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Posted by Paco on Dec-22-2003 00:23:

Dear mark oliver

i just went to your so called "Classic Trance" nite. It's nice that you're trying to bring some fun old tracks back, the only problem is there was barely any classic trance at all. I even heard new house which is the complete opposite. Throwing out DaHool, and binary finary doesn't count for a whole trance nite.


Posted by Cyrus King on Dec-22-2003 00:58:

i was expecting to also gear communication and airwave...but i agree with paco... i wad expecting more trance anthems...


Posted by Muff2K on Dec-22-2003 01:07:

damn, and i was sitting at hoem last night regretting that i wasnt at guv...


i played my own classic trance set in my room anyways


Posted by Shaya007 on Dec-22-2003 01:20:

Question

The night was suppose to be a best of classics form the past Seven years, not necessarily a night of ONLY TRANCE music...Here's what's on the Guv website for the advertisement:

THE GIFT
Spin Saturday's Presents:
A Very Special Night of Guvernment Classics


Check out the pics on www.luvtheguv.com
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Posted by Skipper on Dec-22-2003 01:30:

That pic is cool, but does it ever hurt my eyes.


Posted by Shaya007 on Dec-22-2003 01:32:

Drunk hehe

Next time i'll do a black and white for ya!LOL!J/K


Posted by samhouse on Dec-22-2003 03:09:

exactly...im not sure where you guys got the idea that it was a classics "trance" night.....and btw what time did you leaev...cuz mark played about 65 percent trance last night and it was all amazing stuff.

Shaya great pic...are they up on luvtheguv?
they should be i guess


Posted by sooper on Dec-22-2003 04:27:

Gotta agree with Paco, MO was a big dissappointment last night.


Posted by dEsidEL on Dec-22-2003 05:36:

KarateKid



it's gotta be tuff being a DJ like Mark since u can never please everyone ..

i wanna appologize to him and everyone else here if they were a bit misled into thinking that he was gonna drop an exclusively trance set (which he didn't) based on the thread topic that i used. for anyone who's ever caught him at Viva will know that he drops some serious trance tunage in that place..

it's a little harder at Guv since you have a much more varied audience coming out to party..


Posted by monishb on Dec-22-2003 08:09:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL


it's gotta be tuff being a DJ like Mark since u can never please everyone ..

i wanna appologize to him and everyone else here if they were a bit misled into thinking that he was gonna drop an exclusively trance set (which he didn't) based on the thread topic that i used. for anyone who's ever caught him at Viva will know that he drops some serious trance tunage in that place..

it's a little harder at Guv since you have a much more varied audience coming out to party..



I have to agree with emery.

Mark dont worry , i am no critic on music, as long as it sounds good i am up for it!!

DAMN CRICICS!!!

I wasnt there for this night but i had enough through out the summer and some weekends of winter, but what can i say its hard to please such a huge crowd.!!

I have to totally respect you mark , you leave a trademark signature when you play at diffrent clubs, like when i heard you so many times at VIVA- You played some really hard trance and at Guvernment i heard a combo of House/Trance & Progressive.

But regardless you are torontos, hottest nightclub DJ. I think you blow of richmond st partiers in a split second, which none realise if they saw you play.

I fell in love with guvernment ever since i went there the first time.The summers are absoulotly wicked!!


Posted by oliver on Dec-22-2003 08:52:

sorry

I'm sorry some of you (Paco, sooper & Cyrus King) didn't have a good time.

After playing for over 7 years at Guv't every Saturday (except 4), I think I have a good grasp of what the classic anthems are. I really could have played for 24 hours to fit everything in, but unfortunately only had 8.5 in which to do so.

A common misconception about my "classics" is that they are all trance songs when, in actual fact, house music has been the genre most played over the years at Guv't.

Playing 65% trance (you're a maths whiz, samhouse) at "The Gift" surely upset all the house heads. Trance was represented far more than any other genre I've played over the years (for example, I only played one breaks track). Most of the weekly regulars are the most open-minded clubbers I've encountered and it's really tricky to mix various styles without sacrificing flow. This night was geared towards those who have supported the night on an almost weekly basis for the past 7+ years, not those who merely come out when a guest DJ drops in.

I alienated most of the house heads, but figured many of them would have been in Kool Haus for the Industry reunion. If that event had not taken place, "The Gift" set would have included much less trance and I wonder how many complaints that would have generated.

As far as playing some newer tracks goes, who is to say that something has to be old to be considered classic? Please don't shoot me for playing 9 tracks from 2003 in an 8.5 hour set. Consider those who are home or visiting for the holidays and just popped in to check out the club without realising that it was a night of classics. They'll probably complain that I'm still playing tracks from my Timeless Trance CD circa 1999.

