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Posted by Haunted on Dec-17-2003 21:48:

new william orbit mix by ferry

Ravels Pavane Pour Une Infante Defunte

amazing stuff

Posted by Floorfiller on Dec-17-2003 21:53:

this has been around for a long time...its also from 99...

Posted by Bernd_Gradish on Dec-17-2003 21:58:

New?

This was the follow up to barbers adagio for strings

Posted by Paula on Dec-17-2003 22:14:

sweet....just the thing i need....
I've actually played Ravel's Pavane tho with my orchestra....good stuff...

Posted by Pio on Dec-17-2003 22:33:

It's horrid and blasphemous, just like FC's remix of Barber's Adagio. It does not convey the intended emotions of the original masterpiece by Ravel by changing the whole meaning to some fluffy gouda vibe. Ferry should stick with the electro stuff and leave the classical remakes to the producers that have respect for the original works.

Posted by whiskers on Dec-17-2003 22:50:

ATB remix of adagio >>>>> ferry remix of adagio

Posted by [ groovypants ] on Dec-17-2003 23:35:

Impressionism and trance doesn't really mix in well with me. Although I absolutely adore Ferry's mix of Adagio, this follow up did'nt really do anything for me.
Maybe if Ferry made the remix darker and more bleak as the original was inteneded to be, he may have came up with something special, but those happy go go harmonies are so... hmmm... non appealing
The film clip is great though

Posted by TranceLuver4evr on Dec-17-2003 23:49:

quote:
Originally posted by whiskers
ATB remix of adagio >>>>> ferry remix of adagio

are u high? or are u serious?

Posted by RenderedDream on Dec-18-2003 00:09:

i like'em both..the adagio's mix is one of my favorite of all time..too bad 1999 is gone =(
now it's just crappy progressive all over

Posted by starglider on Dec-18-2003 00:12:

quote:
Originally posted by whiskers
ATB remix of adagio >>>>> ferry remix of adagio

Agreed. Ferry's remix of Adagio For Strings is the most overrated trance song in history. Although I do like his Ravel's Pavane remix better neither are anywhere near to his best remixes.

Posted by Snooper on Dec-18-2003 00:59:

Posted by Pio on Dec-18-2003 05:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Snooper
I totally disagree. Both of these mixes are high quality and works very well. I think the "emotions" are still there, even though the mixes differs a bit from the originals doesn't mean it's bad. Ferry's Adagio Remix is actually my all time favourite tune, and his Ravel's remix is also top stuff. But new? Not exactly........

I've hated both of FC's William Orbit remixes for how long now....4 years? I'm sorry, I knew and played the originals way before I even knew what electronic music was, and these remixes just don't do it for me. In my own personal opinion, he doesn't do these pieces justice. I'm not a blind Ferry Corsten hater, I love his Moonman and a lot of his older stuff, but this? Bleh. Ravel and fluff do not mix...

Posted by armandzadza on Dec-18-2003 05:08:

Posted by Sebraa on Dec-18-2003 12:35:

CLASSIC NOT NEW

It's so sad! Even in VIDEO there is funeral service and stuff ... so epic song!

Posted by Sebraa on Dec-18-2003 12:35:

CLASSIC NOT NEW

It's so sad! Even in VIDEO there is funeral service and stuff ... so epic song!

Posted by Ian on Dec-18-2003 12:45:

quote:
Originally posted by YaleTrance
It's horrid and blasphemous, just like FC's remix of Barber's Adagio. It does not convey the intended emotions of the original masterpiece by Ravel by changing the whole meaning to some fluffy gouda vibe. Ferry should stick with the electro stuff and leave the classical remakes to the producers that have respect for the original works.

And you wondered why I called you the biggest twat this year

Ferry made an amazing trance remix of this classic and also of ravels. It was well before he made a single electro-influenced track and unlike your friend Tijs, who after spending so long talking about not wanting to be known as just another Ferry Corsten, copied the one track most people will know him for. If you don't like it, maybe you shouldn't listen to trance at all. It's much better than traffic, nyana, rain on me, obsession, flight 643 and all the stuff you worship tijs for.

4 Years on, it's still being warmly remembered, but will all the tiesto productions that you believe in so much ? No. Sure you can try to tell me that just cos you've been to college in music that you know best, but all the people who do like the song can't be right can they ?

Posted by extepan on Dec-18-2003 15:37:

All of a sudden this thread becomes another fight club

Posted by Pio on Dec-18-2003 15:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian^
And you wondered why I called you the biggest twat this year

Ferry made an amazing trance remix of this classic and also of ravels. It was well before he made a single electro-influenced track and unlike your friend Tijs, who after spending so long talking about not wanting to be known as just another Ferry Corsten, copied the one track most people will know him for. If you don't like it, maybe you shouldn't listen to trance at all. It's much better than traffic, nyana, rain on me, obsession, flight 643 and all the stuff you worship tijs for.

