crack @ it early 2004.

/end selfish rant


Posted by Paulie on Dec-17-2003 12:31:

At least you're getting to interview stage, and fucking up will only help you're cause. Ive been going 3 months trying to find full time work and not even an interview to show. So don't despair Cam, good luck for future interviews and you're bound to learn from you're mistakes.


Posted by escee on Dec-17-2003 13:16:

channel 10 news told me yesterday that 94% of uni graduates get a full time job within 4 months paulie.


Posted by Hyperdimension on Dec-17-2003 13:22:

Cam, I remember when I was in your shoes.

Confidence and a genuine-looking smile are important.
Sharp wit would be good too.

Hmmm actually these things will help with anything in life!

If you're not a smooth talker, then prepare and rehearse lines.
Write down the questions they may ask and write and memorise answers, or at least key words. You need to be able to speak the way they do - learn the terminology, the formal powerful corporate-speak, not street-talk or student-style slang.

My first job was as a technician in Optima getting $5/h while I was still at university attending night classes.

In my final year of university (2000) I went through the graduate recruitment program and got 6 interviews, and PricewaterhouseCoopers accepted me for a 2nd round, which was actually a whole day of 5 interviews. That was daunting, I think everything was examined, even behaviour during the lunch they provided. The interviewers were senior people, some important big-shots. There was no use getting nervous having come that far, so I had to brainwash myself to think of myself as superior and sharp and strong-minded, and to smile. i.e. feel and act confident. Yes, attitude has a lot to do with success, it's one of the first and most important things required. There were also tests of language, mathematics and abstract things (shapes, visual patterns, etc) i.e. like IQ tests. I did well in them. I had prepared beforehand as much as I could... I did some online IQ tests (http://www.queendom.com) though I don't think the actual IQ scores they give are accurate (135 is too high!).

A corporate IT career is not always as bright and rosy as one may think... but you may find that out when you're in and running on the hamster wheel. Anyway, everything is relative, and it's probably human nature to never be satisfied. Ironically, never being satisfied and wanting more is what can drive us to continue to succeed further. If you are completely satisfied, you will not grow.


Posted by Paulie on Dec-17-2003 13:23:

quote:
Originally posted by escee
channel 10 news told me yesterday that 94% of uni graduates get a full time job within 4 months paulie.



errr waiting... although i have one more subject to do to fully fully graduate. Either way channel 10 can go get fucked.


Posted by waXology on Dec-17-2003 14:19:

thank you all for the support...

ill be fine

im lucky enough that my best friend has worked with CISCO for 6 months and is strating with IBM Business Consulting in January. He is my age so he has drilled me on everything


Posted by webmeister on Dec-17-2003 22:30:

Good luck mate

I find job hunting a bit daunting, simply because I've never really done it before. I started at this company a few years ago during uni, and I'm where I am now by being promoted a few times, so I've never really had the need to go job hunting.

2nd interview is a good sign though.


Posted by tubby on Dec-18-2003 00:27:

keep in mind that interviewing is a skill like anything else, you need practice to get good at it. Your resume can be great, but if you interview badly you can miss out on jobs that you would be very good at. On the other hand I have one friend who sucks at every job he ever had, but interviewed really well. He lands a well paid job every 4-6 months, despite no qualifications, unless you count getting 15 or below TER, twice.


Posted by muli on Dec-18-2003 00:33:

congrats cam.

BUT! do you realise if you get the job..... YOU WILL BE WORKING WITH WADE HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

seriously, he works in the same place, i think he started in that job, he still works in Operations now.

I work in IVR operations, can get dead boring at times, but interesting at other times when you have issues to solve etc. things to program blah blah blah


Posted by Hyperdimension on Dec-18-2003 03:20:

quote:
Originally posted by waXology
im lucky enough that my best friend has worked with CISCO for 6 months and is strating with IBM Business Consulting in January. He is my age so he has drilled me on everything


What did he go through to get into IBM BCS?
I might see him around next year! He might even earn more than me too.
Why doesn't he stay with Cisco?
IBM BCS isn't as good as when it used to be PwC Consulting. e.g. Travelling consultants are now over $100 worse off than previously each week. That adds up over the months! I miss the classy Darling Park office too... it's just across the road from Home nightclub and cockle bay wharf... the office was really convenient for getting ready for a night out in the city, with nice showers and huge lockers. Now we are in a crappy St Leonards office.


Posted by Beemer on Dec-18-2003 03:33:

quote:
Originally posted by muli
BUT! do you realise if you get the job..... YOU WILL BE WORKING WITH WADE HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA


sif any amount of money would be worth puttin up with him every day

don't do it cam!!!


Posted by Sid on Dec-18-2003 05:08:

your life is officially over Cam, full time work is the end !lol nahh congrats hopefully all goes well for you


Posted by webmeister on Dec-18-2003 05:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Hyperdimension
Now we are in a crappy St Leonards office.


Don't be knocking my hood


Posted by misstrance on Dec-18-2003 06:39:

quote:
Originally posted by muli
BUT! do you realise if you get the job..... YOU WILL BE WORKING WITH WADE HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

hahaha i thought that company name looked familiar, then i remembered Wade worked in Sussex st and it all came back to me!

But yeah, best of luck with the interview Cam! I hope everything goes well for you


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