I love all kinds of music and play a fresh variety each week. This is what has defined and shaped Spin Saturdays. "The Gift" was intended as just that: the club's holiday gift to all those who have helped in making it a top weekly night out. CONTINUED>>>>>>>


Posted by oliver on Dec-22-2003 09:00:

cont'd

Without these regulars, we would have no night at which to host international guest DJs.

Don't look a "gift" horse in the mouth!

Mark

P.S. A night devoted to classics would never be complete without "Communication", the theme song from the Guv't website. I saved the best for last.


Posted by Tordan on Dec-22-2003 09:07:

Mark, I'd just like to say that you have delivered time and time again no matter what club you are spinning at. There have been times when the headliner really disappointed us but you came on after and blew the roof off and sent us home with big smiles on our faces. Keep up the good work buddy!!

I wasn't able to make it to this event but from the guv website and flyers I gathered this was a Guv classics event not just trance classics. I wish you had paid more attention to details Paco.


Posted by oliver on Dec-22-2003 09:17:

...

No need to apologise, dEsidEL! Not your fault mate. I think there was a communication (pardon the pun) gap.

samhouse, maxtuh, shaya & Tordan: cheers for your constant support!

Mark


Posted by hardcore trancer on Dec-22-2003 09:27:

Toronto without Mark Oliver just isnt the same.Mark you truly are a gift and inspiration for this city,me and many others have alot of respect for you and for what you have done for the scene.last night really reminded me of Meow,I just have alot of great memories from that place!!

once again thank you!!

Cheers


Posted by Swamper on Dec-22-2003 09:47:

You can't please everyone all the time...

If it wasn't for Mark and the music he plays this site would never have been created... I can't even put into words the number of good times my friends & I had at guvernment (and later at Meow) in 1998/1999/2000... We took it for granted - and you know what - looking back we always had an amazing time.

I still remember 1998 and Brooklyn Bounce - Get Ready to Bounce being played in the main room on a Saturday when it was practically empty.. Hilarious.

I'm pissed that I missed Communication - but I was happy to hear Sarah Mclachlan - Silence - I hadn't heard that at Guv since January 2000. While everyone can preach about being all about House/Progressive/Techno we all know that deep down when Trance is played people enjoy it - it's just that they're too scared to admit to it because it's somehow linked to being 'new to the scene'.

You have no idea how many house head friends of mine go to Trance parties and have a great time but are quick to forget the genre that was played - sad really - but that's what conformity does to you.


Posted by Dopey on Dec-22-2003 09:56:

Re: ...

quote:
Originally posted by oliver
No need to apologise, dEsidEL! Not your fault mate. I think there was a communication (pardon the pun) gap.

samhouse, maxtuh & Tordan: cheers for your constant support!

Mark


Mark,

i didn't know you posted on these boards, i just started so I guess it's all new to me...

i have a question though.

I've been to the guv quite a few times over the years considering i have to take a 4 hour train or a flight to get there...

however, the only times I have been amazed at your performance was when you were opening up for international guests (many of them you outdid completely by the way). I've seen you enough to consider this less of a coincidense and more of a habit. do you notice this as well? or do you do it subconsciously? I understand this question is quite rude and you will prolly not answer or answer with some smart ass remark, but it really does interest me. just keep in mind that i have nothing but respect for your spinning and have seen you perform MUCH better than armin, ferry and the gang (I'm not certain if that sounds like a compliment though lol its meant to be). also, i'm sure the answer is quite lengthy and you might not want to type it our or post an answer on these boards, you can Private Message me as well if you wish. if you do find some spare time I would love to know what your thoughts are.

thanks,
the dopemiyster


Posted by oliver on Dec-22-2003 10:18:

thanks

Once again, thanks hardcore trancer & Swamper!

Trance being linked with people new to the scene is something I just read this week (see Benjamin Boles' NOW review of Marco V's latest CD) and it really confuses me since my friends and I were "trance dancing" back in 1988 (that's '88, not '98). In many ways, trance is a pioneering sound and a very crucial component to our scene. Without trance, many of today's sub-genres that the "in crowd' seems to favour would not exist. I just don't get it. Do Rock 'n Roll lovers not pay homage to their Rhythm & Blues roots?

