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saddam not caught?
someone posted this on usenet:
Saddam has been with the US intelligence services all along.
He agreed to be evacuated, just before the fall of Baghdad,
along with his family and close associates.
The deal was that he can go into exile on the surrendering of power
and therefore the avoidence of stiffer resistance in Baghdad,
resulting in much less US casualties.
The capture of the man in the hole is an event that simply never
happened. A bullshit fabricated PR stunt that anyone, even with
half a brain, can see through.
The Photo's?
These were taken months ago and shows Saddam with a false
grey beard and black wig. Note the absence of a picture of daily
newspaper that could of been show alongside the captive, that would
would prove the actual date. Note also the absence of grey hair on
the head, even at the roots (would a man on the run for his life
carry a bottle of of grecian 2000?). Note also the lenght of beard
and just wonder how long really it would take to grow this lenght
(possible much longer than 8 months). Note also the picture of the
clean shave Saddam and you will see thier is slight stubble growth.
Stubble growth on a clean shave man?
This is all an elaborate hoax that has been planned and implemented for
obvious reasons. You only have to ask yourself - who benefits from
this event? Say no more.
If I am right then this is how it will all play out:
There will be no trial. Saddam's death will be faked before this
happens. It will be reported that he has died of natural causes,
maybe a heart attack (well he is 66). His death will be verified
by a team of US surgeons who tries to save his life. But before
he dies he would of already revealed the vital evidence concerning
the mystery of the WMD. A tape recording will presented that exonerate
Bush and CO.
Bush will win his next election. And for his part in the deal
Saddam and Sons can now live happily ever after.
there always has to be a conspiracy theory.
yup, and I had sleepovers with Michael Jackson.
I noticed the story died a bit too quickly...like it was all over the news for about 2 -3 days, then it's back to regular life... a bit strange indeed. Can't exactly say why but I feel something's wrong too..
I also felt that the part on the news where this "seargent ?" asked that trooper for Saddams words a bit odd. (kind of acted)
It looked like it was the 99th take and they had only 100 changes to do it right.
I'm sorry what the fuck is that dude talking about?? Yeah, it was all pulled off in the face of pretty much the whole world right??? This is about as ridiculous as suggesting we never landed on the moon either... no, this is moreso.
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| Originally posted by N|te-L|fe I noticed the story died a bit too quickly...like it was all over the news for about 2 -3 days, then it's back to regular life... a bit strange indeed. Can't exactly say why but I feel something's wrong too.. |
Quite, otherwise it would sound like this:
Saddam just woke up. He scratches himself. Then he got up and walked to the can and took a whiz and ripped one. The guards got him some coffee and a donut. ....
you get the pictar 
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| Originally posted by daffodil well, you can't report the same story day after day. if no new information is being released, you can't write a new story. |
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| Originally posted by PhloTron Quite, otherwise it would sound like this: Saddam just woke up. He scratches himself. Then he got up and walked to the can and took a whiz and ripped one. The guards got him some coffee and a donut. .... you get the pictar |
The burden of proof lies on the poster, which has less than no credibility, citing not only an outlandish story, but also (apparently) posting anonymously.
In order for such a thing to transgress several things would have to occur which combined have about a chance of lightning striking someone twice.
(a.) total corruption of our government on many levels (all serving only one person.. president bush, yeah fucking right, everyone has their own agenda within our government, some people just follow under somebody else to gain other thing)
(b.) saddam's total cooperation (yeah right)
(c.) a level of trust between saddam hussein and whoever lined up the deal
(d.) the media somehow not getting word of this.
While some nuts out there would like to suggest this is easily possible, I would like to suggest they are pathetic, and possess the mind of an infant and have about the same resistance to suggestion. I mean, I hate bush just as much as the next level headed citizen of the world, but give me a break. It's too grand for him to conjure, and the risks are far too great for the rewards. On no level's is it logical, and I sincerely doubt it's even possible.
Look at watergate, it only takes a few people to bust open a "conspiracy", and that was chump shit compared to what this guy is suggesting.