4 Years on, it's still being warmly remembered, but will all the tiesto productions that you believe in so much ? No. Sure you can try to tell me that just cos you've been to college in music that you know best, but all the people who do like the song can't be right can they ?

haha, faulty logic at its best. are you saying that this silly remix of Ravel will be more "warmly remembered" than Sparkles, Theme from Norjefell, Suburban Train, Obsession, 643 etc.? dude,you've got to be kidding me if you really believe that. look at this thread, this track is so "warmly remembered" so many years after it was done that a lot of people didn't even have a clue that it existed. at least the Adagio remix made an impact on the scene, i know that, but the Ravel remix was a flop and you know it. In four years from today much less people are gonna know it exists while Traffic and Obsession will be hailed as classics.

I'm not blindly hating on anything FC and I'm not talking as a matter of fact, don't put words on my mouth. I have my taste and the right to be insulted by this fluffy stale epic shit as much as you have the right to diss anything Tiesto. I've never flamed you, but for some reason my OPINION offends you as much as direct insults from the Master or someone like that.

Posted by Ian on Dec-18-2003 16:06:

quote:
Originally posted by YaleTrance
haha, faulty logic at its best. are you saying that this silly remix of Ravel will be more "warmly remembered" than Sparkles, Theme from Norjefell, Suburban Train, Obsession, 643 etc.? dude,you've got to be kidding me if you really believe that. look at this thread, this track is so "warmly remembered" so many years after it was done that a lot of people didn't even have a clue that it existed. at least the Adagio remix made an impact on the scene, i know that, but the Ravel remix was a flop and you know it. In four years from today much less people are gonna know it exists while Traffic and Obsession will be hailed as classics.

I'm not blindly hating on anything FC and I'm not talking as a matter of fact, don't put words on my mouth. I have my taste and the right to be insulted by this fluffy stale epic shit as much as you have the right to diss anything Tiesto. I've never flamed you, but for some reason my OPINION offends you as much as direct insults from the Master or someone like that.

The Ravels remix was only not remembered as much due to it being released so soon after the Barbers Adagio one, which was so huge, it doesn't detract from the fact that it was still a class piece to true trance fans.

Sparkles is indeed brilliant & Norjefell also pretty good (aptness remix anyway) but obsession was poor & traffic is already getting annoying like atrc is to a lot of people. In my opinion ferry's best works included ones not as well known, like his remix of revelation & galaxia.

Maybe I do take it personal but when you diss ferry (every time i've seen you mention him it's been bad) then why shouldn't I stick up for a man who's produced a lot more great hits than tijs, so much so that Tijs admitted people used to refer to him as another 'ferry corsten'

Posted by Pio on Dec-18-2003 16:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian^
The Ravels remix was only not remembered as much due to it being released so soon after the Barbers Adagio one, which was so huge, it doesn't detract from the fact that it was still a class piece to true trance fans.

Sparkles is indeed brilliant & Norjefell also pretty good (aptness remix anyway) but obsession was poor & traffic is already getting annoying like atrc is to a lot of people. In my opinion ferry's best works included ones not as well known, like his remix of revelation & galaxia.

Maybe I do take it personal but when you diss ferry (every time i've seen you mention him it's been bad) then why shouldn't I stick up for a man who's produced a lot more great hits than tijs, so much so that Tijs admitted people used to refer to him as another 'ferry corsten'

It was a class piece to true trance fans? So you're telling me I'm a 'false' trance fan?

Obsession poor? hah, you hate anything that's slightly progressive don't you. Anyways, off topic. You're the one that brought Tiesto into this, I hadn't said a word about him. The fact is that I've hated these two remixes regardless of Tiesto's subsequent Adagio remix so many years later. I would've said the same thing 2 or 3 years ago. And also some of Tiesto's best works, just like Ferry, included ones not as well known, like all the old Stray Dog collaborations. But that's off topic.

I don't hate everything Ferry. I like Moonman more than any of his other aliases. And I even liked Punk! But I commit blasphemy as a 'false' trance fan because I didn't like the William Orbit remixes, or most of the stuff under System F for that matter. If that offends you well sorry, can't help it.

Posted by Ste on Dec-18-2003 17:53:

Re: new william orbit mix by ferry

quote:
Originally posted by Haunted
Ravels Pavane Pour Une Infante Defunte

amazing stuff

holy fuck, have i fallen through some worm hole and been warped back to 1999?

Posted by Ste on Dec-18-2003 17:55:

to be fair: ferry's mix of ravels is nice but was never a classic or masterpiece or anything.

flight 643 would easily be called more of a classic than it.

Posted by Stassi on Dec-18-2003 18:45:

quote:
Originally posted by YaleTrance
I've hated both of FC's William Orbit remixes for how long now....4 years? I'm sorry, I knew and played the originals way before I even knew what electronic music was, and these remixes just don't do it for me. In my own personal opinion, he doesn't do these pieces justice. I'm not a blind Ferry Corsten hater, I love his Moonman and a lot of his older stuff, but this? Bleh. Ravel and fluff do not mix...

thats too bad u cant enjoy a great song. (adagio that is)

Posted by Haak on Dec-18-2003 19:01:

Posted by AndskiSpeed on Dec-18-2003 21:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Haak
and the tiesto mix of barber's adagio is in a completely different league? right...

it depicts the mood that barber wanted it to! you should remember that by now :/

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