I've been collecting and playing trance since the late'80s. I would hardly say that I am "new to the scene". Some of these ignorant know-it-alls should spend less time dictating what's hip to listen to and more time on the dancefloor.

http://www.nowtoronto.com/issues/cu...sic_discs12.php


Posted by oliver on Dec-22-2003 10:49:

Re: Re: ...

quote:
Originally posted by Dopey




the only times I have been amazed at your performance was when you were opening up for international guests (many of them you outdid completely by the way). I've seen you enough to consider this less of a coincidense and more of a habit. do you notice this as well? or do you do it subconsciously?
the dopemiyster


I find the crowd very different on nights when a big-name guest is in town. There is usually much more excitement in the air than when I play solo. Since I feed off the energy of the crowd, it's a lot easier to help people have a great night because they are already half way there.

Also, playing shorter opening and closing sets are much different from playing marathon sets. An average 3 hour short set usually has more of an impact on people, whereas very few people pay undivided attention to a longer (say 9 hour) set.

I've never watched an Olympic marathon runner for his whole race even though he may outshine his competition and take gold, but I've watched many sprinters entire races where they end up with no medal at all.

This isn't to say that DJing is a competition to me. Everyone has their own taste and style. If I'm sharing the bill with another DJ, I try to compliment his/her style with the dancers in mind above attempting to upstage that particular DJ.

If you have an endless supply of your favourite food and eat it every day, you may not realise how much you really love it until you eat something else one day. Some food for thought?

Mark


Posted by Rocco on Dec-22-2003 15:35:

Re: Re: Re: ...

quote:
Originally posted by oliver
Some food for thought?


damn it.. now i'm hungry

I have to say that I am very ashamed of myself. I've never been to the guv nor have i ever heared a Mark Oliver set.

Guys, where have i gone wrong?
But from all the people that talk about MarkO, sounds like a pretty damn good DJ. Keep up all the good works Mark. Alotta people really respect that. Myself included.


Posted by mute79 on Dec-22-2003 16:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
I'm pissed that I missed Communication - but I was happy to hear Sarah Mclachlan - Silence - I hadn't heard that at Guv since January 2000. While everyone can preach about being all about House/Progressive/Techno we all know that deep down when Trance is played people enjoy it - it's just that they're too scared to admit to it because it's somehow linked to being 'new to the scene'.

You have no idea how many house head friends of mine go to Trance parties and have a great time but are quick to forget the genre that was played - sad really - but that's what confirmity does to you.


That's a pretty bold statement to make, denouncing people's taste in music like that... anyways, I'd really like to hear more about these conformity issues you refer to...


Posted by infinity HiGH on Dec-22-2003 16:51:

I had a fuckin great time. There were a few tunes that I was expecting to hear (Airwave, Flaming June, etc) but oh well; hearing Protect Your Mind, Meet Her At The Love Parade and Xpander; which I totally didn't expect was great. It was an awesome night and I think it was very well varied with different genre's.

Thanks Mark


Posted by malek on Dec-22-2003 17:23:

Mark Oliver isn't the only resident dj that seems to play better when opening for guest djs and even outdo them...


Posted by TrueToTheCrew on Dec-22-2003 17:51:

MARK YOU FUCKEN RULE!!!!!!!!!!!

As soon as i walked in there I had a smile from ear to ear.
Dont worry about these people crying about tracks you didnt play.
If anyone has seen marks collection of Vinyl and imagine his archived stash, I think its pretty good that he brought the amount he did.

You pretty much summed up 7 years of guv with your set. I thought the tracks you played from 2003 were a good touch allowing us to see the evolution of trance in guv.

From time to time people are bashing MO's sets. Every week mark plays a diverse set keeping it fresh for us. Check him out at other venues and you'll hear a completely different set from what your use to at guv displaying his talents through different genres pleasing different crowds.

Put it in this prespective. What if Toronto didnt have Mark Oliver?!?!?! Makes you think eh??
(would hate to see Dr. Trance on the decks at guv every week!! LOL)



Highlights of the night.
Xpander,Protect your Mind, Someone to hold,Communication, baby elephant track etc. etc.... Every track brought back a memory.


Nick


Posted by Pett on Dec-22-2003 18:39:

Smiley DJ Way to Go mark

Yes mark.
Your amazing, i dont even like tribal but that one tribal track u played with the techno sound in it........... man i think your a genious when your behind the decks, your timing of downtempo tracks to give us a rest and the following bulidup. I can sense when your builing up to your trance set (sometimes im fooled) but u keep me moving every time i visit the guv.

- Signed, One of the voices lost on saturday night trying to yell from the back of the club (the phazons real sweet spot)

-Send my thanks to the lighting guy, your appretiated too!

I know your busy buying vinyl and getting ready for your next gig (man what a life) but can you id that tribal track for me?


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