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Warped Record!!... My Collection its Hurt!!.. HELP

Hi Guys, well.. im very very Sad. Last Night I spun on a club.. I enter to my Home at 6 O colck,.. and i was a little drunk and Tired.. I up my Record Box.. butI Left 10 records on the Car... then.. I waked up at 4 pm... and i just noticed that left some records there...
when i looked thems... all thems were Wraped!!... Im Dying now.. i fell very bad...

some of my record were my Favorites like Afterburn - Frattyboy l, Kamaya P. - Wasteland... Subtle By Design - Sirius... etc...

Im looking if theres a solution.. I have heard some histories about two glasess but i dont know... Please Guys.. I need your help here..

Later

Warped?

Yes.. My Bad.. Warped or Wraped.. dont remember

I don't understand???

You mean the sunlight melted them?? or something like that???

he warped them in the sun. i have never heard of a fix for that, can't imagine it would be something easily reversible. you are lucky it's only 10 records, just look online for the one you really miss and i am sure you could find them to buy again.

- musashi

Well.. yes.. Buying thems Agin will be the perfect Solution.. However I cant even Buy thems,... I cant used my Credir Cards ofr some economic problems in my country... oh.. and I dont know where i can buy Infernal Machine - Realistic and Afterburn - Frattyboy

there was a post a while back that detailed a method of placing the record between two pieces of glass and sticking it into a warm oven. Yo might as well try it, you have already lost the records to warping so you have nothing to lose.

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Originally posted by CraSHer[UK] Warped?

Aye,

Warped, as in bowl shaped due to exposure to heat or sunlight.

Hey Carlos, have you tried one of these? I must admit that I never have but it may work to play atleast one side of them. Avoid the glass in the oven thing at all costs unless you really know what you are doing. Potential for all sorts of accidents, not just to the records but to you and the oven.



Cheers
Nem

hey nem, what is that thing?
i myself have a couple of vinyl that could use a little fixin.

You basically put the record on the deck and then put this on the label bolting it onto the spindle. Providing the side you want to play is underneath the bowl (so to speak) it should sort it.
At least that's how I see it working.

As I said, I haven't ever used one but would be interested to hear from someone who has.

Cheers
Nem

hey...
so what is that thing called, and where could one get it? i've never seen anything like it...

you know, they should invent something to unwarp records. like two 12x12 plates that you put the record in between and you can tighten the plates..and you could plug it in and it could emit low heat..
that would be so great.

One of my special order tracks this week came to me a bit warped: OceanLab - Beautiful Together (Seraque Remix)

Fortunately the Seraque remix runs at 33rpm, 'cause the remix on the other side runs at 45rpm, and it's unplayable (tone arm has to move way too much).

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Originally posted by dknylady hey... so what is that thing called, and where could one get it? i've never seen anything like it... you know, they should invent something to unwarp records. like two 12x12 plates that you put the record in between and you can tighten the plates..and you could plug it in and it could emit low heat.. that would be so great.

I smell a science fair project a brewin.

hehe, It probabaly hasn't been done because people would ruin their records easily. It's dangerous to heat vinyl, at any temperature. So I am imagining people buying this purposed product then crying to the courts it ruined their vinyl even more.


So if we could get past this legal mumbojumbo then it would be a quality product...I am imagining a huge warning label on the top of it saying, "when you close this YOU are ruining your vinyl, do not use if you want your vinyl exposed to heat and to change its shape." but even then you'll still get sued.

great idea for a home project though.....time to find some toasters at teh pawn shop and rip em apart.

**edit** wow I think that toaster idea may have something to it......hhhmmmmmm***

hmmm
perhaps it doesn't even need heat. it can just distribute even pressure across the plates (which would have to have some kind of coating to not damage the vinyl) and you leave this on. i know from personal experience that time + pressure = less warped vinyl.

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Originally posted by dknylady hmmm perhaps it doesn't even need heat. it can just distribute even pressure across the plates (which would have to have some kind of coating to not damage the vinyl) and you leave this on. i know from personal experience that time + pressure = less warped vinyl.

I think a bit of heat would be necessary as well for forming purposes, but the pressure would need to remain in place while cooling down.

There are more than a few tracks (a.k.a. utter crap) I would be willing to "donate" to a good cause.

well
you arent ever going to get it properly flat again.

I had 5 records that had been in the boot of a friends car for 5 days this august (when it was mega hot (for the uk anyway) and they looked like crisps

TOTALLY unplayable.

Anyway, bit of heating with a hairdrier and bending with my hands- also using the platter to straighten it and they are playable.
Still ripples in them- but they play, thats the main thing.Ultra rare records- so i wasnt going to bin them

If they are bent anyway, you have nothing to lose

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Originally posted by Freak well you arent ever going to get it properly flat again. I had 5 records that had been in the boot of a friends car for 5 days this august (when it was mega hot (for the uk anyway) and they looked like crisps TOTALLY unplayable. Anyway, bit of heating with a hairdrier and bending with my hands- also using the platter to straighten it and they are playable. Still ripples in them- but they play, thats the main thing.Ultra rare records- so i wasnt going to bin them If they are bent anyway, you have nothing to lose

Wait, you left ultra rare records in the boot of a friends car for 5 days??? am I missing something here. hehe.


I think I am seriously going to try to make something. yes it will be utter crap, but if I could get two alluminum plate, 12", I think the hardest part is getting a material for the inside of the plates.