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| Originally posted by SuperFarStucker The burden of proof lies on the poster, which has less than no credibility, citing not only an outlandish story, but also (apparently) posting anonymously. |
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| In order for such a thing to transgress several things would have to occur which combined have about a chance of lightning striking someone twice. (a.) total corruption of our government on many levels (all serving only one person.. president bush, yeah fucking right, everyone has their own agenda within our government, some people just follow under somebody else to gain other thing) (b.) saddam's total cooperation (yeah right) (c.) a level of trust between saddam hussein and whoever lined up the deal (d.) the media somehow not getting word of this. While some nuts out there would like to suggest this is easily possible, I would like to suggest they are pathetic, and possess the mind of an infant and have about the same resistance to suggestion. I mean, I hate bush just as much as the next level headed citizen of the world, but give me a break. It's too grand for him to conjure, and the risks are far too great for the rewards. On no level's is it logical, and I sincerely doubt it's even possible. Look at watergate, it only takes a few people to bust open a "conspiracy", and that was chump shit compared to what this guy is suggesting. |
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| Originally posted by SuperFarStucker The burden of proof lies on the poster, which has less than no credibility, citing not only an outlandish story, but also (apparently) posting anonymously. In order for such a thing to transgress several things would have to occur which combined have about a chance of lightning striking someone twice. (a.) total corruption of our government on many levels (all serving only one person.. president bush, yeah fucking right, everyone has their own agenda within our government, some people just follow under somebody else to gain other thing) (b.) saddam's total cooperation (yeah right) (c.) a level of trust between saddam hussein and whoever lined up the deal (d.) the media somehow not getting word of this. While some nuts out there would like to suggest this is easily possible, I would like to suggest they are pathetic, and possess the mind of an infant and have about the same resistance to suggestion. I mean, I hate bush just as much as the next level headed citizen of the world, but give me a break. It's too grand for him to conjure, and the risks are far too great for the rewards. On no level's is it logical, and I sincerely doubt it's even possible. Look at watergate, it only takes a few people to bust open a "conspiracy", and that was chump shit compared to what this guy is suggesting. |
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| Originally posted by djarecebo well as an american i can say (in response to your reasons) that: a) our entire government is corrupt and will do anything for money. any other country will not deny this. b and c) the US government was responsible for placing saddam into power in the first place, what says we couldnt take him out of power with his cooperation? d) 95% of everything the US press releases comes from the goverment or is filtered through our government, so they really have no opinion other than what our government tells them. (I.E. the US press didnt know about bush visiting Iraq when it was planned for weeks) I'm not saying it was all a setup, but your reasonings are not valid at all. |
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| Originally posted by SuperFarStucker Note: this is a flame Look, you're stupid, thanks. rebuttal a) corruption is a check within itself for corruption the quest for money undoubtedly includes uncovering corrupts political figures (think of all the money on books, bla bla, immunity from prosecution, all that jazz). Y b) The US government was indirectly responsible for placing him in power... c) Saddam Hussein has never proven himself trustworthy, he doublecrossed the US long ago, which is really why we became his enemy, not only in Kuwait, but also a pipeline deal a bit before that. d) Did you pull that number out of your ass? Oh yeah, you did. Wait, let me get my tinfoil hat. Nobody may speak out against our current government through the media, because the media is completely censored throughout the world by.. THE US!!!!! oh and surely all the "high up" people that work in the government and the media and the military are corrupt worthless pieces of shit right? GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK, wake up and smell the cocaine man.. it's a crack head theory that was likely thought up over a pot of boiling water and baking soda. If you're not saying it's setup, what are you saying? that the opportunity was there and everyone just said "nah, we'll bag the bastard later???" Not to mention we killed his two sons long ago, but let me guess, that was a setup too... a well-respected??? crackpot conspiracy theorist? |
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| Originally posted by SuperFarStucker Note: this is a flame Look, you're stupid, thanks. rebuttal a) corruption is a check within itself for corruption the quest for money undoubtedly includes uncovering corrupts political figures (think of all the money on books, bla bla, immunity from prosecution, all that jazz). Y b) The US government was indirectly responsible for placing him in power... c) Saddam Hussein has never proven himself trustworthy, he doublecrossed the US long ago, which is really why we became his enemy, not only in Kuwait, but also a pipeline deal a bit before that. d) Did you pull that number out of your ass? Oh yeah, you did. Wait, let me get my tinfoil hat. Nobody may speak out against our current government through the media, because the media is completely censored throughout the world by.. THE US!!!!! oh and surely all the "high up" people that work in the government and the media and the military are corrupt worthless pieces of shit right? GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK, wake up and smell the cocaine man.. it's a crack head theory that was likely thought up over a pot of boiling water and baking soda. If you're not saying it's setup, what are you saying? that the opportunity was there and everyone just said "nah, we'll bag the bastard later???" Not to mention we killed his two sons long ago, but let me guess, that was a setup too... Not to mention when was the last time you saw a daily newspaper used as a "verification" tool and it's not uncommon for someone to have irregular graying patterns. God, what is wrong with everyone? a well-respected??? crackpot conspiracy theorist? anyone who thinks this is even concievable should take the time to put me on their ignore list, and I would like to do so as well? You are far too stupid and wasting my valuable screen space, thank you... Ignoring me is for your own protection, your brain might melt when you realize the whole world isn't out to do bad and trick everyone. Vice Versa is also true and just to be safe you might want to ignore me if you believe that. |
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| Originally posted by SuperFarStucker Note: this is a flame Look, you're stupid, thanks. rebuttal a) corruption is a check within itself for corruption the quest for money undoubtedly includes uncovering corrupts political figures (think of all the money on books, bla bla, immunity from prosecution, all that jazz). Y b) The US government was indirectly responsible for placing him in power... c) Saddam Hussein has never proven himself trustworthy, he doublecrossed the US long ago, which is really why we became his enemy, not only in Kuwait, but also a pipeline deal a bit before that. d) Did you pull that number out of your ass? Oh yeah, you did. Wait, let me get my tinfoil hat. Nobody may speak out against our current government through the media, because the media is completely censored throughout the world by.. THE US!!!!! oh and surely all the "high up" people that work in the government and the media and the military are corrupt worthless pieces of shit right? GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK, wake up and smell the cocaine man.. it's a crack head theory that was likely thought up over a pot of boiling water and baking soda. If you're not saying it's setup, what are you saying? that the opportunity was there and everyone just said "nah, we'll bag the bastard later???" Not to mention we killed his two sons long ago, but let me guess, that was a setup too... Not to mention when was the last time you saw a daily newspaper used as a "verification" tool and it's not uncommon for someone to have irregular graying patterns. God, what is wrong with everyone? a well-respected??? crackpot conspiracy theorist? anyone who thinks this is even concievable should take the time to put me on their ignore list, and I would like to do so as well? You are far too stupid and wasting my valuable screen space, thank you... Ignoring me is for your own protection, your brain might melt when you realize the whole world isn't out to do bad and trick everyone. Vice Versa is also true and just to be safe you might want to ignore me if you believe that. |
oh and if you didnt know... 75% of all statistic are made up
I find it funny that when bush lies about the weapons of mass destruction bullshit, conspiracy theories were laughed at, but when something like this is even thought of as fake, people seem to pounce on it as crap.
