Court Rules RIAA Cannot Subpoena Internet Providers

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Posted by st0w on Dec-19-2003 18:23:

Court Rules RIAA Cannot Subpoena Internet Providers

Link to full story below, but here's the abstract:

A federal appeals court on Friday rejected efforts by the recording industry to compel the nation's Internet providers to identify subscribers accused of illegally distributing music online.

Story on USA Today

Posted by Vlad on Dec-19-2003 18:45:

Screw those biatches!

Posted by vadushka!!! on Dec-19-2003 20:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
Screw those biatches!

DOWNLOADING IS EVIL!!!

Posted by dj tek on Dec-19-2003 20:28:

fuck mp3s...

Posted by EnigmaT on Dec-19-2003 21:45:

HaHaHa

They probably put millions of dollars into these stupid lawsuits and did it all for nothing.

Posted by galdamez on Dec-19-2003 22:17:

Hurray for illegal downloading and screwing Metallica!

Posted by vadushka!!! on Dec-19-2003 23:10:

quote:
Originally posted by galdamez
Hurray for illegal downloading and screwing Metallica!

I hope your not serious.
You honestly believe that the artist who created that new track/album/mix comp that you recently downloaded doesn't deserve a penny?!?!? I could understand if someone wants to preview (via MP3, Real Player etc.) what they may be investing in but, if you dig it go out and purchase it.

Posted by Vlad on Dec-19-2003 23:15:

When it comes to trance music, most people dont really have much of a choice but to download the songs... most of the songs dont come out on CDs. As for me, being that Im a DJ, I do download songs, but I use them as a scouting tool and if I like the single I do buy in on record, Im sure as do other DJs.

Posted by galdamez on Dec-19-2003 23:22:

quote:
Originally posted by vadushka!!! You honestly believe that the artist who created that new track/album/mix comp that you recently downloaded doesn't deserve a penny?!?!?

Are you trying to start some sort of argument?

It's not like this topic hasn't been BEATEN INTO THE GROUND

Posted by AddictedTo1982 on Dec-20-2003 03:05:

Yeah I am with VLad and everyone else. If a album has one good song then why buy it and its not easy to find some trance albums. One example Ferry Corsten released a album in Japan this year, it cost 40 dollars cuase its an import and shipping cost
$22 now add this up 62 dollars ,no way I love Ferry but thats to much and thanks to Kazaa I have it now.

Peace Out and Holler back

Posted by Greedy on Dec-20-2003 03:11:

kazzaa is weak. . . i just 5 finger discount it at the store. i get all the extra shit too in the cd.

Posted by vadushka!!! on Dec-20-2003 03:38:

quote:
Originally posted by galdamez
Are you trying to start some sort of argument?

It's not like this topic hasn't been BEATEN INTO THE GROUND

Not trying to start an arguement, just feel that when an artist pours their soul into something he/she deserves to see some support from his/her fans.

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
When it comes to trance music, most people dont really have much of a choice but to download the songs... most of the songs dont come out on CDs. As for me, being that Im a DJ, I do download songs, but I use them as a scouting tool and if I like the single I do buy in on record, Im sure as do other DJs.

You'r right but, since when do you have to be a DJ to own a turntable.

Moral of the story is that these guys/gals that produce/provide the music that we all love will not be able to do so on the consistent basis they are now or not at all due to financial reasons.

R.I.P.
Hooj Choons
Strictly Rythym
Groovetech
Logic
etc.etc...

Posted by Greedy on Dec-20-2003 03:41:

those who learn to adapt with technology will survive.

those who cant, will die. Simple as that. We're not stuck in the 1900's anymore.

Posted by vtec junkie on Dec-20-2003 09:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Busy Child
those who learn to adapt with technology will survive.

those who cant, will die. Simple as that. We're not stuck in the 1900's anymore.

for rizzle

Posted by djeternal on Dec-21-2003 07:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Busy Child
those who learn to adapt with technology will survive.

those who cant, will die. Simple as that. We're not stuck in the 1900's anymore.

amen to that. i download songs im gonan buy anyway...and for the stuff that doesnt get released here...ummmm...yeah im gonna dl it...they dont consider us a market anyway.

Posted by galdamez on Dec-21-2003 08:50:

quote:
Moral of the story is that these guys/gals that produce/provide the music that we all love will not be able to do so on the consistent basis they are now or not at all due to financial reasons.

So with that logic do you believe used CD stores are also crooks? They are selling music but not giving the artists or record labels a single cent.

Also, how do you explain the "robbing artists" mentality when artists are dead, their careers are over or they are no longer on the same label? At this point who is losing out?

Lastly, how does all this fit in with the TranceAddict love for European releases? When you purchase that vinyl or CD, just who is winning? Sure, in some cases it's the record labels and producers, but what about when you're someone who wants to buy Ferry Corsten's album? Sure, you can dish out $62 to pay for all the importing fees, but do you honestly believe that Ferry will be $60 richer because of that purchase? It'd make more sense to rip the CD and send $5 to directly Ferry's mailbox. If we got 5,000 people to do that maybe we could see Ferry with some GOLD TEETH!!!

Don't get me wrong. I have probably purchased more music than you ever will in your lifetime. However, I definitely think there are some cases where downloading is more than justified. The only thing that has changed is the medium.

Back in the day, bootleg cassette tapes were the talk of the town. Today it's CD-Rs, DVD-Rs and MP3s. This issue is just OLD.

Posted by vadushka!!! on Dec-21-2003 21:41:

quote:
Originally posted by galdamez
Don't get me wrong. I have probably purchased more music than you ever will in your lifetime.

I highly doubt it my friend.

Who loses out?
R.I.P.
Throb
8-Ball Records

Posted by galdamez on Dec-21-2003 22:18:

quote:
I highly doubt it my friend

I don't.

quote:
Who loses out?
R.I.P.
Throb
8-Ball Records

What sort of proof do you have that these record labels disappeared because of MP3s? Did you ever consider it could've been due to poor management? Poor promotion? Supporting the wrong artists in the wrong market?

There are plenty of other labels that are surviving despite the existence of MP3 distribution. For the ones still around, why do you suppose that is? Maybe they are doing something right?

Posted by vadushka!!! on Dec-22-2003 00:31:

quote:
Originally posted by galdamez
I don't.

What sort of proof do you have that these record labels disappeared because of MP3s? Did you ever consider it could've been due to poor management? Poor promotion? Supporting the wrong artists in the wrong market?

There are plenty of other labels that are surviving despite the existence of MP3 distribution. For the ones still around, why do you suppose that is? Maybe they are doing something right?

You see, if you weren't so busy downloading you'd know these were record stores.

Posted by galdamez on Dec-22-2003 01:46:

quote:
Originally posted by vadushka!!!

You see, if you weren't so busy downloading you'd know these were record stores.

Well excuse me for buying my records directly from Europe. I don't shop in record stores. I shop online. Seeing as how you didn't answer any of my questions earlier, I take it any further discussion with you is pointless. By the way, there's now this thing called "pay-per-download" which millions are jumping on. If you weren't so busy pointing fingers perhaps you'd realize not all downloading is illegal.

And so what if I do download? I buy what I like and what is available. There's no shame in that.