Something that will slightly, ever so slightly form to the record, but still keep its form in mild heat. HHHmmmmm, something that applies more heat to the center than to the outside. That would kill the cone shaped ones I always get.

To the drawing board.

Ok, Guys,.. Thanks for the replies.... I have read over the internet and I have some Good Info.. I think the Really one that could works will be the 2 Glasses one in a certain Temperature for certain time.

Well, I have bought a Pair of 2 glasses of emitted smoke Glass of 15 inch each one.... and another Pair of Crystal Glass... the Emitted Smoke ones are to reduce the Ultraviolets Rays, since ill do some experiments using the Sunlight, I also have bought a Termometer Stick to see the Glass Temperature... ill do a couple of experiments using some old Records that I dont care to loose.. all proves will be using sunlight, i could use an oven... but i prefer the sunlight.. but i could try with an oven later...

Ill firstly do with the emitted smoke glases... Ill put the Record between the 2 glaseses and put to the sunlight for certain time... ill be watching Temperature and Time.. and keep checking the record.. ill do proves with not too much Warped records and other with coplete unplyable warped records... i guess depending of the Warped Grade, the Time and Temperature could be more or less...

Of What i Have read then less temperature (Less Hot) less damage to the record.. i dont wanna screw the grooves or somethig...

Well, Thats all... Ill do the experiments next week... ill let u know what i get, so maybe we can make an Sticky thread for the ppl that have Warped Records... and Find a SOlution that fix or at least better the Record.

Later,
Carlos.

are you going to put any weight on them? seems like the heat would soften the vinyl but you would need pressure to hold it straight, then for it to cool down in that straight position.

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Originally posted by Boomer187 are you going to put any weight on them? seems like the heat would soften the vinyl but you would need pressure to hold it straight, then for it to cool down in that straight position.

Yes, I also guess should need little weight on it, but not too much... im also looking for a piece that be Circular like a Record, i dont wanna put some books on it or Uncircular Piece, well could be a book but must be a lot bigger than the Record, and must be Simetric Piece, i dont wanna Put more Weight in some parts of the record than others..

any suggestion is appreciate.
later

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Originally posted by CarlosM Yes, I also guess should need little weight on it, but not too much... im also looking for a piece that be Circular like a Record, i dont wanna put some books on it or Uncircular Piece, well could be a book but must be a lot bigger than the Record, and must be Simetric Piece, i dont wanna Put more Weight in some parts of the record than others.. any suggestion is appreciate. later

eh, only thing I can think of is to clamp the glass together. if set anything on top it will obstruct teh sunlight from warming it. and if are gonna clamp it the best thing for evenly distributed weight would be to drill a hole in the, stick a 1/4" all thread rod in it, and screw two nuts w/ washers on em.

or get a circular weight and place it in the middle of the record. then clamp the corners of the glass.

thats all I got.

Hey Fellas.. I FIXED WASTELAND!!

It was playable but couldnt cue with it... now i can cue and mix with it!

now ill try to fix some records that are unplayable... and see if i have luck...

I used two glaess the one uder just to have the plataform... and the upper one a very Heavy one... using the sunlight... ill try to post pics later..

so.. if u have a warped one.. if is not to bad u can fix it..

wow that's great..i cant' do that cuz it's below 0 here in NJ all the time...

anway, what kind of glass works best? it's hard to find 12x12 glass...so i am thinking of going to a thrift store and buying a few crappy pictures and taking out the frames...then putting it on top of the refrigerator with some books on top...

any advice about the glass?
and should anything be put between the glass and the vinyL?

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Originally posted by dknylady wow that's great..i cant' do that cuz it's below 0 here in NJ all the time... anway, what kind of glass works best? it's hard to find 12x12 glass...so i am thinking of going to a thrift store and buying a few crappy pictures and taking out the frames...then putting it on top of the refrigerator with some books on top... any advice about the glass? and should anything be put between the glass and the vinyL?

Yeah, i was thinking about the Sites where the sunlight its gone

About the glasses...well.. i boght a 12x12 glass since here its very easy to get one.. just a site where sells windows and stuffs like that,... i put that glass on the floor.. i normal Glass at least its very clean.. u dont want to stuck stuffs in your vinyl.. upon that glass ull put the vinyl.. the difficul part is the Glass upon the Vinyl.. it must be a vey heavy glass, i used one of 24 mm of thickness and very large.. like 1m 5 50cm... I dont boght this one.. it could be very expensive.. i just used since that glass its used like a table on the dinning room, to have a drink or so.. it will need a lot of weight.. u can put a normal glass upon the disc.. but ill need lot of pounds to fix the record ... and well.. still dont get ideas of how u can put a little hot the glass. the refrigerator top could work... try that... i left the record like 12 hours... from 8 am to 8 pm... from 11 am to 3 am... the sunlight here its very strong... i put it directly to the sunlight but i think it depends of the thickness of tha glass... since this one was of 24mm of thickness the sunlight its not directly on the record.. becouse directly to the record could melt the grooves i think.... well.. that was like an experiment ... now im doing another with a very very Warped record..

Ill let u know any ideas that i get...

Later... good luck

easiest way i've straightened a warped record, is to stack a shit load of other records on top (making sure the bottom is a flat surface). Come back in a month or so, voila.. no more flutter..

though i may try to add some heat after reading this thread

jW

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