Bush lied, people still trust, Saddam is caught, people will still listen to bushes lies.
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| Originally posted by Cyrus King I find it funny that when bush lies about the weapons of mass destruction bullshit, conspiracy theories were laughed at, but when something like this is even thought of as fake, people seem to pounce on it as crap. Bush lied, people still trust, Saddam is caught, people will still listen to bushes lies. |
well, in a matter of speaking, the less details, the more likely it is to actually be true, because when you want to make a fake story, you allways throw in lots of details, since that, in the eyes of the majority makes it seem more likely.
alltho i can very much agree on the whole part about sounding like an act with all the stuff going on, seeing as, it was obviously fabricated, because if you look on that clip that was released to the press, you notice there's a cut between the guy asking and the soldire answering, now after the cut (if this would have been filmed live) you would see the camera guy that filmed the guy asking in picture to the left of the guy answering, but of course he isnt there, he has switched place, wich in turn COULD (note caps) mean that it was a fabricated tape, alltho of course, this IS the best opportunity for them to propagate for themselves... so of course they take the opportunity to make it as "good" (slight sarcasm, yeah) as possible...
I'm all for conspiracy theory, but this one is a little odd, i could never see Saddam Hussein cooperating with the US even if they put him in power (the US has put many rightwing groups into power who have not later cooperated)
I think the whole issue of Iraq stinks with corruption though, this was never about Saddam Hussien, it was always about the vast quantity of money that will be squeezed from Iraq when it becomes a fully capitalist nation
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| Originally posted by Pheobius I'm all for conspiracy theory, but this one is a little odd, i could never see Saddam Hussein cooperating with the US even if they put him in power (the US has put many rightwing groups into power who have not later cooperated) |
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| I think the whole issue of Iraq stinks with corruption though, this was never about Saddam Hussien, it was always about the vast quantity of money that will be squeezed from Iraq when it becomes a fully capitalist nation |
Look, I hate Bush as "much" if not more than the next guy but that just doesn't change how ridiculous this is. There isn't even a significant advantage in waiting 8 months to capture him instead of just one. In fact, I'd suggest that it would be disadvantageous for them to wait longer as there would be a better chance of the truth getting out. Also, if this guy "knew" why did he wait until the media announced Saddam was captured to start spouting his shit? While it would be completely possible to say the exact same thing (minus the comments on the videos of his capture etc) before capture, it's always afterwards that crackheads suggest "oh it's a CONSPIRACY GUYS!" I'm not defending Bush, hell, I'm not defending America, I'm just putting stupidity in it's proper place. The most corrupt government in the world (China) would likely be able to pull this off without a hitch...
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| Originally posted by N|te-L|fe I noticed the story died a bit too quickly...like it was all over the news for about 2 -3 days, then it's back to regular life... a bit strange indeed. Can't exactly say why but I feel something's wrong too.. |
SuperFarStucker, wow. Your blind trust in the US is a tad scary, I hope their aren't 100 million more of you here......
Personally, this wouldn't suprise me at all, but, the point is moot because none of us will EVER know the truth. If you trust the US media with anything, you are a complete moron, end of story. Search the internet, find some truly free press, and enlighten your damn self.
The San Fransico Chronicle is one of the LAST remaining news publications that is "liberal." And even it isn't all that great. News feeds people the medicine they require to remain complacent, so that we can continue with our empire building. Two months after Bush's reelection, Syria and Saudi Arabia get a dose of US foot-in-ass. Pray that I'm wrong.
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