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i bought a sony cd walkman that plays mp3 cds, on the lcd screen it doesn't display the full filename e.g. "Micheal Woods - Heaven Sen" which isn't even a long filename (michael woods - heaven sent.mp3 is full filename)

is it true that all mp3 cd players only show this length?
i asked the guy in one shop, he said yes because he wanted to sell me the sony one
in another shop they wouldn't take any cd players out of the packaging and they said "i think that one shows filenames"

so i'm asking anyone thats been hands on with a few (especially non-sony) mp3 cd players, is this true?


with the sony one i bought i hooked it up to my stereo through the earphone jack to RCA and the volume level on the stereo is poor
a more expensive model (sony again) has a lineout socket (another minijack socket) would this perhaps have a better volume on the stereo system?

i ask because shop assistants are stupid/liars and catalogues aren't detailed or consistent enough

thanks

Re: mp3 cd player

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Originally posted by vito i bought a sony cd walkman that plays mp3 cds, on the lcd screen it doesn't display the full filename e.g. "Micheal Woods - Heaven Sen" which isn't even a long filename (michael woods - heaven sent.mp3 is full filename) is it true that all mp3 cd players only show this length? i asked the guy in one shop, he said yes because he wanted to sell me the sony one in another shop they wouldn't take any cd players out of the packaging and they said "i think that one shows filenames" so i'm asking anyone thats been hands on with a few (especially non-sony) mp3 cd players, is this true?

I have a Sony D-CJ501 and the screen scrolls if the filename is longer than what fits the screen.

well, is it showing the FILENAME or the ID3 tag?


my iRiver SlimX shows up to 32 characters on the remote.

this screen also scrolls, but when it reaches a certain number of characters the name just ends and it starts scrolling from the start again


this model does not support id3, so it just shows the filename (which is what i want, i have a lot of mislabled id3s)
it has no remote, and 32 still isn't enough

cd filenames are limited to over 50 chars, so i named a lot of my files thinking i had that freedom, but now this player shows less than 30 chars, which means i wont see the dj name in a LOT of recordings i've made

The ISO limit on character length for a cd filename is 32 chars I believe.

If you can't see all the filename rename them and remove spaces and extra chars then you will see more.

But they will always stop at 32 chars I believe because that is the spec. My Alpine cd player in my car only shows 32 chars when it scrolls ID3 tags or filenames.

MrS

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Originally posted by MrSquirrel The ISO limit on character length for a cd filename is 32 chars I believe.

64 for data files.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery 64 for data files.

Only if joliet is supported.

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Originally posted by moncster Only if joliet is supported.

Ah yes, of course.

Re: mp3 cd player

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Originally posted by vito with the sony one i bought i hooked it up to my stereo through the earphone jack to RCA and the volume level on the stereo is poor a more expensive model (sony again) has a lineout socket (another minijack socket) would this perhaps have a better volume on the stereo system?

I have a Rio Volt mp3-cd player and I notice the volume doesn't go that high either...even on headphones as well, I turn it up to full volume and it sounds like what mid-volume on other cd players.

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Originally posted by tranceDJ I have a Rio Volt mp3-cd player and I notice the volume doesn't go that high either...even on headphones as well, I turn it up to full volume and it sounds like what mid-volume on other cd players.

yes, i noticed in the shop it wasn't very loud on the headphones provided, my personal cassette player sounds louder
he said its because mp3s have lower quality, i'm not so sure
i peak normalized these files to 0dB before burning so they should be loud, i dont see why quality should affect loudness, it should just sound less clear at the same volume


i guess i used joilet support for burning

also, renaming files means i have to reburn them, which would be about 40-50 cds

ok, today i tried out another cd player, different brand
it has a larger lcd display, show 3 more chars and importantly it plays through perfectly to my stereo
i was happy with it until i found it doesn't resume playback and i cant FF or RW within a track


does anyone know a review site for this sort of thing, i dont want to go back and forth buying every one available and returning it if it doesn't do the job properly

not being able to resume, FF or RW is a pretty big feature to ignore

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Originally posted by vito does anyone know a review site for this sort of thing, i dont want to go back and forth buying every one available and returning it if it doesn't do the job properly

cnet.com usually has good reviews on electronics.


or you can just google "*model* review" and it should come up with results.

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Originally posted by whiskers cnet.com usually has good reviews on electronics. or you can just google "*model* review" and it should come up with results.

i found a review of the second cd player on cnet:
"Cons: Lacks sufficient Amplifier Gain, (max volume of 25 is hardly comparable with other players), "

and i found this player to be louder than the sony, imo 25 is easily loud enough, the only time i'd put it at that volume is for a breakdown

thats why user reviews are crap, they're just opinions and can misinform and he didn't mention that you can't resume or search through a track

i tried the old google model+review search already, just got the odd dodgy user review there too
aren't there any professionals?
all they do is vaguely list the manufacturers specs, sometimes blatently incorrectly too, though sometimes the manufacturers have that on their websites too

oops, turned into a rant

I have a couple different types of Sony CD Walkmans in the $100 range - don't ask me the model, don't care to look them up. I use them while exercising. You can't crank the volume to earsplitting decibel levels, even though I would like that feature and be able to adjust downward from there. Some of the title tracks displayed depend on how you save your music. You can rename ID3 tags so they display properly, use Winamp. Best thing about the Sonys is the G-Force Protection - I've actually dropped the damn things and they never miss a beat. Try that with some others...
{{{smoke}}}

Sony DNE-710

The player itslef rocks because it shows tags and has folder use to seperate your silverblue tunes from tiesto and pvd tunes.

My quarrel with it is the audio burning software. 400 songs per cd sounds nice but lets says compressing to 64kbs(quality is not ruined unless your an audio savant) will take many many hours.

Will play nomal mp3 cds and have not tested the folder use to those yet.

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Originally posted by Trancealot Sony DNE-710 The player itslef rocks because it shows tags and has folder use to seperate your silverblue tunes from tiesto and pvd tunes. My quarrel with it is the audio burning software. 400 songs per cd sounds nice but lets says compressing to 64kbs(quality is not ruined unless your an audio savant) will take many many hours. Will play nomal mp3 cds and have not tested the folder use to those yet.

yeah, i listened to this one in a shop, atm the most likely one i'll get is the DEN715, same as the 710 but with inline remote (and ugly blue circle on the front )
have you ever hooked it up to your stereo? if the throughput is loud enough, i'm going to get this one


i just found out about this one though: sony portable dvd player (about $50 more than the sony with inline remote)
at some point i'm going to start burning my mp3s on dvds, i dont want my cd player to become as useless as my cassette player is now

anyone up-to-date on portable dvd players? i'd like one with the ability to play mp3s off cd-r and dvd+/- (dont care about movie playback). the above doesn't say if it plays dvd's mp3s

Funny thing you asked is I have been looking for my tape adapter because I have no cd player in the car. I found it and the sound is not diminshed. It will take one day getting used to but I suggest find a friend that has it and be amazed how nice it is. Then buy it. My friend got it for 50$(the floor model??)he said the last one they had at target but he loved it and then I loved it. So thats why I got it.

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